DATE CHANGE:Prison Bowl I @ Hunter Coll HS, NY, NY (1/19/08)
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DATE CHANGE:Prison Bowl I @ Hunter Coll HS, NY, NY (1/19/08)
Hunter (known to its students as the Brick Prison, so don't be scared off by the name) will be holding its first annual (hopefully) tournament on January 19, 2008. The location is right in the middle of Manhattan, so it's a good opportunity who'd like to check out the city in addition to quizzin' the bowl.
The tournament format will be a modified ACF format. Simply put, that means there will be 20 tossups, and each correct tossup will earn a team the chance to answer bonus questions. Each tossup will be worth 10 points, and 15 if gotten sufficiently early (aka "powers"). If a team buzzes in before the question is totally read and incorrectly answers, they will lose 5 points. Each bonus will be worth a total 30 points, and will be non-rebounding. The questions are being cowritten by the North Kansas City HS and Hunter College HS teams. The co-editors are Charlie Dees and I. The questions are adhering to solid ACF principles of writing and Jerry Vinokurov's awesome guide.
The prelims will be swiss paired, and the playoffs will be done in a way such that anyone who loses in the first round will get to play other games, either double elimination or some round-robin setup, we'll have to see. In either case, we shall be taking advantage of the school's networking and Smartboard setup, so expect much less latency and human error than usually occurs, to the best of our abilities.
Dr. Chuck approving, this will hopefully be a PACE qualifier.
Pricing system is as follows:
$70 for a school's first team, $60 for other teams thereafter
-$10 for buzzers
-$10 for travelling >200 miles (as determined by Google Maps)
The cap will probably be around 40 teams, but we'll have a more exact number when/if we approach that number.
--Guy Tabachnick
The tournament format will be a modified ACF format. Simply put, that means there will be 20 tossups, and each correct tossup will earn a team the chance to answer bonus questions. Each tossup will be worth 10 points, and 15 if gotten sufficiently early (aka "powers"). If a team buzzes in before the question is totally read and incorrectly answers, they will lose 5 points. Each bonus will be worth a total 30 points, and will be non-rebounding. The questions are being cowritten by the North Kansas City HS and Hunter College HS teams. The co-editors are Charlie Dees and I. The questions are adhering to solid ACF principles of writing and Jerry Vinokurov's awesome guide.
The prelims will be swiss paired, and the playoffs will be done in a way such that anyone who loses in the first round will get to play other games, either double elimination or some round-robin setup, we'll have to see. In either case, we shall be taking advantage of the school's networking and Smartboard setup, so expect much less latency and human error than usually occurs, to the best of our abilities.
Dr. Chuck approving, this will hopefully be a PACE qualifier.
Pricing system is as follows:
$70 for a school's first team, $60 for other teams thereafter
-$10 for buzzers
-$10 for travelling >200 miles (as determined by Google Maps)
The cap will probably be around 40 teams, but we'll have a more exact number when/if we approach that number.
--Guy Tabachnick
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Pardon me for being sarcastic, but you're holding your tournament on a Monday?
EDIT: I just noticed that the title date and date listed are different...
EDIT: I just noticed that the title date and date listed are different...
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Pricing structure has been edited into the top post. Thanks, and I hope to see you there! Email me if you have further questions.Devon13 wrote:Barring some unforseen circumstances, Ward Melville High School would like to bring (at least) 1 team this January.
What will be the costs associated with the tournament?
Thanks, and we look forward to attending.
Event posted on Facebook
Hello, everyone!
I just posted the event on facebook: http://hs.facebook.com/event.php?eid=6695073195
I just posted the event on facebook: http://hs.facebook.com/event.php?eid=6695073195
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In all likelihood, we'll be there. How can I (we) get from Penn Station to HCHS. I think you guys are closest to the 96th street Station on the Green line?metsfan001 wrote:Pricing structure has been edited into the top post. Thanks, and I hope to see you there! Email me if you have further questions.Devon13 wrote:Barring some unforseen circumstances, Ward Melville High School would like to bring (at least) 1 team this January.
What will be the costs associated with the tournament?
Thanks, and we look forward to attending.
