HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Fred Morlan
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
I've also listed every single team - all 1500+ - by their best aPPB here. This is not an official ranking. I just thought it'd be a good way to see a kind of snapshot of where, roughly, each team stands, including teams from less notable states.
Best aPPB from one team from each state, where possible:
Alabama - Spain Park A, 103
Arizona - Desert Vista A, 97
Arkansas - Parkview Arts and Science A, 849
California - Arcadia A, 10 (though this is probably really Bellarmine A)
Connecticut - Newtown A, 106
Delaware - Wilmington Charter A, 13
Florida - Pensacola A, 181
Georgia - Norcross A, 12
Idaho - Treasure Valley Math & Science A, 166
Illinois - Loyola A, 2
Indiana - St. Joseph A, 25
Iowa - Sioux City Heelan B, 662
Kansas - Wichita East B, 912
Kentucky - duPont Manual A, 32
Louisiana - Jesuit A, 82
Maryland - Montgomery Blair A, 7
Massachusetts - Lexington A, 108
Michigan - Detroit Catholic Central A, 6
Minnesota - Wayzata A, 19
Mississippi - St. Andrew's A, 120
Missouri - Ladue A, 1
Nebraska - South Sioux City A, 1549
New Hampshire - Hanover A, 84
New Jersey - St. Joseph A, 28
New York - Hunter A, 17
North Carolina - East Chapel Hill A, 18
North Dakota - West Fargo B, 459
Ohio - Northmont A, 24
Oklahoma - Edmond Memorial A, 290
Pennsylvania - State College A, 56
South Carolina - Dorman A, 5
South Dakota - Brandon Valley B, 344
Tennessee - Ezell-Harding A, 44
Texas - Cistercian A, 3
Vermont - South Burlington A, 145
Virginia - Thomas Jefferson A, 17
West Virginia - George Washington A, 193
Wisconsin - Stoughton A, 180
Best aPPB from one team from each state, where possible:
Alabama - Spain Park A, 103
Arizona - Desert Vista A, 97
Arkansas - Parkview Arts and Science A, 849
California - Arcadia A, 10 (though this is probably really Bellarmine A)
Connecticut - Newtown A, 106
Delaware - Wilmington Charter A, 13
Florida - Pensacola A, 181
Georgia - Norcross A, 12
Idaho - Treasure Valley Math & Science A, 166
Illinois - Loyola A, 2
Indiana - St. Joseph A, 25
Iowa - Sioux City Heelan B, 662
Kansas - Wichita East B, 912
Kentucky - duPont Manual A, 32
Louisiana - Jesuit A, 82
Maryland - Montgomery Blair A, 7
Massachusetts - Lexington A, 108
Michigan - Detroit Catholic Central A, 6
Minnesota - Wayzata A, 19
Mississippi - St. Andrew's A, 120
Missouri - Ladue A, 1
Nebraska - South Sioux City A, 1549
New Hampshire - Hanover A, 84
New Jersey - St. Joseph A, 28
New York - Hunter A, 17
North Carolina - East Chapel Hill A, 18
North Dakota - West Fargo B, 459
Ohio - Northmont A, 24
Oklahoma - Edmond Memorial A, 290
Pennsylvania - State College A, 56
South Carolina - Dorman A, 5
South Dakota - Brandon Valley B, 344
Tennessee - Ezell-Harding A, 44
Texas - Cistercian A, 3
Vermont - South Burlington A, 145
Virginia - Thomas Jefferson A, 17
West Virginia - George Washington A, 193
Wisconsin - Stoughton A, 180
Fred Morlan
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Many thanks for all the work you're doing, Fred.
Cistercian "A" - 2nd place, 5th place, 3rd place -- whichever it is
isn't really that big a deal.
When we all come together at Nationals, things will sort themselves
out -- as they always do.
Cistercian "B" and Cistercian "C" are also pretty happy to see where
they stack up, too.
So, once again, thanks for all the work!
Cistercian "A" - 2nd place, 5th place, 3rd place -- whichever it is
isn't really that big a deal.
When we all come together at Nationals, things will sort themselves
out -- as they always do.
Cistercian "B" and Cistercian "C" are also pretty happy to see where
they stack up, too.
So, once again, thanks for all the work!
Gregory Schweers
County of Dallas
City of Irving
Cistercian Preparatory School Team
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County of Dallas
City of Irving
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
New rankings will be up in about an hour.
