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So will Maryland retake the title from Virginia this year? Will Illinois find a way to win the final round?
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I mean no offense to Russell, but seriously, Kentucky needs a better way to decide who gets to go to Panasonic. C'mon folks, Gov Cup is the world's shittiest tournament. Do we really want to represent Kentucky based on GOVCUP? I say no. I say have an all-star team like almost every other state. But maybe this belongs in an email to KAAC.
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Just my $0.02 worth:
I don't see a problem with having the winner of Governor's Cup as the one chosen, but given that Governor's Cup quiz bowl is quick recall, I would assume whomever is chosen will practice Panasonic-style questions prior to the tournament.
But I confess I do favor the all-star team. You're not alone: I think this is the first time (if ever?) that State College has qualified as the Pennsylvania representative; they will give all of us a run for our money!
I don't see a problem with having the winner of Governor's Cup as the one chosen, but given that Governor's Cup quiz bowl is quick recall, I would assume whomever is chosen will practice Panasonic-style questions prior to the tournament.
But I confess I do favor the all-star team. You're not alone: I think this is the first time (if ever?) that State College has qualified as the Pennsylvania representative; they will give all of us a run for our money!
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As unofficial representative of the Virginia team, I respectfully submit that we will wipe the floor with our esteemed colleagues from Maryland.
Has anyone actually come up with something state-themed to wear on the banquet night?
Has anyone actually come up with something state-themed to wear on the banquet night?
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I won't be there, but personally, I like the tshirts for MD that have crabs sitting around eating people and say "Payback's a bitch."BuzzerZen wrote: Has anyone actually come up with something state-themed to wear on the banquet night?
Then again, if I had gone this year I would have been with North Carolina, and somehow I don't think smearing BBQ on a shirt would be good.
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Uh... oh my. (And many of you thought my "swimsuits" comment was awkward.)Kechara wrote:I won't be there, but personally, I like the tshirts for MD that have crabs sitting around eating people and say "Payback's a bitch."BuzzerZen wrote: Has anyone actually come up with something state-themed to wear on the banquet night?
Then again, if I had gone this year I would have been with North Carolina, and somehow I don't think smearing BBQ on a shirt would be good.
I was going to suggest Carolina Hurricanes hockey sweaters... but I don't think it would conform to dress code either.
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Sweaters!?!?? In Orlando in June?!!?? I don't kn ow about the rest of the Illinoisans, but I found it extremely difficult to find a college polo shirt (t-shirts aren't allowed and it's too hot for sweatshirts), we may be wearing lapel pins as well.
And colonial Williamsburg costumes sound great, but some of those north of the Rappahannock might not like it
And colonial Williamsburg costumes sound great, but some of those north of the Rappahannock might not like it
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From what those who know hockey tell me, the "uniforms" they wear during games are known as sweaters. I wouldn't want to suggest the real woolen kind for Orlando. :)
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I think State College also went back in 1998 or maybe 1996. In any case, Julie had told me this was literally the first time in something like 10 years that they've won their state championship (apparently their state tournament is more screwed up than most everyone else's--I don't know for fact, though, having never been or found out many details).David Riley wrote:But I confess I do favor the all-star team. You're not alone: I think this is the first time (if ever?) that State College has qualified as the Pennsylvania representative; they will give all of us a run for our money!
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As the slightly-more-official representative for VA, I respectully submit that my teammate has modesty issues. I look forward to a good match, and I expect I'll get one.As unofficial representative of the Virginia team, I respectfully submit that we will wipe the floor with our esteemed colleagues from Maryland.
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Julie's told me a lot about that state championship. The state finals I think are held at the state capitol building. Believe me, if State College hadn't won their championship in over 10 years, something is screwed up.Byko wrote:I think State College also went back in 1998 or maybe 1996. In any case, Julie had told me this was literally the first time in something like 10 years that they've won their state championship (apparently their state tournament is more screwed up than most everyone else's--I don't know for fact, though, having never been or found out many details).David Riley wrote:But I confess I do favor the all-star team. You're not alone: I think this is the first time (if ever?) that State College has qualified as the Pennsylvania representative; they will give all of us a run for our money!
