The 10-Point Shootout (NBA Vanity Tournament)

[rylltraka]

Hello, everybody. Since I've already sort of announced this in the "The Second Summer Open" thread, here's a more official announcement for a tournament I've been pushing towards for a while now: The 10-Point Shootout. This will be a tournament focusing, more or less, on professional basketball in the form of the NBA. The goal is for it to be completed by the beginning of August, as I start to have free time in the next couple weeks.

The tournament as planned will consist of six packets of 20/0 tossups and and an additional 5/0 tiebreakers. The distribution will roughly fit the following:

Contemporary NBA (2010-Present): 15/0
Modern NBA (1990-2010): 28/0
Classic NBA: (1970-1990): 28/0
Pioneers: (Naismith-1970): 12/0
Journalism: 5/0
Basketball Miscellany: 25/0
Pop Culture: 12/0

Most of the answerlines are set. If someone really wants to help out, I'd be fine with that. The planned cost is $5 per person to supply my beer fund. That is all.

[rylltraka]

This tournament is now complete and ready to be sent out to sites willing to run it.

[Cheynem]

I neglected to bring the score sheets home with me. I believe Tejas and Joe Nutter massacred everyone at our site, and I think Andrew Hart/me took second.

[Auks Ran Ova]

Dylan and I won two games, somehow!

[theMoMA]

According to Will, the stats were lost to the sands of time.

I went through the packets and did our stats. We were 4-1 with an average of 97 ppg. I was 11-19-11 for 56 ppg; Mike was 9-8-2 for 41 ppg. Maybe some other folks could do the same for their teams so we could get a somewhat more fulsome picture of the scoring at the event.

[Cheynem]

I had my line as 9/8/2, but I might have just been misremembering where I buzzed on something.

The teams were:

Tejas/Joe: easily the winners, 5-0
Andrew/me: 4-1
Dylan/Rob: 2-3

The other teams were Ryan/Chris/Calvin, Morgan/Harris/Eliza, and Sid/Kenji. I think Chris' team went 3-2, Morgan's team went 1-4, and Sid's team with 0-5.

Tejas would have been the top scorer by a large margin, and I'm sorry I lost the scoresheet showing Tejas' merciless beatdown of Chris Ray's team in Round 4, a massacre that MIchael Jordan would have noted is probably going too far (not that Tejas didn't beat down all the other teams too, but this one was especially brutal).

[theMoMA]

Edited mine to reflect Mike's recollection; I probably just misremembered where he buzzed.

[theMoMA]

Btw, I think it was Morgan's team that went 3-2, but I'm not entirely sure.

[Cheynem]

Oh you're probably right, but I'll wait for some confirmation. I think I mixed up who beat who there.

[grapesmoker]

This was hella fun, thanks Mik!

At the NYC site, we played all six packets shootout-style. I kept score as best I could and the following statistics were compiled which are probably mostly accurate.

Player - 15/10/5 - total points
Yi - 2/8/8 - 70
Richard - 2/7/4 - 80
York - 6/9/1 - 185
Jerry - 16/18/14 - 350
Jeff - 0/6/5 - 35
Jason - 10/16/10 - 260

[Ciorwrong]

Btw, I think it was Morgan's team that went 3-2, but I'm not entirely sure.

We did. We lost to Andrew/Mike and Tejas/Joe.

I really enjoyed this set overall and I thought it brought up a bunch of topics that are not often asked about. My only gripe is how some answerlines were really "demanding" in the sense that you needed to be able to pull a lot of information at game speed which was hard.

All-in-all, I thought this set was excellent and it would be amazing if there was another NBA side event in the future.

[Doga (Dog Yoga)]

will this set be posted soon or are there any other mirrors planned? otherwise I'm sure there's plenty of people like me who couldn't make a mirror who'd be interested in hearing them on irc

[ryanrosenberg]

will this set be posted soon or are there any other mirrors planned? otherwise I'm sure there's plenty of people like me who couldn't make a mirror who'd be interested in hearing them on irc

I would love to play this on IRC.

[rylltraka]

There are potential instantiations of this tournament at side-event tournaments over the next two weekends, I believe. After that I have no problem with reading the packets on the IRC.

[Zealots of Stockholm]

I'll add interest in playing this on IRC.

[The Favourite]

I would definitely play this on the IRC

[Ike]

I read the the game Tejas went off. He went 13-2-2. Joe Nutter went 2-0-0. Tejas and Joe Nutter powered every tossup in the second half over Chris Ray.

Ike

[AKKOLADE]

If I can get into IRC the night it's read, I will play it.

[Jason Cheng]

Mik read us about three rounds of this over Phil's BBQ after the Side Events at UCSD. I don't have any stats, but let it be known that 1) the questions were super fun and a great addition to delicious barbecue (100% true) and 2) I absolutely murdered Justin Nghiem (significantly less true).

