CANCELLED: BATE (Bloomfield Academic Tournament) NJ
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CANCELLED: BATE (Bloomfield Academic Tournament) NJ
Our in house tournament, BATE (Bloomfield Academic Tournament of Excellence) is scheduled at the moment for February 9th, 2008, but the date is tentative. Question format and definite date to be set this week. Tournament is at Bloomfield High School in Bloomfield, NJ. No team cap set yet.
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Chances of NAQT questions or making our own pyramidal questions are about 40%. Not entirely sure if the rest of the team is ready to make a tournament like it.dyetman89 wrote:Assuming the questions are [something not or "Jeopardy!"] expect 3-4 Stuyvesant teams to show up.
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I'll try if I can but it looks like we'll more than likely do Jeopardy for the Prelims. However, pyramidal style buzzer questions will be used in the playoffs (We're doing Jeopardy mostly due to buzzer constraints)STPickrell wrote:If you can't get NAQT questions, I would be happy to talk about providing relatively pyramidal questions. (Fred or whoever, feel free to remove this post and place it in the outer darkness.)
Our registration and invites will be sent out after HHHW competition this Saturday. The most likely date at this time is Feb. 16th.
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Yeah... If it's on the 16th, I would need to leave at about 4:30 PM to catch a flight out of Laguardia to go college looking, but the rest of my team could probably stay for the end of the tournament... but the 9th is free for me and at least 1 other member that I know, haven't checked with the rest. Please e-mail me a registration form at [email protected] when you get them up, as it is unlikely that you would mail them out to my school, and even if you did they probably wouldn't get down to me or the others that may actually go.
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you can email me registration at [email protected]
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The Fifteenth Annual
B.A.T.E
Bloomfield Academic Tournament of Excellence
At Bloomfield High School
February 9th, 2008
Dear Academic Team Coach
The Bloomfield Academic Team is pleased to invite you to compete in the fifteenth annual Bloomfield Academic Tournament of Excellence. Tournament registration will begin at 8:00am with matches starting approximately at 9:00am. The tournament is scheduled to conclude at approximately 6:00pm.
Each team will have four players playing at a time. Alternates are welcome. Five Rounds (including one bye) are guaranteed for each team. The preliminary rounds will be in jeopardy format. After the conclusion of the preliminary rounds, the top eight teams will be chosen by total cumulative points. These eight will continue on to the playoff rounds which will be single elimination. This round will be in the NAQT buzzer format. Trophies will be awarded to all eight teams that make it to the playoff rounds. The championship team will receive a $200 prize.
Complimentary bagels and juice will be served in the Bloomfield High School cafeteria between 8:00 and 8:30am. There will be a break for lunch part way through the preliminary rounds, lasting for approximately one hour, with the conclusion of the preliminary rounds after lunch. No lunch services will be provided for the teams at BHS, but a list of local eateries will be distributed.
The registration fee for the tournament is once again $80.00 for each school’s first team and $50.00 for each additional team. We will consider our competition full when forty teams have registered.
The Fifteenth Annual
B.A.T.E
Bloomfield Academic Tournament of Excellence
At Bloomfield High School
February 9th, 2008
REGISTRATION FORM
SCHOOL NAME: _______________________________________________________
ADDRESS: _____________________________________________________________
CITY: _______________________ STATE: ___________ ZIP CODE: ____________
SCHOOL PHONE: _______________________ EMAIL: _______________________
NAME OF ADVISOR(S): _________________________________________________
ADVISOR’S HOME PHONE #: ___________________________________________
REGISTRATION FEE: $80.00
ADDITIONAL TEAMS: ____________________X $50.00 $_________________
TOTAL AMOUNT ENCLOSED $_________________
PLEASE RETURN THIS NO LATER THAN FEBRUARY 5TH, 2008
CHECKS MADE PAYABLE TO: BHS ACADEMIC TOURNAMENT
MAIL TO: Bloomfield High School
Academic Team c/o Kate Putnoky
160 Broad St.
Bloomfield, NJ 07003
B.A.T.E
Bloomfield Academic Tournament of Excellence
At Bloomfield High School
February 9th, 2008
Dear Academic Team Coach
The Bloomfield Academic Team is pleased to invite you to compete in the fifteenth annual Bloomfield Academic Tournament of Excellence. Tournament registration will begin at 8:00am with matches starting approximately at 9:00am. The tournament is scheduled to conclude at approximately 6:00pm.
Each team will have four players playing at a time. Alternates are welcome. Five Rounds (including one bye) are guaranteed for each team. The preliminary rounds will be in jeopardy format. After the conclusion of the preliminary rounds, the top eight teams will be chosen by total cumulative points. These eight will continue on to the playoff rounds which will be single elimination. This round will be in the NAQT buzzer format. Trophies will be awarded to all eight teams that make it to the playoff rounds. The championship team will receive a $200 prize.