Fred Morlan
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
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former PACE member, president, etc.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Is there going to be another big PPB compilation soon, or will that be after another set of rankings?
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Minor little quibble, but in case my school administration sees and gets livid, it's Western Albemarle without the "r" in the middle. Also, still baffled as to how playing no tournaments as a team except VHSL for the last 6 months can have us ranked, but I'll take it I suppose.
Eric Xu
Western Albemarle '15
Virginia '19
Harvard '23
Western Albemarle '15
Virginia '19
Harvard '23
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
I fixed that (and the bold tag that wasn't closed). If any administrators actually freaked out about that, then kindly ask them to stare at an Excel sheet of data for about 6 hours total, and then to type anything reliably.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
If any school's administration ever looks at these, then you deserve a Gatorade shower.
And for said administration, my question is, shouldn't you be spending your time on something that's, you know, loosely related to what you're actually paid to do?
Also, AGH now I want to win more matches in order to immortalize my team in the hearts and minds of quizbowlers worldwide.
And for said administration, my question is, shouldn't you be spending your time on something that's, you know, loosely related to what you're actually paid to do?
Also, AGH now I want to win more matches in order to immortalize my team in the hearts and minds of quizbowlers worldwide.
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Carbondale Community High School '15
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
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Oh, hey, look, that wasn't my 'the Internet is serious business' voice, that was my 'semi-sarcastic and aimed at showing how I don't place more stock in these rankings than anyone should, and furthermore, look how much of a light-hearted and generally OK and fun guy I can be when the situation warrants it' voice. You must have gotten them mixed up! Sorry for the confusion!
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Carbondale Community High School '15
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Keep your expectations low.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
I'm going to call for some increased decorum in this thread before rules-skirting becomes something I need to start issuing warnings about.
To take off the moderator hat for a second, I think a large part of the worth of the excellent work Fred is doing here is to give teams something to show to their administrators when they're trying to get money and/or permission to do things, so wanting your name correct is an eminently reasonable if perhaps not super urgent concern. I always make sure to correct school names and locations on the pages of PACE's site I'm involved in updating if someone mentions an inaccuracy to me in keeping with the same philosophy.
To take off the moderator hat for a second, I think a large part of the worth of the excellent work Fred is doing here is to give teams something to show to their administrators when they're trying to get money and/or permission to do things, so wanting your name correct is an eminently reasonable if perhaps not super urgent concern. I always make sure to correct school names and locations on the pages of PACE's site I'm involved in updating if someone mentions an inaccuracy to me in keeping with the same philosophy.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
I mean, my concern really wasn't about my position at all (I'm shocked to even be ranked), but just to make sure our school sees our name spelled correctly if I ever have to show them our ranking to get funding for either national tournament, neither of which we are currently going to right now. Carbondale doesn't have that problem I don't think, and hopefully within a couple of years I'll be able to get ample funding so that I won't have to show anyone these rankings either (not that these rankings aren't amazing, and I appreciate all the work that Fred puts into them).thyringe_supine wrote:Oh, hey, look, that wasn't my 'the Internet is serious business' voice, that was my 'semi-sarcastic and aimed at showing how I don't place more stock in these rankings than anyone should, and furthermore, look how much of a light-hearted and generally OK and fun guy I can be when the situation warrants it' voice. You must have gotten them mixed up! Sorry for the confusion!
Eric Xu
Western Albemarle '15
Virginia '19
Harvard '23
Western Albemarle '15
Virginia '19
Harvard '23
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
You're cool; it's a legit request and there's nothing wrong with making it. I apologize if I came off as overly flippant.Einhard wrote:I mean, my concern really wasn't about my position at all (I'm shocked to even be ranked), but just to make sure our school sees our name spelled correctly if I ever have to show them our ranking to get funding for either national tournament, neither of which we are currently going to right now. Carbondale doesn't have that problem I don't think, and hopefully within a couple of years I'll be able to get ample funding so that I won't have to show anyone these rankings either (not that these rankings aren't amazing, and I appreciate all the work that Fred puts into them).
I hope it does help you get funding; that's a secondary goal of running them.