Thanks,
Devon
You would have to get off at the 96th Street station for the 6 train. Detailed directions here: http://www.hopstop.com/?action=route_pr ... agv5hqkhg7Devon13 wrote: How can I (we) get from Penn Station to HCHS. I think you guys are closest to the 96th street Station on the Green line?
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RM is more likely to come on 1/26. I wouldn't be able to come on the 19th, personally, and I'm not sure that we would send a team.We're considering moving this up a week because 1/26 is an SAT date.
Either way, New York is three and a half hours away, so don't plan the tournament around our attendance.
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When you make the official entry forms and release the rules and information, email it to [email protected] please?
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So we have decided to move the tournament up a week after all and, pending administrative approval, we'll be advertising it through various internets. Email me at [email protected] to register or if you have questions.
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* Bergen County × 4Siow52 wrote:Any chances of a field update?
* Colonia × 2
* Gonzaga
* Half Hollow Hills West × 2 (still awaiting confirmation . . .)
* St. Peter's × 2
* Stuyvesant × 5
* Trinity
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The check can be made out to Hunter College High School; I'll send out an email with Subway, etc. directions to all teams tomorrow.
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Yeah, that link is correct.
Thanks everyone for coming, and for bearing with us when things got rough, although I'd like to think that things picked up more later in the day, and that the questions were good.
I'll provide more detailed stuff tomorrow, assuming I can find the playoff scores (I think I have most of them somewhere). That link is just prelim stats.
Thanks everyone for coming, and for bearing with us when things got rough, although I'd like to think that things picked up more later in the day, and that the questions were good.
I'll provide more detailed stuff tomorrow, assuming I can find the playoff scores (I think I have most of them somewhere). That link is just prelim stats.
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Danny Zhu of Stuyvesant A also got the "There is no shame, only points" certificate by getting the tossup on Jinx. =)
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Wait, is that this Watson Ladd?aarcoh wrote: 3. watson ladd-bergen a
biggest negger-watson ladd, bergen a
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Whoops, yeah, I forgot to email you back about that.BuzzerZen wrote:I'd like to thank Guy for being Taft's first paying customer. (Now just $25 per tournament!)
It worked like a dream, making it really easy to compile and look at the stats. A++ would buy from again.
Also: if you could somehow make it do Swiss pairing, it would make things just that much easier. If not maybe I could get my tech people to work no a localized program for next year, because saving that five minutes would save some chance for things to go wrong. Other than that, awesome.
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The fact that he got 17 negs in a five-round tournament doesn't bode well for his survival then (extending this to a 10-round prelim like NAQT nationals, he'll have 34 negs!)aarcoh wrote:watson had 15 negs at nationals in 2007
if he attempts to have the most negs at nationals this year he'll be coming home in a body bag
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Here's what I have. I may be able to get some more of the scores, but at least all the rankings are here.
QUARTERFINALS
(1) Stuy A def. (8) Bergen C 480-80
(2) Gonzaga def. Bergen B (7)
(3) Bergen A def. HHHW B (6)
(5) HHHW A def. (4) Trinity A 310-150 (?)
SEMIFINALS
(1) Stuy A def. (5) HHHW A 440-125
(2) Gonzaga def. (3) Bergen A
THIRD PLACE GAME
(3) Bergen A def. (5) HHHW A
FINALS
(1) Stuy A def. (2) Gonzaga 550-115
QUARTERFINALS
(1) Stuy A def. (8) Bergen C 480-80
(2) Gonzaga def. Bergen B (7)
(3) Bergen A def. HHHW B (6)
(5) HHHW A def. (4) Trinity A 310-150 (?)
SEMIFINALS
(1) Stuy A def. (5) HHHW A 440-125
(2) Gonzaga def. (3) Bergen A
THIRD PLACE GAME
(3) Bergen A def. (5) HHHW A
FINALS
(1) Stuy A def. (2) Gonzaga 550-115
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i think we lost to gonzaga 440-150 or something (mainly due to six straight negs from watson and i....it was painful)
we beat hhw a 450 115 or something like that (mainly due to watson alone having 145 points on tossups...it was painful, but only for the other team )
i think we lost to gonzaga 440-150 or something (mainly due to six straight negs from watson and i....it was painful)
we beat hhw a 450 115 or something like that (mainly due to watson alone having 145 points on tossups...it was painful, but only for the other team )
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