MÖRE WEIGHT
MÖRE WEIGHT
I am playing the main event of the day (NASAT Mirror) with Lil' Aayushy (TM). But also:
With Aayush's tacit (yet vaguely disapproving) consent, I am announcing a guerrilla side event for this day, Mocking Eventacronymswhichare Really Execrable, Which Even I Got Hate Towards (MORE WEIGHT). The rules of MORE WEIGHT, which go to 11, are as follows:
1. Do Not Talk About MORE WEIGHT
2. Do Not Talk About MORE WEIGHT
3. Questions can be written in either English or French. Any other language, we'll use google translate and then read hilarity in English.
4. Writers should write 10 TUs, no Bonuses, for their QUESTION PACK
5. There is NO DISTRIBUTION and NO PRESCRIBED QUESTION LENGTH, but normal rules of "Good Quizbowl" such as Pyramidality and Differentiability Apply
6. Games of 10 TUs each are played shootout style (1 player one buzz) up to 4 negs; players can buzz twice but a 2nd neg is -10
7. The goal of the writer is to make the questions so difficult that no one can answer, necessitating an answerable 11th TB on metaquizbowl (Canadian meta!)
8. Questions must be on actual things, such that they would be expected to have a Wikipedia page. The goal is to find legitimate answer lines which will go dead; do NOT write on your pet, what you have in your pocket, an event only you were at, your bus stop, the Wikipedia page on Human-Goat Sex (now removed but always in our hearts), etc. Also do not write Byzantine answerlines (the style, not the period, Jay!) which are something along the lines of "Abandoned government-owned Coast Guard boats located in abandoned fishing villages in Newfoundland named after Queens" (Jay!). Nothing creepy, libel/slanderous/defamatory, uninclusive, or turning Steinbeck's masterpiece into some sort of monstrosity. Buffet questions optional.
9. NO MASHUPS! WE HATE MASHUPS!!! If you try to be funny, like Michael Servetus, and go to Geneva anyway, I will literally burn your questions at the stake (like Michael Servetus)
10. The event is free and guerrilla which means that it will likely last about one second before waking dreaming about flights of wasps around mangosteens (it won't take long)
11. There MAY be prizes
EDIT: This was split off from another thread; edited for context in first sentence.
With Aayush's tacit (yet vaguely disapproving) consent, I am announcing a guerrilla side event for this day, Mocking Eventacronymswhichare Really Execrable, Which Even I Got Hate Towards (MORE WEIGHT). The rules of MORE WEIGHT, which go to 11, are as follows:
1. Do Not Talk About MORE WEIGHT
2. Do Not Talk About MORE WEIGHT
3. Questions can be written in either English or French. Any other language, we'll use google translate and then read hilarity in English.
4. Writers should write 10 TUs, no Bonuses, for their QUESTION PACK
5. There is NO DISTRIBUTION and NO PRESCRIBED QUESTION LENGTH, but normal rules of "Good Quizbowl" such as Pyramidality and Differentiability Apply
6. Games of 10 TUs each are played shootout style (1 player one buzz) up to 4 negs; players can buzz twice but a 2nd neg is -10
7. The goal of the writer is to make the questions so difficult that no one can answer, necessitating an answerable 11th TB on metaquizbowl (Canadian meta!)
8. Questions must be on actual things, such that they would be expected to have a Wikipedia page. The goal is to find legitimate answer lines which will go dead; do NOT write on your pet, what you have in your pocket, an event only you were at, your bus stop, the Wikipedia page on Human-Goat Sex (now removed but always in our hearts), etc. Also do not write Byzantine answerlines (the style, not the period, Jay!) which are something along the lines of "Abandoned government-owned Coast Guard boats located in abandoned fishing villages in Newfoundland named after Queens" (Jay!). Nothing creepy, libel/slanderous/defamatory, uninclusive, or turning Steinbeck's masterpiece into some sort of monstrosity. Buffet questions optional.
9. NO MASHUPS! WE HATE MASHUPS!!! If you try to be funny, like Michael Servetus, and go to Geneva anyway, I will literally burn your questions at the stake (like Michael Servetus)
10. The event is free and guerrilla which means that it will likely last about one second before waking dreaming about flights of wasps around mangosteens (it won't take long)
11. There MAY be prizes
EDIT: This was split off from another thread; edited for context in first sentence.
Last edited by minusfive on Wed May 27, 2015 5:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
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Re: NASAT mirror at uWaterloo (27th June)
Sadly, it is true. I did foolishly approve this, and so MORE WEIGHT will be happening following the NASAT mirror on Saturday. Get writing, people!