Fred Morlan
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former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
No . . .Einhard wrote:I mean, my concern really wasn't about my position at all (I'm shocked to even be ranked), but just to make sure our school sees our name spelled correctly if I ever have to show them our ranking to get funding for either national tournament, neither of which we are currently going to right now. Carbondale doesn't have that problem I don't think, and hopefully within a couple of years I'll be able to get ample funding so that I won't have to show anyone these rankings either (not that these rankings aren't amazing, and I appreciate all the work that Fred puts into them).thyringe_supine wrote:Oh, hey, look, that wasn't my 'the Internet is serious business' voice, that was my 'semi-sarcastic and aimed at showing how I don't place more stock in these rankings than anyone should, and furthermore, look how much of a light-hearted and generally OK and fun guy I can be when the situation warrants it' voice. You must have gotten them mixed up! Sorry for the confusion!
I wasn't directing that at you.
Also, I don't exactly see how showing school administrators your position in these rankings will realistically net your program more funding. For one, at what opportunity would you present them with it? Do you go and email it to them or something? Also, even if they do see them, how do you explain to them that it actually matters? In my experience, achievements that impress non-quizbowl players are almost never the ones that you're actually proud of.Fred wrote:You're cool; it's a legit request and there's nothing wrong with making it. I apologize if I came off as overly flippant.Einhard wrote:I mean, my concern really wasn't about my position at all (I'm shocked to even be ranked), but just to make sure our school sees our name spelled correctly if I ever have to show them our ranking to get funding for either national tournament, neither of which we are currently going to right now. Carbondale doesn't have that problem I don't think, and hopefully within a couple of years I'll be able to get ample funding so that I won't have to show anyone these rankings either (not that these rankings aren't amazing, and I appreciate all the work that Fred puts into them).
I hope it does help you get funding; that's a secondary goal of running them.
Besides, even if your school does give cash on a merit basis, they shouldn't be doing it based on this. While it's a good tool and very well done, pretty much any sort of statistics project like this is, at least to me, worth next-to-nothing compared to actual games and tournament finishes.
James Zetterman
Carbondale Community High School '15
SIU Carbondale '19 or thereabouts
Keep your expectations low.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
I could refer them to the rankings on the main HSQB rank website and show that we've been making improvements through the year and deserve to have the chance to compete at a national event at all, for one matter. They've hardly been impressed by any type of VHSL or other tournament results we've shown them, so maybe something a little bigger than that would change their minds. It's not even an issue of obtaining funding (seeing as we get none for non-VHSL events) as it is an issue of getting any kind of permission at all, as they won't even provide liability coverage for our coach to come with us on a potential NSC trip. I was just hoping some extra legitimacy might be helpful and regardless of how you feel about these rankings, school administrators do like seeing them. I would personally love nothing more than to just show tournament finishes, but that's not really working.
Eric Xu
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
But my question would be how you can effectively communicate to non-quizbowlers that they should care, and, you know, that you're not making this whole thing up.
James Zetterman
Carbondale Community High School '15
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Links? Giving them emails of people within the community? School prestige? Trying to convey to them my love of the game and its importance? I do my best :) Sorry for thread derail though, this is supposed to be a rankings page.....
Eric Xu
Western Albemarle '15
Virginia '19
Harvard '23
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
I've been told a few times that it actually has got teams funding.thyringe_supine wrote:No . . .Einhard wrote:I mean, my concern really wasn't about my position at all (I'm shocked to even be ranked), but just to make sure our school sees our name spelled correctly if I ever have to show them our ranking to get funding for either national tournament, neither of which we are currently going to right now. Carbondale doesn't have that problem I don't think, and hopefully within a couple of years I'll be able to get ample funding so that I won't have to show anyone these rankings either (not that these rankings aren't amazing, and I appreciate all the work that Fred puts into them).thyringe_supine wrote:Oh, hey, look, that wasn't my 'the Internet is serious business' voice, that was my 'semi-sarcastic and aimed at showing how I don't place more stock in these rankings than anyone should, and furthermore, look how much of a light-hearted and generally OK and fun guy I can be when the situation warrants it' voice. You must have gotten them mixed up! Sorry for the confusion!
I wasn't directing that at you.Also, I don't exactly see how showing school administrators your position in these rankings will realistically net your program more funding. For one, at what opportunity would you present them with it? Do you go and email it to them or something? Also, even if they do see them, how do you explain to them that it actually matters? In my experience, achievements that impress non-quizbowl players are almost never the ones that you're actually proud of.Fred wrote:You're cool; it's a legit request and there's nothing wrong with making it. I apologize if I came off as overly flippant.Einhard wrote:I mean, my concern really wasn't about my position at all (I'm shocked to even be ranked), but just to make sure our school sees our name spelled correctly if I ever have to show them our ranking to get funding for either national tournament, neither of which we are currently going to right now. Carbondale doesn't have that problem I don't think, and hopefully within a couple of years I'll be able to get ample funding so that I won't have to show anyone these rankings either (not that these rankings aren't amazing, and I appreciate all the work that Fred puts into them).