[mhayes]

Mik read us about three rounds of this over Phil's BBQ after the Side Events at UCSD. I don't have any stats, but let it be known that 1) the questions were super fun and a great addition to delicious barbecue (100% true) and 2) I absolutely murdered Justin Nghiem (significantly less true).

I am disappointed. I lived in San Diego this summer and I like quiz bowl, BBQ, and basketball. Unless I'm mistaken, no UCSD activities pertaining to Side Event Weekend were ever announced on the forums beforehand, otherwise I would have participated.

Please remember this for the future. The forums exist to inform the community of such activity.

[Jason Cheng]

Mik read us about three rounds of this over Phil's BBQ after the Side Events at UCSD. I don't have any stats, but let it be known that 1) the questions were super fun and a great addition to delicious barbecue (100% true) and 2) I absolutely murdered Justin Nghiem (significantly less true).

I am disappointed. I lived in San Diego this summer and I like quiz bowl, BBQ, and basketball. Unless I'm mistaken, no UCSD activities pertaining to Side Event Weekend were ever announced on the forums beforehand, otherwise I would have participated.

Please remember this for the future. The forums exist to inform the community of such activity.

Sorry, that's my bad. The idea to even hold the side events at UCSD only germinated a week ago, and was informal to the point where it completely slipped my mind to advertise this on the forums, as I didn't expect many people to actually be available or in the area for this event besides the members of our club, some high school players, and maybe like three alumni (as the Listory and ARTSEE stats I've uploaded suggest).

Again, I apologize for this, and hope I can make it up to you at some point in the future

[mhayes]

No worries. I didn't mean to come across so grumpy in my post. It's just something to keep in mind, especially for a city like San Diego with a large number of transient residents.

[The Ununtiable Twine]

No worries. I didn't mean to come across so grumpy in my post. It's just something to keep in mind, especially for a city like San Diego with a large number of transient residents.

WELL NOW I CAN CHALLENGE YOU TO A SKYPE MIRROR ONE ON ONE

[Mightyrodrigo]

I would be down to playing this on skype

[rylltraka]

For anyone who's interested, I'm going to have an open shootout over Skype sometime in the next week or so, hopefully. More information upcoming.

[rylltraka]

All right, I will read the set to any interested parties tomorrow evening (8/23) starting at 5 PM west coast time (8 Eastern). Please meet in the IRC and we'll deal with the logistics there.

[Mightyrodrigo]

All right, I will read the set to any interested parties tomorrow evening (8/23) starting at 5 PM west coast time (8 Eastern). Please meet in the IRC and we'll deal with the logistics there.

What's the IRC? I've never used that before I think.

[rylltraka]

https://www.qbwiki.com/wiki/view/IRC

[AKKOLADE]

I will do my best to attend this, though it depends on my ability to put together the basis of a good presentation on hepatitis C drugs in the next two hours.

[rylltraka]

Don't worry Fred, I know you will de-liver.

[ryanrosenberg]

I will do my best to attend this, though it depends on my ability to put together the basis of a good presentation on hepatitis C drugs in the next two hours.

If you can't, I'd be happy to play this against you some other time. I have work until 8 MST and can't make it.

[AKKOLADE]

Don't worry Fred, I know you will de-liver.

ahhh a pharmacy pun, just what i needed

[AKKOLADE]

I will do my best to attend this, though it depends on my ability to put together the basis of a good presentation on hepatitis C drugs in the next two hours.

If you can't, I'd be happy to play this against you some other time. I have work until 8 MST and can't make it.

I probably won't be able to stay for the full run (I'll guess about an hour), so maybe we can play the remaining packets?

[rylltraka]

On Tuesday we played the first three packets in IRC. Scores were:

Player - 15/10/5 - total points
Fred (first two packets) - 6/6/9 - 105
Rohith - 0/1/3 - -5
Jason Cheng (half of packet 3) - 2/1/0 - 40
Rodrigo - 3/1/5 - 30
Naveed - 8/12/8 - 200
Chris Manners - 1/1/0 - 25
Chandler - 2/7/7 - 65
Steven - 0/2/2 - 10

The remaining three packets will be read in the IRC on Thursday (8/25) at 5 PM Pacific, 8 Eastern.

[AKKOLADE]

The couple of rounds I played were very fun. I hope I can make it back to play the rest Thursday, but if I don't, I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed it.

Coincidentally, my laptop crashed about a half hour later, so that's a good way for that hard drive to go out.

[rylltraka]

On Thursday we played the final three packets in IRC. Scores were:

Player - 15/10/5 - total points
Jason Cheng - 4/13/4 - 170
Rodrigo - 6/3/6 - 90
Naveed (two packets)- 7/6/4 - 145
Chandler - 1/2/10 - -5
Daniel H. - 4/5/4 - 90
Matt H. - 1/2/4 - 5

Packets will be uploaded after the potential September mirror is off the table.

[rylltraka]

The packet set (with some minor edits) has been uploaded to the database, along with developer commentary that I added after pretty much every question. I'm willing to say this tournament is now clear. If there's anything about it you'd like to discuss, you may do so here.