Complimentary bagels and juice will be served in the Bloomfield High School cafeteria between 8:00 and 8:30am. There will be a break for lunch part way through the preliminary rounds, lasting for approximately one hour, with the conclusion of the preliminary rounds after lunch. No lunch services will be provided for the teams at BHS, but a list of local eateries will be distributed.
The registration fee for the tournament is once again $80.00 for each school’s first team and $50.00 for each additional team. We will consider our competition full when forty teams have registered.
The Fifteenth Annual
B.A.T.E
Bloomfield Academic Tournament of Excellence
At Bloomfield High School
February 9th, 2008
REGISTRATION FORM
SCHOOL NAME: _______________________________________________________
ADDRESS: _____________________________________________________________
CITY: _______________________ STATE: ___________ ZIP CODE: ____________
SCHOOL PHONE: _______________________ EMAIL: _______________________
NAME OF ADVISOR(S): _________________________________________________
ADVISOR’S HOME PHONE #: ___________________________________________
REGISTRATION FEE: $80.00
ADDITIONAL TEAMS: ____________________X $50.00 $_________________
TOTAL AMOUNT ENCLOSED $_________________
PLEASE RETURN THIS NO LATER THAN FEBRUARY 5TH, 2008
CHECKS MADE PAYABLE TO: BHS ACADEMIC TOURNAMENT
MAIL TO: Bloomfield High School
Academic Team c/o Kate Putnoky
160 Broad St.
Bloomfield, NJ 07003
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Just quickly, what exactly are the Jeopardy style questions? Are those just quick one-liners with buzzers, or is it the way that school teachers run jeopardy in the classroom where the teams alternate in question selection and only the team selecting the question can answer? If it's like that, would the questions be pyramidal at all? And why not use all the NAQT set if you would use it for the playoffs? That would let good questions go to waste.
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I don't think they are actually using NAQT questions here. I think they are just using games that resemble NAQT for the playoffs.
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You would be correct. My advisor said she ordered questions, but I do not know from where.Deesy Does It wrote:I don't think they are actually using NAQT questions here. I think they are just using games that resemble NAQT for the playoffs.
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That still didn't answer my first question...
dinoian wrote:Just quickly, what exactly are the Jeopardy style questions? Are those just quick one-liners with buzzers, or is it the way that school teachers run jeopardy in the classroom where the teams alternate in question selection and only the team selecting the question can answer?
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2nd one, alternate. If the team with choice gets it wrong, the other team has a chance to answer and steal the question.dinoian wrote:That still didn't answer my first question...dinoian wrote:Just quickly, what exactly are the Jeopardy style questions? Are those just quick one-liners with buzzers, or is it the way that school teachers run jeopardy in the classroom where the teams alternate in question selection and only the team selecting the question can answer?
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I believe there is a points bonus for wins.dinoian wrote:Does this mean W-L doesn't matter?TheCzarMan wrote: After the conclusion of the preliminary rounds, the top eight teams will be chosen by total cumulative points.
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Or you could just seed it by W-L and then rank the teams with the same records by points, the standard practice at pretty much every high school tournament.
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I'd like to register a team of students from my school, but we would not be officially going under the school name. Should I put my home address and home phone where it asks for the school address and school phone? Also should I put the parent that is driving us there as the adviser, or should I put myself? Also, is it possible to bring a check the day of the tournament?
Jeopardy-style tournaments are very, very common in NJ. Here's a primer as to how they usually work, presented without opinion:
-Bagels/donuts and OJ provided by host school. Sometimes there's coffee and pastry for the coaches.
-Six categories, sometimes a standard distribution (e.g. Science, Lang/Lit, History, etc.), sometimes narrower categories. Usually five questions in each, valued at 20/40/60/80/100. Higher-valued questions are intended to be more difficult.
-Two teams of four, each sitting at a pod of desks with paper in the middle for everyone.
-Coaches read the questions and keep score on the board. The host will usually provide a bunch of readers/scorekeepers since the number of teams is usually greater than the number of coaches.
-Coin flip to see which team picks first. Team #1 picks a category and value. Question is read, sometimes repeated, then the team gets some amount of time (usually 30 sec) to discuss, either aloud or on paper. Captain or captain's designee answers. If it's right, they get the points. If it's wrong, the other team gets some amount of time (usually 10 sec) to answer and steal the points.
-Team #2 goes. Alternate possession until the board is clear.
-Games last ~40 minutes, so usually four rounds are played before a lunch break.
-Opponents are randomly drawn from the entire field (no brackets). Teams get a spreadsheet and find their 4 opponents and rooms. Coaches are on their honor not to game the system and put their A team against the perceived weaker competition.
-Score is based on total points. Winning team receives a bonus, usually 50-100 pts. If it's a tie, split the bonus pts.
