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Obligatory thread to discuss all the quizbowl happenings in the Show-Me State for the coming season. As usual, much of the discussion normally transpires on the state board and Discord.

If you know of any dates for upcoming tournaments, feel free to post them here. For my part, I'll be helping run events in the Southwest at Sparta (Oct. 26th) and Glendale (Nov. 2nd), then turning my attention back north for South Shelby (Jan. 11th), Mexico (March 12th) and Moberly (April 4th). There are other events in the works I may also help in planning.
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So, with many of Missouri's best players graduating, which teams do you think will do well in the upcoming season?
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My list of teams to watch this year, in no particular order:
  • Thayer - the Bobcats came close to claiming their first state title, falling short against College Heights. Garrett Blum is a senior, he was the lead scorer on Missouri's C team at NASAT, and he's eager to get to the pinnacle. This developing program right on the Arkansas line is already becoming a bright beacon in an otherwise scenic Ozarks teeming with hickory trees and staunch traditionalists on both sides of the state line. One last hurrah for Garrett could be the legacy that puts South Central Missouri permanently on the road to maintaining a high-quality quizbowl circuit.
  • Hallsville - Sam's graduated, but the Indians have a burgeoning sophomore class (among them, Lauren Blakemore and Emma Crocker) that is preparing to pick up where he left off. That should include getting back to SSNCT and the playoffs. But they could have a serious challenge for their conference's crown from...
  • Eldon - the Mustangs had a strong senior class last year, but Caleb Martonfi has perhaps single-handedly elevated this program to state contender. De-throning Hallsville in the Tri-County Central would do wonders for marking a shift of power in Central Missouri, not to mention within Miller County.
  • Palmyra - the core of the Panthers' CCC champion squad returns for their senior year. Fresh off fending off Eldon for third at state, Mason Mitchell and Chase Goldinger will seek to improve on both, and they just might finally take the trip to nationals they ended up putting off last year.
  • Thomas Jefferson Independent - Hell will have no fury like a Cavalier scorned out of a district title by the eventual state champs just a mile away. I expect a significant performance from Savannah Dillard in her senior campaign, as well as the sharp talent that TJI always seems to draw to their ranks.
  • Exeter - they're on the map folks, and not just because the Frisco went through there and not neighboring Cassville. The Class One champs will have much to defend as they develop a legacy that few others have been able to do in Southwest Missouri.
  • Columbia Independent - ten points away from a state title! 20 points away from making the afternoon rounds at MSNCT! These close calls will certainly fuel the Lions as they prepare for the season. Unfortunately, it's just Asher Lidsky joining the high school ranks from their MS squad, but he'll be a welcome addition to the lineup.
  • Washington - Samantha Doepker is perhaps the one player to watch for in Missouri. As a freshman, she won two tournaments in as many weeks solo. Together with her teammates, the Blue Jays could once again be in position to contend for the GAC and Class Four. And of course, there's...
  • Ladue - The Rams just had a Golden Jubilee of a year - state titles in quiz bowl, football, and girls' swimming! It even included their first trophy finish at nationals in over five years. However, the trio of Akshay, Moses and Raj have graduated. But in their place are two promising juniors, Louis Li and Eric Yin. The Rams will again be loaded in their defense of their eighth state title. So will
  • St Joseph Central - No Gentry, no problem: Frederic Rivas-Giorgi has emerged as Northwest Missouri's pre-eminent player, and he's just a sophomore. They will still be a contender.
  • Fort Osage - After a bruising campaign last year, David O'Dell and Aidan McWilliams have shown potential and eagerness to get back to the top of a stacked Suburban White division. If they can do that, they would be in prime position to repeat the feat against NKC at districts. And speaking of
  • North Kansas City - While the Hornets have some talented juniors in the wings, notably Alfonso Franco and Reilly Nash, the team will continue to depend on senior captain Ryan Huynh. While he's posted some promising numbers, they're not the most prominent when compared to several of the other names I've mentioned.
  • KC St Pius X - A young squad made their mark in the novice circuits last year, primarily from the growth of Nnamdi Anyanike and Cole Harms. Everyone on the Warriors squad that went 3-7 at HSNCT is back, with juniors the core of the team. And bad news for Midland Empire stalwarts Savannah: it's a drive down I-29 and then up the hill at the split with I-35 for the conference meet this spring.
And one hidden gem worth keeping an eye on:
  • Atlanta - the Hornets ventured to their first 20/20 tournament last year, led by underclassmen Kyle Viers and Aden Zuccarini. They will have to do more to contend in the historically (and relatively) tight Tri-County North, but with Bevier graduating most of their three-peat team that also went to state, there might be an opening.
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One team to definitely be on the lookout for is the St. Louis Patriots. Although they are not able to attend many tournaments because of their homeschool status, the tournaments which they went to last year they showed great promise. Sam Lindsey is a fantastic history player who at WHIT was third in powers behind only Michael Powers and Samuel Lockwood. However, oftentimes it seems a lack of generalization stopped them from making a deep run at events last year which should make incoming freshman Owen Farra's impact even more potent. Owen was one of, if not Missouri's best middle school player (especially in humanities) and placed 9th at IPNCT only by a loss to eventual champion Arin Parsa. Given that Sam improved drastically from his freshman to his sophomore season, and their solid third scorer in Tim Amiri, I expect this team to compete for tournament championships wherever they go.