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As a little warning, everyone make sure they bring their rain gear. Florida gets thunderstorms about every afternoon in the summer, and it looks like Alberto is forming in the NW Caribbean right now. The models are showing it hitting central to northern Florida around Tuesday. If it presents any serious problems, I'm sure our tournament organizers and Disney World (which was just certified as a Storm Safe Community by NOAA) will take care of us.
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So eight teams are already into the semifinals out at Panasonic. Here's my initial impressions:
1. Once again, Florida got an incredible weak draw for the first round with two teams finishing behind the empty chairs (that would have been filled by North Carolina). It doesn't look like Missouri had much trouble either.
2. Virginia had a game, it looks like, with Colorado, who is starting to really make some noise in this format. They've made finals each of the last two years and clearly aren't a pushover. Will they dominate over New Mexico (yes), New Hampshire (yes), and Wisconsin (probably) tomorrow?
3. So Connecticut came out of the room of blah with Montana close behind. Now there's a new room of blah tomorrow: Montana, Iowa, Idaho, and Washington. I'm saying that first team to 200 wins automatically there.
4. Nice to see DC put up a better performance than they did at all last year. Too bad they'll be running into an unhappy Illinois team tomorrow.
5. Ah yes, the room of death--congrats to Maryland for coming out of that in a more dominant fashion than I think any of us expected. Will that help them in the semis and potentially the finals?
6. The people who run Pennsylvania's state tournament should take note of what happened today: 326 points is a dominant performance, and I have a feeling it was pretty much mistake-free considering the scores from Oklahoma and DC in that room. Something is clearly wrong in the Keystone State when State College wins their state tournament to get to Orlando only about once every 10 years.
7. My picks for the matches of the repechage tomorrow: Alabama (with New Jersey keeping it close), Illinois, Tennesse (in a surprise over probably favored New York), Montana, Colorado, and Texas (especially if it's state tournament winner Clear Lake, as their math & science ability will really help them here).
1. Once again, Florida got an incredible weak draw for the first round with two teams finishing behind the empty chairs (that would have been filled by North Carolina). It doesn't look like Missouri had much trouble either.
2. Virginia had a game, it looks like, with Colorado, who is starting to really make some noise in this format. They've made finals each of the last two years and clearly aren't a pushover. Will they dominate over New Mexico (yes), New Hampshire (yes), and Wisconsin (probably) tomorrow?
3. So Connecticut came out of the room of blah with Montana close behind. Now there's a new room of blah tomorrow: Montana, Iowa, Idaho, and Washington. I'm saying that first team to 200 wins automatically there.
4. Nice to see DC put up a better performance than they did at all last year. Too bad they'll be running into an unhappy Illinois team tomorrow.
5. Ah yes, the room of death--congrats to Maryland for coming out of that in a more dominant fashion than I think any of us expected. Will that help them in the semis and potentially the finals?
6. The people who run Pennsylvania's state tournament should take note of what happened today: 326 points is a dominant performance, and I have a feeling it was pretty much mistake-free considering the scores from Oklahoma and DC in that room. Something is clearly wrong in the Keystone State when State College wins their state tournament to get to Orlando only about once every 10 years.
7. My picks for the matches of the repechage tomorrow: Alabama (with New Jersey keeping it close), Illinois, Tennesse (in a surprise over probably favored New York), Montana, Colorado, and Texas (especially if it's state tournament winner Clear Lake, as their math & science ability will really help them here).
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[quote]7. My picks for the matches of the repechage tomorrow: Alabama (with New Jersey keeping it close), Illinois, Tennesse (in a surprise over probably favored New York), Montana, Colorado, and Texas (especially if it's state tournament winner Clear Lake, as their math & science ability will really help them here).[/quote]
The Texas representative is Cistercian, which finished 9th at NAQT HSNCT. Clear Lake was apparently the first of three teams to decline the bid. If TQBA can get control of the state's Panasonic bid (lots of red tape, long story), we will consider trying to assemble an all-star team like many other states do.
The Texas representative is Cistercian, which finished 9th at NAQT HSNCT. Clear Lake was apparently the first of three teams to decline the bid. If TQBA can get control of the state's Panasonic bid (lots of red tape, long story), we will consider trying to assemble an all-star team like many other states do.