Is it quizbowl the way the regulars on this board know it? Obviously not. But teams that know a lot generally advance farther than teams that don't know a lot, so it can't be all bad.
Tournaments of 40+ teams are common.
-Bagels/donuts and OJ provided by host school. Sometimes there's coffee and pastry for the coaches.
-Six categories, sometimes a standard distribution (e.g. Science, Lang/Lit, History, etc.), sometimes narrower categories. Usually five questions in each, valued at 20/40/60/80/100. Higher-valued questions are intended to be more difficult.
-Two teams of four, each sitting at a pod of desks with paper in the middle for everyone.
-Coaches read the questions and keep score on the board. The host will usually provide a bunch of readers/scorekeepers since the number of teams is usually greater than the number of coaches.
-Coin flip to see which team picks first. Team #1 picks a category and value. Question is read, sometimes repeated, then the team gets some amount of time (usually 30 sec) to discuss, either aloud or on paper. Captain or captain's designee answers. If it's right, they get the points. If it's wrong, the other team gets some amount of time (usually 10 sec) to answer and steal the points.
-Team #2 goes. Alternate possession until the board is clear.
-Games last ~40 minutes, so usually four rounds are played before a lunch break.
-Opponents are randomly drawn from the entire field (no brackets). Teams get a spreadsheet and find their 4 opponents and rooms. Coaches are on their honor not to game the system and put their A team against the perceived weaker competition.
-Score is based on total points. Winning team receives a bonus, usually 50-100 pts. If it's a tie, split the bonus pts.
Is it quizbowl the way the regulars on this board know it? Obviously not. But teams that know a lot generally advance farther than teams that don't know a lot, so it can't be all bad.
Tournaments of 40+ teams are common.
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have you already received registration for the bergen academies? i think i sent it to your coach, but i never received a reply. in either case, we're bringing two teams, one buzzer system, and will pay with a check on the day of the tournament
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When discussing teams that sent back replies, Bergen did not come up. I'll check into that on Monday when we are done with midterms.aarcoh wrote:have you already received registration for the bergen academies? i think i sent it to your coach, but i never received a reply. in either case, we're bringing two teams, one buzzer system, and will pay with a check on the day of the tournament
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hmmm.....i sent an email to your coach kate putnoky ([email protected]) so she have it. Anyway, we'll be there one way or another
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having been to several jeopardy style, i can say the questions on average are usually around naqt difficulty, maybe a little easier. i say on average because every category goes from easiest to hardest question. the easiest question will usually be known by everyone in the room, while no one may know the hardest question
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Yes, our advisor refuses to run a tournament with less than 20 teams due to believing that less than that number doesn't make the tournament worth it to run (aka, bottom line)cornfused wrote:Wait... canceled because less than TWENTY teams are coming?
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I'm sorry, but your advisor is being really really stupid. 20 teams is like 3 times the number of teams that make a tournament worth still holding. Are all the questions done?
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Yes, they actually bought the questions using the Academic Team fund.Deesy Does It wrote:I'm sorry, but your advisor is being really really stupid. 20 teams is like 3 times the number of teams that make a tournament worth still holding. Are all the questions done?
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We (MAST) were sorry to hear that the tournament was cancelled, especially since we were bringing 3 teams, and given the fact that our tournament ran with 7 teams last month, I was kind of surprised to get the email on Tuesday. I thought that maybe the problem was more internal (staffing, question writing, etc.). Hopefully next year will be different.
sorry, but just wondering, who made the announcement that BATE was cancelled/where was it made? colonia was never informed of the cancellation, by email or by phone. my advisor knew nothing of this website, only of a different one where she said information is usually posted, and the only clue we had as to the fact that it might've been cancelled is b/c a couple of us stumbled across this randomly when we were looking to see if we could find which teams were playing. since we didn't recieve any formal notification though, we still drove up. was a mass email sent out or anything that we never got?
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It was by chance that I sent an email to kate putnoky and was told the tournament was cancelled. Yeah, not a great job letting everyone know.
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You're from colonia, right? Could you tell me a bit about your tournament on April 12th (maybe even post it on this website)
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You're from colonia, right? Could you tell me a bit about your tournament on April 12th (maybe even post it on this website)
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For future reference, this site is legitimate enough to count as "official" when it comes to tournament announcements, so if a tournament is listed as cancelled then its cancelled. I haven't seen one instance of a tournament being officially listed as cancelled here and then still running.anikam wrote:sorry, but just wondering, who made the announcement that BATE was cancelled/where was it made? colonia was never informed of the cancellation, by email or by phone. my advisor knew nothing of this website, only of a different one where she said information is usually posted, and the only clue we had as to the fact that it might've been cancelled is b/c a couple of us stumbled across this randomly when we were looking to see if we could find which teams were playing. since we didn't recieve any formal notification though, we still drove up. was a mass email sent out or anything that we never got?
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