I hope it does help you get funding; that's a secondary goal of running them.
Besides, even if your school does give cash on a merit basis, they shouldn't be doing it based on this. While it's a good tool and very well done, pretty much any sort of statistics project like this is, at least to me, worth next-to-nothing compared to actual games and tournament finishes.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
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former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
I think he's probably got a pretty good start by not being a complete idiot who always posts complete crap on HSQB.thyringe_supine wrote:But my question would be how you can effectively communicate to non-quizbowlers that they should care, and, you know, that you're not making this whole thing up.
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Zing!SirT wrote:I think he's probably got a pretty good start by not being a complete idiot who always posts complete crap on HSQB.thyringe_supine wrote:But my question would be how you can effectively communicate to non-quizbowlers that they should care, and, you know, that you're not making this whole thing up.
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Well, if you feel jumping the bureaucracy like that isn't probably going to blow up in your face somehow, then go for it. However, while I don't have much to back this up with, my guess is that in most cases, particularly with public schools, success and funding do not go hand-in-hand like we sometimes wish they would. So, basically, my impression is that in such maneuvers, your mileage may vary. A lot.
@Fred Huh. Maybe I should try it. I don't know.
@Fred Huh. Maybe I should try it. I don't know.
If you have beef with me, please don't pollute this thread with expression of said beef.SirT wrote:I think he's probably got a pretty good start by not being a complete idiot who always posts complete crap on HSQB.thyringe_supine wrote:But my question would be how you can effectively communicate to non-quizbowlers that they should care, and, you know, that you're not making this whole thing up.
James Zetterman
Carbondale Community High School '15
SIU Carbondale '19 or thereabouts
Keep your expectations low.
Carbondale Community High School '15
SIU Carbondale '19 or thereabouts
Keep your expectations low.
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
What's the best way to reach you?thyringe_supine wrote:If you have beef with me, please don't pollute this thread with expression of said beef.SirT wrote:I think he's probably got a pretty good start by not being a complete idiot who always posts complete crap on HSQB.thyringe_supine wrote:But my question would be how you can effectively communicate to non-quizbowlers that they should care, and, you know, that you're not making this whole thing up.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
As opposed to all the non-polluting of threads you are currently engaged in?thyringe_supine wrote:If you have beef with me, please don't pollute this thread with expression of said beef.SirT wrote:I think he's probably got a pretty good start by not being a complete idiot who always posts complete crap on HSQB.thyringe_supine wrote:But my question would be how you can effectively communicate to non-quizbowlers that they should care, and, you know, that you're not making this whole thing up.
Seriously, why are you giving people advice? You have no idea what you are talking about and are only muddling the issue.
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hsqb is a beef-free zone
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
No more metaposting.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
In an attempt to continue an actual topic of discussion:
Major props to Fred for providing a "legitimizing" service.
Not only school administrations; local companies are often willing to provide some sort of limited sponsorship (often, the kind of people running them are into the qb idea/ethos anyways) or funding for things like this. The same concerns about spelling etc. stand.thyringe_supine wrote:Well, if you feel jumping the bureaucracy like that isn't probably going to blow up in your face somehow, then go for it. However, while I don't have much to back this up with, my guess is that in most cases, particularly with public schools, success and funding do not go hand-in-hand like we sometimes wish they would. So, basically, my impression is that in such maneuvers, your mileage may vary. A lot.
@Fred Huh. Maybe I should try it. I don't know.