Aayush Rajasekaran (he/him or she/her)
University of Waterloo, 2016
University of Waterloo, 2018
University of Waterloo, 2016
University of Waterloo, 2018
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Re: NASAT mirror at uWaterloo (27th June)
I'm very certain people would prefer my packet if I wrote about cool, illegitimate things like the CN tower collapse rather than 10 dull tossups on actual impossible things.minusfive wrote: Questions must be on actual things, such that they would be expected to have a Wikipedia page. The goal is to find legitimate answer lines which will go dead; do NOT write on your pet, what you have in your pocket, an event only you were at, your bus stop, the Wikipedia page on Human-Goat Sex (now removed but always in our hearts), etc. Also do not write Byzantine answerlines (the style, not the period, Jay!) which are something along the lines of "Abandoned government-owned Coast Guard boats located in abandoned fishing villages in Newfoundland named after Queens" (Jay!). Nothing creepy, libel/slanderous/defamatory, uninclusive, or turning Steinbeck's masterpiece into some sort of monstrosity. Buffet questions optional.
Joe Su, OCT
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Re: NASAT mirror at uWaterloo (27th June)
doesn't that spell out MEREWEIGHT?
Andrew Wang
Illinois 2016
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Re: NASAT mirror at uWaterloo (27th June)
This way it's easier to follow the rules.Black Miao wrote:doesn't that spell out MEREWEIGHT?
Patrick Liao
Lisgar Collegiate Institute 2011, University of Pennsylvania 2015, University of Toronto Faculty of Law 2019
Lisgar Collegiate Institute 2011, University of Pennsylvania 2015, University of Toronto Faculty of Law 2019
Re: NASAT mirror at uWaterloo (27th June)
Touche. In addition to being an awesome tournament, it's also a paradoxical one.Black Miao wrote:doesn't that spell out MEREWEIGHT?
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Re: NASAT mirror at uWaterloo (27th June)
For MERE/MOREWEIGHT, who/where do we send the completed packets to? Also, where do we draw the line between the legitimate and the ridiculous?
Peter Cordeiro
McMaster University, 2019 +/-1
Interim President of the ONQBA
Newest Accomplishment: SCT @ Waterloo - Scored over 40PPG on a Full Team
McMaster University, 2019 +/-1
Interim President of the ONQBA
Newest Accomplishment: SCT @ Waterloo - Scored over 40PPG on a Full Team
Re: NASAT mirror at uWaterloo (27th June)
I hope you know things about Norwegian reality televisionPeter13 wrote:For MERE/MOREWEIGHT, who/where do we send the completed packets to? Also, where do we draw the line between the legitimate and the ridiculous?
Aaron Dos Remedios
Formerly of the Waterloo School of Abstruse Canadian Inside Jokes (University of Waterloo)
Formerly of the Waterloo School of Abstruse Canadian Inside Jokes (University of Waterloo)
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Re: NASAT mirror at uWaterloo (27th June)
Okay, the least you could do is write that TU on Så mycket bättre instead! Like, that's the famous one!adosreme wrote:I hope you know things about Norwegian reality televisionPeter13 wrote:For MERE/MOREWEIGHT, who/where do we send the completed packets to? Also, where do we draw the line between the legitimate and the ridiculous?
Aayush Rajasekaran (he/him or she/her)
University of Waterloo, 2016
University of Waterloo, 2018
University of Waterloo, 2016
University of Waterloo, 2018
Re: NASAT mirror at uWaterloo (27th June)
if you want to further discuss the sub-tournament, please start another thread.
Mike Cheyne
Formerly U of Minnesota
"You killed HSAPQ"--Matt Bollinger
Formerly U of Minnesota
"You killed HSAPQ"--Matt Bollinger
Re: NASAT mirror at uWaterloo (27th June)
Hi Mike, sounds great. Could you please split it off, so that the above discussion comes with it (and so I can quote-answer Peter's question, above)?Cheynem wrote:if you want to further discuss the sub-tournament, please start another thread.
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
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Re: NASAT mirror at uWaterloo (27th June)
Done!minusfive wrote:Hi Mike, sounds great. Could you please split it off, so that the above discussion comes with it (and so I can quote-answer Peter's question, above)?Cheynem wrote:if you want to further discuss the sub-tournament, please start another thread.
Rob Carson
University of Minnesota '11, MCTC '??, BHSU forever
Member, ACF
Member emeritus, PACE
Writer and Editor, NAQT
University of Minnesota '11, MCTC '??, BHSU forever
Member, ACF
Member emeritus, PACE
Writer and Editor, NAQT
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
Hi Peter,
For a guerrilla tournament like this, you don't need to submit it to anyone first. Just bring it the day of (flash drive works best). Letting people know you're bringing one helps, though.
For a guerrilla tournament like this, you don't need to submit it to anyone first. Just bring it the day of (flash drive works best). Letting people know you're bringing one helps, though.
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
- Fado Alexandrino
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Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
I am submitting a packet to this event. Most people will have heard of none of the answer lines, but that's okay.