Also note that Saint Joseph Central keeps not only Frederick but Ansh Gupta who played very well last year, even with the shadow effect of Collin. He was the second highest scorer on the team at events like WUHSAC XXI and the NKC Varsity tournament. Because of depleted rosters, he also often would be the primary scorer at tournaments last year and his performances at events like Lee Summit West showed he was extremely capable of being a first option on a tournament contending team. I expect him and Frederick to be a highly effective 1-2 punch this year as he continues to diversify his areas of expertise.

I would also like to mention Fort Zumwalt North. Although their primary scorer Caleb Fick is gone, their breakout performances last year and several of their top members returning makes me unable to count them out for another top 4 placement at MSHSAA State or even a win like at the Orchard Farm invitational. Expect them to once again be a force whenever they appear again.

And of course do I have to even mention Ladue? As many teams have learned over the last decade, Ladue will always be a perennial contender and major threat no matter how much talent graduates. Even with the departure of Akshay, Raj and Moses I would be shocked not to see them in another state championship game. Eric Yin takes over Akshay's role of the best science player in Missouri and Louis Li's history knowledge will only grow more formidable. Though they may not be as complete as the Ladue of 18-19 this is a team who will once again be hard pressed to find any competition to push them.

Overall though I will no longer be participating, this season looks like one which will be quite memorable. I'm very excited to see what teams appear to fill in the void left behind from many of the top Missouri players graduating. I'm certainly looking forward to it.
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Good additions, Felix. Is Lorraine still on the FZN lineup, or did she also graduate?

I also realized another hidden gem that could make things interesting in the Northeast:
  • Paris - the Coyotes ventured to their first 20/20 tournaments this past spring. They parlayed a respectable performance on a tough Scottie set at STARK into a district title, then surprised Lewis & Clark Conference champs Scotland County to return to state. Nearly everyone on that lineup is returning, including seniors Emily Havens and Abby Hendren.
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Atlashill wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:28 pm Good additions, Felix. Is Lorraine still on the FZN lineup, or did she also graduate?
I'm pretty sure Caleb, Lorraine and Emily from FZN all graduated.
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Thanks for the mention, Kyle. Id like to add to the list.

Liberty (Original) - Liberty has made a comeback this year, making a large jump in improvement from January to the Late march tournaments in Smithville and at NKC. Putting up pretty decent stats at the NKC Varsity tournament, Liberty went undefeated in the prelims before falling to powerhouses Belton A and St. Joe Central, Winning against Lees Summit North, and then losing to Savannah A. Potential lies in Kit Mallet, Who has only played for 1 year, leading the team in scoring with impressive individual stats. Their 20/20 play has been upped massively, going from being placed very low at A-set tournaments to being in the top 10 at IS tournaments over the last 5 years. What will they produce in the coming years?

Polo - A small school in the northwest, Polo was the underdog of MARS V. They went to nationals for the first time this, as well as placing 3rd @ Class 2 MSHSAA state this year. Their team is well rounded and I look forward to seeing their progress.

Belton - With their coach leaving for Staley, Belton's team could go anywhere at this point. Mitchell is quite the History/Geo/Current events player and could still make the team relevant. Lets hope they stick around for a bit longer, providing us with that solidly run BASIC after school tournament, and staying a powerhouse in KC.

SoBoCo - Placing well at Hallsville's February tournament, and taking 2nd at Districts, I think that Southern Boone could make a decent run at SSNCT, They are well balanced, and lead by Logan Anderson by a slight margin. I hope that this team goes far. Id love to see them at some more Columbia Tournaments.