As long as Panasonic continues to give money to make the tournament possible, teams will continue to come. I don't see it going away any time soon.jrbarry wrote:PAC down to only 31 teams? My question is how much longer will the PAC hang on as a "national" tournament?
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And as long as the Polk County office run it and other events...Byko wrote:As long as Panasonic continues to give money to make the tournament possible, teams will continue to come. I don't see it going away any time soon.jrbarry wrote:PAC down to only 31 teams? My question is how much longer will the PAC hang on as a "national" tournament?
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Room of Death
There is a new Room of Death for the semifinals tomorrow morning at 9:00 am:
Ohio
Virginia
Pennsylvania
Illinois
Iowa
The other semi-final rooms are:
California
Florida
Missouri
Alabama
Oklahoma
Connecticut
Maryland
Tennessee
Wisconsin
This time, Maryland lucked out with the empty NC table.
Ohio
Virginia
Pennsylvania
Illinois
Iowa
The other semi-final rooms are:
California
Florida
Missouri
Alabama
Oklahoma
Connecticut
Maryland
Tennessee
Wisconsin
This time, Maryland lucked out with the empty NC table.
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Well, actually, the empty NC table cannot be advanced to the semifinals since it would have been eliminated. But it's nice to think that we did. :)
There was going to be 14 spots, so one room would have had 4 teams rather than 5.
There was going to be 14 spots, so one room would have had 4 teams rather than 5.
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Yeah, it's sort of a room of death. But Iowa definitely waters it down a lot.
Other thoughts:
1. Wisconsin beating Colorado says something about that team. IIRC, last year, Wisconsin was Rufus King HS, and they were mostly juniors (including their All-America captain Eva Lam, who was pretty much flawless on foreign language). It makes me wonder what happened in the first game...or maybe Pennsylvania (State College) is that good.
2. For several years, San Dieguito represented California because they got the paperwork in to Panasonic first. I don't know if that's the case this year, but I wouldn't be surprised.
3. Do you think Illinois was a bit pissed off about losing to Maryland yesterday? Seriously:
Illinois 487
Oregon 168
D.C. 191
Minnesota 147
Has anyone seen anything close to that high of a score before?
4. My picks to go to the semis: Pennsylvania and Illinois leave the defending champions out of the finals, Florida and Missouri edge out dark-horse California, and Maryland leaves the others in the dust battling for second with Wisconsin narrowly beating Tennessee.
As for the finals, I think it's hard not to like Maryland and Pennsylvania in the top 2 with Florida, Missouri, and Illinois in a dogfight for third.
Other thoughts:
1. Wisconsin beating Colorado says something about that team. IIRC, last year, Wisconsin was Rufus King HS, and they were mostly juniors (including their All-America captain Eva Lam, who was pretty much flawless on foreign language). It makes me wonder what happened in the first game...or maybe Pennsylvania (State College) is that good.
2. For several years, San Dieguito represented California because they got the paperwork in to Panasonic first. I don't know if that's the case this year, but I wouldn't be surprised.
3. Do you think Illinois was a bit pissed off about losing to Maryland yesterday? Seriously:
Illinois 487
Oregon 168
D.C. 191
Minnesota 147
Has anyone seen anything close to that high of a score before?
4. My picks to go to the semis: Pennsylvania and Illinois leave the defending champions out of the finals, Florida and Missouri edge out dark-horse California, and Maryland leaves the others in the dust battling for second with Wisconsin narrowly beating Tennessee.
As for the finals, I think it's hard not to like Maryland and Pennsylvania in the top 2 with Florida, Missouri, and Illinois in a dogfight for third.
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Assuming full conversion of the handouts (which is 60 points... which that couldn't happen because the final score doesn't end in a 5/0), that's 327 points worth of buzzing correctly. Even if they were competing against two dead fish and a banana as opposed to three live teams, that's an incredible conversion rate out of 65 questions. That would mean that on average, Illinois would have to NET half of the questions in the 5- and 10-point tossup rounds correct and 12 of the 25 15-point tossups right (to get 330 points).Byko wrote:3. Do you think Illinois was a bit pissed off about losing to Maryland yesterday? Seriously:
Illinois 487
Oregon 168
D.C. 191
Minnesota 147
Has anyone seen anything close to that high of a score before?