Joe Su, OCT
Lisgar 2012, McGill 2015, McGill 2019, Queen's 2020
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Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
Uninclusive in what sense? I can't imagine writing an all inclusive hard ass-set that will include the entire playing field.minusfive wrote: Nothing uninclusive
Joe Su, OCT
Lisgar 2012, McGill 2015, McGill 2019, Queen's 2020
Lisgar 2012, McGill 2015, McGill 2019, Queen's 2020
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
If you could expect to see it at a mainstream tournament of amazingly high difficulty, do it. If you can see yourself mocked by the "quizbowl community" for writing it, and you think that the ridicule would be legitimate, then steer clear!Peter13 wrote:where do we draw the line between the legitimate and the ridiculous?
Also, although there is no distribution, the rounds are not intended to torture people. Please vary distribution at least a little bit; 10 questions on Norwegian tv shows (or 10 Norwegian anything TUs, really) are not banned but not recommended.
NOT A THING.The Last 21 Stanley Cup Winners wrote:I am submitting a packet to this event. Most people will have heard of none of the answer lines, but that's okay.
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
I mean nothing along the lines of insulting/denigrating people of a particular group/worldview, a la Modern World. Feel free to not include answerable questions, as that is the point.The Last 21 Stanley Cup Winners wrote:Uninclusive in what sense? I can't imagine writing an all inclusive hard ass-set that will include the entire playing field.minusfive wrote: Nothing uninclusive
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
I've completed my MORE WEIGHT pack; I can't send it to anybody, but I'm happy to do private readings for any interested (and non-attending at Waterloo's NASAT) parties.
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
I will take the zero responses as a no; if anyone wants to contribute a pack from the States (or a non-attendee pack), let me know.
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
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Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
Can we get an estimate of how many packets this tournament will likely have?
Aayush Rajasekaran (he/him or she/her)
University of Waterloo, 2016
University of Waterloo, 2018
University of Waterloo, 2016
University of Waterloo, 2018
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
So far we have 2 confirmed packets (mine and Joe's), with assumed packets from Aaron, Peter Cordeiro (man) and yourself. I have racially profiled Jay (quizbowler is a race, right?) for a grand total of 6.
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
I would therefore budget about 60 minutes for this.
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
Wait, Aaron is writing a packet for this? From what I heard, he wasn't interested in participating in it.minusfive wrote:with assumed packets from Aaron
Peter Cordeiro
McMaster University, 2019 +/-1
Interim President of the ONQBA
Newest Accomplishment: SCT @ Waterloo - Scored over 40PPG on a Full Team
McMaster University, 2019 +/-1
Interim President of the ONQBA
Newest Accomplishment: SCT @ Waterloo - Scored over 40PPG on a Full Team
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
I am also writing a pack for this.
Rein Otsason
University of Toronto BASc 1T6 + PEY
University of Toronto MASc 2T0
University of Toronto PhD 2T?
University of Toronto BASc 1T6 + PEY
University of Toronto MASc 2T0
University of Toronto PhD 2T?
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Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
I will assume this was primarily aimed at me, and will have a pack for this.minusfive wrote:if anyone wants to contribute a pack from the States
Adam Swift
RIT, 2015
RIT, 2015
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
Yeah, writing tossups that are specifically designed to be so hard that they go dead doesn't seem like my kind of thing, as is playing them (especially if it overlaps with Grames trash).Peter13 wrote:Wait, Aaron is writing a packet for this? From what I heard, he wasn't interested in participating in it.minusfive wrote:with assumed packets from Aaron
Aaron Dos Remedios
Formerly of the Waterloo School of Abstruse Canadian Inside Jokes (University of Waterloo)
Formerly of the Waterloo School of Abstruse Canadian Inside Jokes (University of Waterloo)
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
otsasonr wrote:I am also writing a pack for this.
Awesome Awesome Awesome.aswift wrote:I will assume this was primarily aimed at me, and will have a pack for this.minusfive wrote:if anyone wants to contribute a pack from the States
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
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Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
Because of I probably won't finish my packet on time. I have 5 questions ready to go, if someone wants to combine a packet that would be great.
Joe Su, OCT
Lisgar 2012, McGill 2015, McGill 2019, Queen's 2020
Lisgar 2012, McGill 2015, McGill 2019, Queen's 2020
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Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
With permission, I would be very interested in Skyping in to play this. I'm also more than willing to write a pack if one is needed.
The Nick Penner
Waterloo Collegiate Institute '10
Carleton University '15
Waterloo Collegiate Institute '10
Carleton University '15
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
What does that emoticon even mean? It appears to be a capybara. Are capybaras (capybarae?) interfering with your writing? Nick, this looks like a golden opportunity to write 5 (we would love you to write a pack) and pair with Joe. E'rebody wins!