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jij03 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:33 pm Liberty (Original) - Liberty has made a comeback this year, making a large jump in improvement from January to the Late march tournaments in Smithville and at NKC. Putting up pretty decent stats at the NKC Varsity tournament, Liberty went undefeated in the prelims before falling to powerhouses Belton A and St. Joe Central, Winning against Lees Summit North, and then losing to Savannah A. Potential lies in Kit Mallet, Who has only played for 1 year, leading the team in scoring with impressive individual stats. Their 20/20 play has been upped massively, going from being placed very low at A-set tournaments to being in the top 10 at IS tournaments over the last 5 years. What will they produce in the coming years?
I remember their crosstown counterparts Liberty North having some good underclassmen (Max Hodes, Rachel Kim, Zach Rodick) last year. Could they end up better than the OG on Blue Jay Drive?

Unfortunately, I'm still of the belief that the metro that gave Jeff and me our start remains behind the curve when compared to Columbia, St Louis, and potentially even Springfield.
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So I might as well give my own take on things, here's my thoughts on some of the teams (in no particular order):

Ladue
Although we lose most of last year's amazing A team, we still have two of Missouri's best science and history players in myself and Louis (who is also surprisingly good at sports!), as well as greatly underrated RMP specialist Michael Wayne. Our main obstacle will likely be our lack of knowledge in literature and fine arts, but as long as we can patch these holes, Ladue will definitely remain a top-tier power.

STL Patriots
I can definitely concur with Felix here. Despite attending few tournaments last year, these homeschoolers definitely proved themselves as one of Missouri's top teams. Sam Lindsey is no doubt one of the state's best individual scorers, especially in history; if his teammates can help cover his weaker areas, I can see this team doing very well in this season's tournaments.

St. Joseph Central
After seeing their strong performance last season, it's no doubt Central will once again dominate the western half of the state. Based on their stats, Ansh and Frederick could easily challenge myself and Louis at being Missouri's dynamic duo, and if they keep improving they could potentially usurp Ladue's hegemony.

Washington
With the rise of Samantha "solo'd a tournament as a freshman" Doepker, Washington's future looks bright indeed. Although not quite ready to take on Ladue or Central, this team could definitely contend for third place in a statewide tournament.

John Burroughs
I'm surprised this team hasn't been mentioned yet. Led by Nathan Peng, Burroughs emerged as a strong team last season, snatching a Class 3 state championship as well as putting up a strong fight against teams like Washington, STL Patriots and Ladue B at regular-season tournaments. If Nathan returns (or potentially even if he graduates), this team could certainly give everyone outside the top 2 a run for their money.
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Atlashill wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:53 pm I remember their crosstown counterparts Liberty North having some good underclassmen (Max Hodes, Rachel Kim, Zach Rodick) last year. Could they end up better than the OG on Blue Jay Drive?

Unfortunately, I'm still of the belief that the metro that gave Jeff and me our start remains behind the curve when compared to Columbia, St Louis, and potentially even Springfield.
Liberty North was a good addition to our SCT-DII State Qualifier Tournament, for sure. I'm quite happy that Pleasant Hill came as well. They've dominated the MRVC in scholar bowl for the past 2 years and had decent performance at Fort Osage's various tournaments.
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So... we need to add College Heights Christian to our list. Sophomore Gabe Forrest was two tossups away from single-handedly grailing an entire round of LOGIC at Sparta Fall. (Garrett Blum of Thayer was even closer that same round.)

Also, we might have a new hidden gem at Fair Grove. Their varsity team notched a national-qualifying finish at Glendale, but at Sparta was denied in overtime by Greenwood Lab from the presumptive final bid to PACE available. It would be cool to see how they fare if they're able to venture closer to I-70. (details corrected)
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Atlashill wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:12 pm So... we need to add College Heights Christian to our list.
I wholeheartedly agree with this. Gabe has made a massive improvement over the summer and has filled in the Gap left by Will S. Quite well. I'd like to see him pitted up against players in the Columbia and St Louis areas, and I look forward to a matchup with TJ IDS
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Let's not forget that the St. Louis Patriots managed to net 22 ppb on RAFT at East Central College, with Sam and Owen breaking the Hoppes-Mikanowski Limit of 70 ppg each. Granted, they were up against a weak field, but these strong statistics certainly show a potential for them to break top 3 in the state this season.
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Lots of great teams will be in attendance at Washington University Fall this weekend, including several nationally-ranked teams. I'm excited to see how teams from Missouri will measure up against our out of state friends.
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Hey! Shoutout to Felix for not sleeping on STLP! I just had to comment on our first tough competition with this brand new team. Sam truly brought it with an excellent history/RPSS performance as usual, while Tim captained par excellence and new junior Abby brought in her pop culture knowledge (a rare gem in the homeschool crowd!) I feel like Owen ended up being even more of a boost than anticipated after a monster study summer across disciplines. We still have to work on our whole-day endurance (especially since these kids aren't even accustomed to spending a full day at school and tend to flag hard in the afternoon) but it looks like a promising season.
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As I announced on the Missouri boards, MOQBA is hosting a NASAT Workshop on December 14th at CIS. Hope to see as many of you who want to attend there!
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The West Is Rising.

