Best Individuals in Illinois

Dormant threads from the high school sections are preserved here.
Locked
TheAngryBavarian
Lulu
Posts: 52
Joined: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:48 pm

Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by TheAngryBavarian »

I haven't seen anybody do this before, so I figured I'd try.

DISCLAIMER: I am not trying to offend anybody, I am merely expressing my opinion. I could probably flip several of these names around depending on the question set. Feel free to debate and post your own thoughts.

1. Ethan Strombeck
2. Hanson Hao
3. Jonathan Lau
4. Kevin Kodama
5. Dylan Bowman
6. Olivia Lamberti
7. Aristotle Vainikos
8. Govind Prabhakar
9. Arjun Nageswaran
10. Matthew Lee
11. Alex Morris
12. John Paul Taylor
13. Abraham Holtermann
14. Luke Tutterow
15A. Myself (Probably too high, but I'm running out of names)
15B. Clara Barclay
16. Nick Morrow
17. Timothy Cho
18. Nick Larson
19. Jess Markley
20. Carter Moore
Zach Roseman
Collinsville (IL) '20
Eastern Illinois University '24
"If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants."-Isaac Newton
User avatar
db0wman
Wakka
Posts: 142
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:37 pm
Location: Champaign, IL

Re: Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by db0wman »

I'm not even the first scorer on my team, so I'm not sure how I'm 5th.
Dylan Bowman
Uni '20; Illinois '23
User avatar
hcube
Lulu
Posts: 19
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:44 pm

Re: Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by hcube »

I also think I'm ranked too high, as Kevin beat me in Solo (going 7-0 in the prelims in the process) and I have never outscored Ethan at any event, so I would have to be at best 3rd. I'm also not the most competent or neg-free generalist (if that's what we're basing these rankings on). I would say that Ethan Ashbrook and Sophie Netzel are notable absences from this list, both of them being on Illinois B last year.

I also want to shill for my teammate Daniel Lee who I think has a reasonable case for being top-20 individually: he is incredibly deep on things he enjoys/has read in the areas of literature, music, philosophy, modern physics, etc.--a very eclectic knowledge base that he is expanding with some grind studying. The best example of his skill I can give you is his upset over Govind at solo this year.
Hanson Hao
IMSA 19
Stanford 23
User avatar
Father of the Ragdoll
Rikku
Posts: 270
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:11 pm
Location: Austin, Texas

Re: Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by Father of the Ragdoll »

The lack of Ethan Ashbrook (Uni's best player) is a bit odd as is Nick Morrow over Tim Cho (no offense to NIck, but Tim scales to college pretty well while Nick seems peak at HS regs).
Brad Maclaine, McLain
(they/them)
The University of Texas at Austin - Ph.D. Human Development and Family Sciences, 202X; M.S. Social Work, 2021
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign - B.S. Psychology, 2019
Rockford Auburn High School - 2015
jzlau2
Lulu
Posts: 31
Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:05 am
Location: Baltimore, MD

Re: Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by jzlau2 »

I think I should be slightly lower on the list, although I was the top scorer on my team at a few 2017-18 season tournaments. This year, I have mostly been a fourth scorer/backup player because I don't have much of a niche on the team. Kevin, Dylan, Tim, Ethan, Olivia, Aristotle, and Govind are objectively better than me based on this year's tournament statistics. I did place fourth at Scobol Solo, but I would say I had as much as a 40-50% chance of going 4-3 and not making finals.
Jonathan Lau
UIUC Laboratory HS 2021
Johns Hopkins 2024
User avatar
Gae Bulg
Lulu
Posts: 16
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:42 am
Contact:

Re: Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by Gae Bulg »

Could we get justifications for these rankings? I find myself disagreeing with many of these and I would like to hear your reasoning.
Danny Kim
Fremd '21
TheAngryBavarian
Lulu
Posts: 52
Joined: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:48 pm

Re: Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by TheAngryBavarian »

This ranking is based on my opinion, which is primarily based on my interpretation of Solo results. In other words, probably not the most precise way of doing this. Feel free to post your own lists.
Zach Roseman
Collinsville (IL) '20
Eastern Illinois University '24
"If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants."-Isaac Newton
User avatar
MichelleYangBHS
Lulu
Posts: 7
Joined: Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:27 pm

Re: Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by MichelleYangBHS »

I'm glad for Abe.
Michelle Yang, 15, Barrington High School
User avatar
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Auron
Posts: 1100
Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 10:03 am

Re: Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by Good Goblin Housekeeping »

obviously your physical location makes things difficult but how many of these players have you actually seen play
Andrew Wang
Illinois 2016
Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Dreams
Wakka
Posts: 129
Joined: Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:05 pm

Re: Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Dreams »

I personally don't trust the results of Solo very much. Scobol Solo has a history of not being the greatest of sets.
Geoffrey Chen
Wayzata High School '19
UMN (dual enrollment) '19
Cornell ???
TheAngryBavarian
Lulu
Posts: 52
Joined: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:48 pm

Re: Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by TheAngryBavarian »

Banned Tiny Toon Adventures Episode wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:53 pm obviously your physical location makes things difficult but how many of these players have you actually seen play
I have played against all who were at South Central Solo and John Paul.
Zach Roseman
Collinsville (IL) '20
Eastern Illinois University '24
"If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants."-Isaac Newton
User avatar
Dominator
Tidus
Posts: 636
Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:16 pm

Re: Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by Dominator »

Iamteehee wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:31 pm I personally don't trust the results of Solo very much. Scobol Solo has a history of not being the greatest of sets.
I don't think that Solo is the best measure of a quizbowler, but question quality is not the issue here. I can't remember a year I was coaching when Solo wasn't in the top half of sets my team heard that year, and some of the years it was definitely one of the best.
Dr. Noah Prince

Normal Community High School (2002)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (2004, 2007, 2008)

Illinois Mathematics and Science Academy - Scholastic Bowl coach (2009-2014), assistant coach (2014-2015), well wisher (2015-2016)
guy in San Diego (2016-present)
President of Qblitz (2018-present)

Image
User avatar
Bloomington
Lulu
Posts: 13
Joined: Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:31 pm

Re: Best Individuals in Illinois

Post by Bloomington »

Any ranks for MSers?
Soren Gjesfjeld

Bloomington ‘24
Writer for IESA State Series
Locked