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
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Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
I can confirm that I'm working with Joe on a pack, and that we'll be the best tag team since the Mega Powers.minusfive wrote:Nick, this looks like a golden opportunity to write 5 (we would love you to write a pack) and pair with Joe. E'rebody wins!
The Nick Penner
Waterloo Collegiate Institute '10
Carleton University '15
Waterloo Collegiate Institute '10
Carleton University '15
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
If this does not happen at the same time as trash, I would be happy to read for it.
Brian McNamara
Western University '13
University of Waterloo '14
Temple University '20
Western University '13
University of Waterloo '14
Temple University '20
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Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
W00t, 9/10 of my questions were unanswered. Congrats to Brian M for knowing classical music pedagogy (though it was by far the easiest of my 10 questions; I'm sure JL and Jacob and Shan would have known some more)
Joe Su, OCT
Lisgar 2012, McGill 2015, McGill 2019, Queen's 2020
Lisgar 2012, McGill 2015, McGill 2019, Queen's 2020
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
We read 7 packets, by Jordan, Adam, Peter C., Rein, Joe, Paul (Google Translated from Polish), and Derek (not actually MOREWEIGHT, since the questions were hard but not impossible visual art).
Here are the results (10/-5/-10 total):
Derek 4/0/0 40
Erik 4/2/0 30
Jay 3/1/0 25
Peter L. 3/1/0 25
Aidan 2/0/0 20
Benzene 2/1/0 15
Brian L. 1/0/0 10
Faith 1/0/0 10
Peter C. 1/0/0 10
Brian M. 1/1/0 5
Jordan 1/1/0 5
Sebastian 1/1/0 5
Aaron 0/1/0 -5
Aayush 0/1/0 -5
Luka 0/1/0 -5
Rein 1/3/1 -15
Here are the results (10/-5/-10 total):
Derek 4/0/0 40
Erik 4/2/0 30
Jay 3/1/0 25
Peter L. 3/1/0 25
Aidan 2/0/0 20
Benzene 2/1/0 15
Brian L. 1/0/0 10
Faith 1/0/0 10
Peter C. 1/0/0 10
Brian M. 1/1/0 5
Jordan 1/1/0 5
Sebastian 1/1/0 5
Aaron 0/1/0 -5
Aayush 0/1/0 -5
Luka 0/1/0 -5
Rein 1/3/1 -15
Ming-Ho Yee
Northeastern University
Formerly University of Waterloo
Northeastern University
Formerly University of Waterloo
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
Just wanted to say a huge THANK YOU to all of our pack writers, Adam Swift, Rein Otsason, Peter Cordeiro, Paul Kasinski (whose pack was awesomely Google-translated from Polish "In 10 points, replace"), Joe Su, and Derek So. The packets were well-written and very enjoyable! Thanks also to Brian McNamara for reading Paul's pack and to Ming-Ho Yee for tirelessly (when anyone else would have been very tired) recording the scores.
Congrats to the people who "won," and hope to see you all at what one participant urged should be "EVEN MORE WEIGHT"!
Congrats to the people who "won," and hope to see you all at what one participant urged should be "EVEN MORE WEIGHT"!
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
This was significantly more fun than I was expecting it to be. I would like to thank especially Peter Cordeiro for his packet, and not Joe Su, who keeps going out of his way to remind me about that one time I confused Carl Orff with Hans Zimmer.
Derek So
McGill
McGill
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
Here's the non-painting visual art pack I read. It wasn't originally written for MORE WEIGHT and therefore wasn't written to be ungettable.
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Derek So
McGill
McGill
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
Here is the packet that I wrote for MOREWEIGHT.
EDIT:
EDIT:
I thought it would be known given the context, but I have edited it to make it clearer.bsmith wrote:To correct you, I referred to a dark age of Canadian quizbowl.
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Peter Cordeiro
McMaster University, 2019 +/-1
Interim President of the ONQBA
Newest Accomplishment: SCT @ Waterloo - Scored over 40PPG on a Full Team
McMaster University, 2019 +/-1
Interim President of the ONQBA
Newest Accomplishment: SCT @ Waterloo - Scored over 40PPG on a Full Team
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
To correct you, I referred to a dark age of Canadian quizbowl.Peter13 wrote:Here is the packet that I wrote for MOREWEIGHT.
Ben Smith
Ottawa '08 & '10
Ottawa '08 & '10
Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
I don't have any, other than my own (and Paul's, but I don't have his permission to disseminate it). If people send them to me and consent I would gladly post them, or alternatively they can post them here themselves.vinteuil wrote:Will the packets be posted?
Jordan Palmer, Nick Penner's Hero.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
Pass by, and curse thy fill, but pass and stay not here thy gait.
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Re: MÖRE WEIGHT
Here is my pack
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Adam Swift
RIT, 2015
RIT, 2015