Congrats to College Heights for clearing the field at the MOQBA Fall Championship, followed by North Kansas City in second and St Joseph Central in third. All three are along Highway 71. Hallsville was fourth.

The last big hurrah of the winter (competition-wise) will be December 7th when Washington mirrors LOGIC, with SSNCT champs Glasgow (KY) the lone out-of-state school in the 48-team field that also includes Ladue, St Louis Patriots and Hallsville. Also on the 7th, Kickapoo hosts 30 teams, including CHC, NKC, and Wichita East (KS), using IS-190.
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With last weekend's NASAT workshop, the fall phase of the season is coming to a close. Thoughts on what has transpired so far?

In short, I think the state's circuit has its new standard bearers for the next couple years: the tandem of Owen Farra and Sam Lindsey of St Louis Patriots in the east, along with Gabe Forrest of College Heights Christian in the southwest. And they're all underclassmen. We've had some pleasant surprises, ranging from Poplar Bluff in the southeast denying Ladue a perfect record at Mizzou Fall to NKC's return to the top of the KC metro circuit. Several other programs are rising in the Southwest, with Fair Grove and Greenwood Lab among those already booking their inaugural trips to nationals.

Looking ahead, it's going to be another busy spring semester, as Fatima, Palmyra, Fair Grove, and CHC are set to debut tournaments. WUHSAC promises to be another significant classic Presidents' Day Weekend. And we already have 30 teams registered for the MOQBA Qualifier, set for Leap Day, with a good chance the field increases.
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I've created a midseason poll for the top 10 teams in the Missouri circuit. The poll will be open until 7 pm CST on Jan. 18, 2020, after which the results will be posted.
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As there haven't been any additional poll responses within the past week, and in the interest of time, I will be closing the poll and posting the results at 7 pm CST this Sunday, Jan. 12. If you haven't voted yet, or wish to edit your response, please do so before then!
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Poll results are in! Here are your midseason top 10:

1. St. Louis Patriots A: 115 points, ranked in 100% of ballots, highest vote: 1, lowest vote: 4
2. Ladue A: 110 points, ranked in 100% of ballots, highest vote: 1, lowest vote: 2
3. College Heights Christian A: 98 points, ranked in 100% of ballots, highest vote: 1, lowest vote : 4
4. St. Joseph Central A: 82 points, ranked in 100% of ballots, highest vote: 3, lowest vote: 5
5. North Kansas City A: 69 points, ranked in 100% of ballots, highest vote: 3, lowest vote: 7
6. Poplar Bluff A: 58 points, ranked in 75.0% of ballots, highest vote: 5, lowest vote: unranked
7. Hallsville A: 40 points, ranked in 83.3% of ballots, highest vote: 6, lowest vote: unranked
8. Washington A: 28 points, ranked in 83.3% of ballots, highest vote: 7, lowest vote: unranked
9. Kickapoo A: 21 points, ranked in 75.0% of ballots, highest vote: 6, lowest vote: unranked
10. Thayer A: 18 points, ranked in 58.3% of ballots, highest vote: 7, lowest vote: unranked

Also receiving votes: Thomas Jefferson Independent A (13 points), Helias A (7 points), Raymore-Peculiar A (6 points), Savannah A (6 points), Columbia Independent A (2 points), Mexico A (1 point), Webster Groves A (1 point)

Congrats to St. Louis Patriots for being voted the #1 team in Missouri! It'll be interesting to see whether they can hold on to this spot in 2020, as Ladue narrowly trails them by only 5 points in the poll!

The individual ballots and justifications can be found here.