Major props to Fred for providing a "legitimizing" service.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Quick thought: If teams use these rankings as a way to get noticed or get funding (which by all means they should do), it might help to convey somewhere on the rankings site that Fred is a "noted authority" on high school quiz bowl. Anyone who has any knowledge of the national quiz bowl scene knows Fred is legit, but say I'm John Q. Highschoolprincipal from Smalltown High (Go Smalltown Wildcats! Beat the Crosstown Rival High Bulldogs!) and this upstart "academic team" comes to me saying, "This website has us ranked as the n-th best academic team in the country, ahead of other high schools with words like 'Charter' and 'Academy' in their name, so can we have some money to go to tournaments?" I would be more likely consider their request if I knew (or was convinced) that the person compiling these rankings came from some place of expertise and/or authority. Perhaps a page on the rankings site titled, "Why I know what I'm talking about" or something nicer. Or someone in a position of authority affiliated with an organization that's legit enough to be known by an acronym can bestow Fred with a title or recognize his contributions to quiz bowl.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
We could also just have Fred put the equivalent of his forum signature on an "about us" page.Habitat_Against_Humanity wrote:Quick thought: If teams use these rankings as a way to get noticed or get funding (which by all means they should do), it might help to convey somewhere on the rankings site that Fred is a "noted authority" on high school quiz bowl. Anyone who has any knowledge of the national quiz bowl scene knows Fred is legit, but say I'm John Q. Highschoolprincipal from Smalltown High (Go Smalltown Wildcats! Beat the Crosstown Rival High Bulldogs!) and this upstart "academic team" comes to me saying, "This website has us ranked as the n-th best academic team in the country, ahead of other high schools with words like 'Charter' and 'Academy' in their name, so can we have some money to go to tournaments?" I would be more likely consider their request if I knew (or was convinced) that the person compiling these rankings came from some place of expertise and/or authority. Perhaps a page on the rankings site titled, "Why I know what I'm talking about" or something nicer. Or someone in a position of authority affiliated with an organization that's legit enough to be known by an acronym can bestow Fred with a title or recognize his contributions to quiz bowl.
Jacob R., ex-Chicago
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
I updated this page to include actual information about me.
Fred Morlan
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former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
RIghtly or wrongly, rankings have always mattered. Look at the BCS polling if you don't agree. I can tell you from my personal experience in the outrageously well-funded quiz bowl Mecca of Alabama that EVERYTHING changed for Hoover when we cracked the top 50 in the rankings. Not only did the team itself get a big morale boost from seeing that someone, for some reason, somewhere, thought that they were good enough to be considered among the nation's best, but it also directly translated to increased funding for our program--I was able to go to my principal and say, "Listen, we've been winning some things here in Alabama, but here's evidence that we are getting good enough to play on the NATIONAL level. It costs a lot of money to do that. If we qualify, how about matching our fundraising for a trip to Nationals in Chicago to see how we do? It would look awfully good for our school to come back with a strong performance." He gave us an extra $1000 that year. The next year, we managed through luck and a great team to finish in first or second place after the prelim rounds at HSAPQ. When I sent him a picture of that, our budget went up by a thousand dollars a year permanently. AND we got a new buzzer system to replace our aging one. And a pep rally when we won state the next year. That led to our local congressman actually recognizing the team, and offering to help us out with the next trip, and local businesses becoming more interested in sponsoring us.
There are two ways to fund a quizbowl team--fundraising like crazy, or having parents pay for everything. As a public school teacher, I much prefer the former, but I despise fundraising by asking people to buy cookie dough or something like that. Having a high ranking for a year or two let us get away from a lot of that, gave us more visibility in our community, and increased our fundraising through other sources. I'd say that means that I owe Fred a beer at some point, if he ever finds me at HSNCT to collect.
There are two ways to fund a quizbowl team--fundraising like crazy, or having parents pay for everything. As a public school teacher, I much prefer the former, but I despise fundraising by asking people to buy cookie dough or something like that. Having a high ranking for a year or two let us get away from a lot of that, gave us more visibility in our community, and increased our fundraising through other sources. I'd say that means that I owe Fred a beer at some point, if he ever finds me at HSNCT to collect.
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ASCA Board Member
Hoover High School Coach (Retired)
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Hoover High School Coach (Retired)
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
I just updated the rankings again, though new info was only included from the tournament I ran Saturday, the ACF Regionals part of the Texas Invitational, and the NAQT Missouri Qualifier. I also posted current difficulty adjustments.
I suppose I could try emailing principals of schools that are ranked to tell them about that; my concern with doing that before has been that, while I think the rankings do a good job of objectively looking at data and determining who will do well at nationals, they're not perfect and can't predict exactly what will happen at national tournaments. I don't want them on a pedestal; the whole point of nationals is so teams can play each other and determine who is actually better.
I can't guarantee that, say, Norcross actually is the 14th best team in the country rather than it being Maggie Walker A. I just wanted to give teams some recognition while also keeping an eye on the difficulty of high school sets (which remains a primary goal of doing this).