I think that Illinois may make things a bit closer into the final pairings if they can keep up with the speed of the Virginia and Pennsylvania teams and hope that mistakes would send one of those teams to third near the end.
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Did I miss something? How come NC had a spot? I thought we never registered...E.T. Chuck wrote:Well, actually, the empty NC table cannot be advanced to the semifinals since it would have been eliminated. But it's nice to think that we did. :)
There was going to be 14 spots, so one room would have had 4 teams rather than 5.
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We held a spot after Mr. Davis and Ms. Dawkins wanted to see if we could do something after NCOAST. After it was obvious we couldn't, I asked to pull us from the competition.fancynancy wrote:Did I miss something? How come NC had a spot? I thought we never registered...E.T. Chuck wrote:Well, actually, the empty NC table cannot be advanced to the semifinals since it would have been eliminated. But it's nice to think that we did. :)
There was going to be 14 spots, so one room would have had 4 teams rather than 5.
Also, since my email archive went out the window on my reboot, I wanted to be sure you and Katherine were still planning to make it this weekend.
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Ohhhhhhhhhhh. Thanks, Dr. Chuck.E.T. Chuck wrote:We held a spot after Mr. Davis and Ms. Dawkins wanted to see if we could do something after NCOAST. After it was obvious we couldn't, I asked to pull us from the competition.fancynancy wrote:Did I miss something? How come NC had a spot? I thought we never registered...E.T. Chuck wrote:Well, actually, the empty NC table cannot be advanced to the semifinals since it would have been eliminated. But it's nice to think that we did. :)
There was going to be 14 spots, so one room would have had 4 teams rather than 5.
Also, since my email archive went out the window on my reboot, I wanted to be sure you and Katherine were still planning to make it this weekend.
As far as I know (as in we were talking yesterday), Katherine is coming. I cannot, though.
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Does that make it, for Illinois, a perfect day for bananafish?E.T. Chuck wrote: Assuming full conversion of the handouts (which is 60 points... which that couldn't happen because the final score doesn't end in a 5/0), that's 327 points worth of buzzing correctly. Even if they were competing against two dead fish and a banana as opposed to three live teams, that's an incredible conversion rate out of 65 questions. That would mean that on average, Illinois would have to NET half of the questions in the 5- and 10-point tossup rounds correct and 12 of the 25 15-point tossups right (to get 330 points).
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Well, I would probably look better in a swimsuit than some.....E.T. Chuck wrote:Uh... oh my. (And many of you thought my "swimsuits" comment was awkward.)Kechara wrote:I won't be there, but personally, I like the tshirts for MD that have crabs sitting around eating people and say "Payback's a bitch."BuzzerZen wrote: Has anyone actually come up with something state-themed to wear on the banquet night?
Then again, if I had gone this year I would have been with North Carolina, and somehow I don't think smearing BBQ on a shirt would be good.
I was going to suggest Carolina Hurricanes hockey sweaters... but I don't think it would conform to dress code either.
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Yeah, I was planning on coming down and hanging out in Orlando as an "adult" and helping you practice down there if you wanted toE.T. Chuck wrote:We held a spot after Mr. Davis and Ms. Dawkins wanted to see if we could do something after NCOAST. After it was obvious we couldn't, I asked to pull us from the competition.fancynancy wrote: Did I miss something? How come NC had a spot? I thought we never registered...
Also, since my email archive went out the window on my reboot, I wanted to be sure you and Katherine were still planning to make it this weekend.
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Pennsylvania's tournament is absolutely horrid (I'm a State College alum, and played in it three times) . Actual question from Pennsylvania's state tournament "British India was divided into 3 countries. Name one of them" (India obviously being one of the correct answers). If that's not a buzzer race, I don't know what is. Unfortunately, all of the questions are like that. Plus they have questions that change directions. Questions that start off like "The 16th president of the US was" and good teams will buzz there and say Lincoln, but then the question continues "Lincoln. Who composed A Lincoln Portrait?".