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The Missouri History Bee and Bowl is tomorrow (2/07), and the field notably includes two MacDonald County teams (all the way from southwest Missouri!) as well as two homeschool teams of STL Patriots players. Though I fully expect both the Bee and Bowl finals to devolve into a 1v1 showdown between the Big 2 history players of Louis Li and Sam Lindsey, it'll be interesting to see how the rest of the pack hold ups in the only all-history tournament of the year.
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In a surprising twist, Marquette defeated Lindsey Homeschool to take 2nd in the Missouri History Bowl, losing to Ladue in the finals. Less surprising were the results of the History Bee: Sam Lindsey finished 1st, while Louis Li was 2nd.

Moving on, the next few weeks will be an exciting time - WUHSAC is coming up this Saturday (2/15), notably featuring a full St. Joseph Central A for the first time this season; while the epic showdown of the NAQT State Qualifier (2/29) is only three weeks away!
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Hot takes from this past weekend's Qualifier:
  • The battle for Newman Road is going to be ferocious. Thomas Jefferson Independent, behind the senior leadership of Savannah Dillard, dealt College Heights Christian their first significant loss of the season, denying Gabe Forrest and the Eagles a spot in the top four. The juggernauts from Joplin had the top two players at the tournament, with the sophomore Forrest amassing 114 ppg in the prelims, and Dillard claiming 96 ppg en route to (incredibly) a neg-free day. Unfortunately, with TJI unable to attend College Heights' inaugural tournament in four weeks, the next meeting between these two will likely be at districts April 18th at CHCS.
  • Hallsville is once again reloaded, as they fended out a challenge from neighbors Centralia to win their eighth consecutive small school title. Sophomore Lauren Blakemore led the way for the Indians amid a balanced performance that saw them defeat Moberly and Kickapoo, but the Panthers are certainly formidable too. With (likely) two conference tilts against Palmyra coming up this week, Centralia's Jacob Bentlage and Ben Ray certainly have momentum after Centralia took care of Kickapoo and Helias in the prelims.
  • Ladue B and Hickman just missed out on bids to PACE NSC, and interestingly finished in the top 12 with senior-less lineups. For Hickman, that's certainly notice delivered to their future foes in the soon-to-start Central Missouri Activities Conference, who had five of its seven founding members in the field. Of the other CMAC members, Helias Catholic topped the first consolation pool, including their round 10 win over Rock Bridge (the latter also with no seniors on their roster), while Sedalia Smith-Cotton went 4-6 and Jefferson City went 2-7. (The other two schools, Battle and Capital City, have no programs to speak of just yet.)
The next six weeks should prove quite enlightening as teams prepare for districts and make their last attempts to secure bids to nationals. Currently seven teams from Missouri are registered for HSNCT, while 11 are set for SSNCT (one of whom is in the open division), and three teams are confirmed for NSC, with another two having started the registration process. Additionally, five middle teams will venture to MSNCT.

(addendum):
Atlashill wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:12 pm Also, we might have a new hidden gem at Fair Grove. Their varsity team notched a national-qualifying finish at Glendale, but at Sparta was denied in overtime by Greenwood Lab from the presumptive final bid to PACE available. It would be cool to see how they fare if they're able to venture closer to I-70. (details corrected)
Despite a rough start that saw them fall to NKC and TJI, Fair Grove regrouped to advance to the second consolation pool and finish 6-4 on the day. While that did include wins over conference foes Clever in the afternoon, there was an odd quirk where they beat Calvary A only to fall to Calvary B in the next round. Still, Fair Grove's top two scorers are both freshmen... I think we will be hearing more about the Eagles in the near future.

Incidentally, Fort Osage C claimed their only win on the day over Fort Osage B.
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Re: Missouri 2019-20

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Atlashill wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:43 am
Ladue B and Hickman just missed out on bids to PACE NSC, and interestingly finished in the top 12 with senior-less lineups. For Hickman, that's certainly notice delivered to their future foes in the soon-to-start Central Missouri Activities Conference, who had five of its seven founding members in the field. Of the other CMAC members, Helias Catholic topped the first consolation pool, including their round 10 win over
Ladue B's final placing also masks the fact that, despite being a three-person team, they came within one tossup of defeating eventual champions STL Patriots in the prelims, while their playoff win against NKC A would have guaranteed them a spot in the top 8 if not for NKC's impressive upset victory over the Patriots. They definitely shouldn't be slept on for PACE and for the 2020-21 season.

(Interestingly enough, Ladue B's win over NKC A was what ultimately kept STL Patriots in contention for the title; NKC would have otherwise advanced to the superplayoffs in the Patriots' stead.)
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