Anyone heard the results yet? They're 1.5 hours late in posting them.
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Out of curiosity, you wouldn't happen to know who runs it (or really, who provides the questions), would you? With a state as good as Pennsylvania, teams really deserve something better on which to decide their state champion, and I know there are several people on this board who could put together a far better question set for them.astrophysicist2b wrote:Pennsylvania's tournament is absolutely horrid (I'm a State College alum, and played in it three times).
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styxman wrote:Has anyone heard of any of the players on the "All-America" team?
Panasonic Academic Challenge wrote:Brian Alford - California
Chris Adams - Colorado
Andrew Hoekzema - Missouri
David Shimel - Florida
Elizabeth Stryker - West Virginia
Francois Greer - Pennsylvania
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Ohio had a decent showing, we won an easy room on day one. Had we lost, we would have had a much easier way into finals (fighting for the tennessee spot) but even so, we beat illinois and stayed close to State College. That was in large part due to the format, but i think we could have run with tennessee. I think an all-star team may have put us into finals, too. Who knows, maybe next year. Congrats MD.
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David was one of the players from Pensacola HS's team at NAQT. I believe Francois Greer is from State College, and I would guess that Chris Adams may be from Grand Junction HS, as they have been the representatives from Colorado the last couple of years.Howard wrote:styxman wrote:Has anyone heard of any of the players on the "All-America" team?Panasonic Academic Challenge wrote:Brian Alford - California
Chris Adams - Colorado
Andrew Hoekzema - Missouri
David Shimel - Florida
Elizabeth Stryker - West Virginia
Francois Greer - Pennsylvania
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ASFA had a wonderful time representing Alabama at Panasonic. We didn't particularly care for the format of the games, but everything else was very well done.
Rounds: In the first round, we came in last mainly due to the superb performance of Virginia and Colorado and also because of negs erasing a lot the few gains we made. On the second day, we played mediocrely during the 5 and 10 point rounds but took off during the 15 point round to achieve a solid victory. The semifinal game turned into a repeat of our first game with negs erasing all the gains we made. In that game we placed 4th, putting us in 10th place overall (if you rank the teams by placing in semifinals and then scores, if you rank by scores alone we placed ninth, not that it matters either way). Our strongest area was the team questions, where we consistently put up high scores. ASCA worksheets were good prep for those.
The Rest of the Tournament: First, I want to thank the PAC officials for the very enjoyable experience they provided. The food was excellent, the awards banquet was top-notch, and I loved Casino Night (lost all my money on the last hand of Blackjack, but still had a good time). Panasonic gave out some very nice prizes too, to put it lightly. The parks were as fun as ever and not too crowded thanks to Senor Alberto. Probably the best part was getting to know everyone there during our various activities. Overall, it was a worthwhile experience, I'm glad we were able to attend it, and I hope the rising seniors on my team get to partake in it again next year.
Rounds: In the first round, we came in last mainly due to the superb performance of Virginia and Colorado and also because of negs erasing a lot the few gains we made. On the second day, we played mediocrely during the 5 and 10 point rounds but took off during the 15 point round to achieve a solid victory. The semifinal game turned into a repeat of our first game with negs erasing all the gains we made. In that game we placed 4th, putting us in 10th place overall (if you rank the teams by placing in semifinals and then scores, if you rank by scores alone we placed ninth, not that it matters either way). Our strongest area was the team questions, where we consistently put up high scores. ASCA worksheets were good prep for those.
The Rest of the Tournament: First, I want to thank the PAC officials for the very enjoyable experience they provided. The food was excellent, the awards banquet was top-notch, and I loved Casino Night (lost all my money on the last hand of Blackjack, but still had a good time). Panasonic gave out some very nice prizes too, to put it lightly. The parks were as fun as ever and not too crowded thanks to Senor Alberto. Probably the best part was getting to know everyone there during our various activities. Overall, it was a worthwhile experience, I'm glad we were able to attend it, and I hope the rising seniors on my team get to partake in it again next year.
David John Gagne,
University of Oklahoma
University of Oklahoma