Anyways, I'll take feedback & public discussion on the "contacting people about their school's ranking" thing. If individual teams want to opt out, I'd be happy to work with them as well, of course.
Edit: I do know of a few other teams that have benefited financially with their school from the rankings. I know that I can make PR from this a full time deal, just because of other obligations in my life. Obviously, other obligations that keep me from doing other things like updating every week or including more than 50 teams regularly are also going to keep me from emailing lots of schools as well.
I suppose I could try emailing principals of schools that are ranked to tell them about that; my concern with doing that before has been that, while I think the rankings do a good job of objectively looking at data and determining who will do well at nationals, they're not perfect and can't predict exactly what will happen at national tournaments. I don't want them on a pedestal; the whole point of nationals is so teams can play each other and determine who is actually better.
I can't guarantee that, say, Norcross actually is the 14th best team in the country rather than it being Maggie Walker A. I just wanted to give teams some recognition while also keeping an eye on the difficulty of high school sets (which remains a primary goal of doing this).
Anyways, I'll take feedback & public discussion on the "contacting people about their school's ranking" thing. If individual teams want to opt out, I'd be happy to work with them as well, of course.
Edit: I do know of a few other teams that have benefited financially with their school from the rankings. I know that I can make PR from this a full time deal, just because of other obligations in my life. Obviously, other obligations that keep me from doing other things like updating every week or including more than 50 teams regularly are also going to keep me from emailing lots of schools as well.
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former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
I'll also admit that a potential downside to trying to make this more of a thing is additional pressure/drama from it, which would make me far less likely to want to do it.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
So, wait, a team doesn't have the [UR] label or whatever unless they've never been featured at all? Perhaps for teams who have been in the top 50 at some point, but aren't any more, could you put the highest they've been ranked at all?Fred wrote:I've expanded the rankings to 100 teams.
It's currently slightly confusing.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Those show the previous week's ranking; I'm considering this ranking an extension of the previous update, not a whole new set of rankings (note no one in the top 50 actually changed position). I could change those to be the exact same as their current rank, but I'm not going to.thyringe_supine wrote:So, wait, a team doesn't have the [UR] label or whatever unless they've never been featured at all? Perhaps for teams who have been in the top 50 at some point, but aren't any more, could you put the highest they've been ranked at all?Fred wrote:I've expanded the rankings to 100 teams.
It's currently slightly confusing.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
For those interested in the results of the NAQT St. Mark's Tournament
run on Saturday, March 2, 2013 in Dallas, here is the link:
http://www.texasquizbowl.org
It was run on IS-124.
Cistercian "A" beat LASA "A" in a nail-biter in the varsity division;
St. Mark's won the Novice division;
Holy Family won the Middle School Division -- I don't recall what set(s) they used here.
Edit: Better link:http://www.texasquizbowl.org/d/@130302S ... dings.html
run on Saturday, March 2, 2013 in Dallas, here is the link:
http://www.texasquizbowl.org
It was run on IS-124.
Cistercian "A" beat LASA "A" in a nail-biter in the varsity division;
St. Mark's won the Novice division;
Holy Family won the Middle School Division -- I don't recall what set(s) they used here.
Edit: Better link:http://www.texasquizbowl.org/d/@130302S ... dings.html
Last edited by Remember-the-Alamo-Remember-Goliad on Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
I will not be using the stats from BATE this year. There are too many errors to rely upon them for anything meaningful. Apologies to all the teams affected by this.
Fred Morlan
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International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Just so everyone is aware: the next set of rankings won't come until May. I'll try to wait until after all non-nationals are done so I can have an extra special set of final rankings. I'll probably call on community help to make sure I don't miss any tournaments, because I haven't updated this since the last post in this thread, and won't until after my finals.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
So: I just finished this semester (thank God). I'm going to get caught back up on the rankings in the near future, though probably not until all tournaments have finished for the regular season. However, since I haven't updated a thing since around the University of Kentucky tournament, I need help making sure I don't miss any stats.
I'll be making a thread in the near future detailing exactly what I need help with and what I need you to do. This will help me make as accurate a set of rankings as I can do.
I'll be making a thread in the near future detailing exactly what I need help with and what I need you to do. This will help me make as accurate a set of rankings as I can do.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Decided to just stick it in this thread rather than its own.
Below is the list of tournaments I do have data for. If you see any missing tournaments, please post the name of that tournament and a link to its stats. Note that for a tournament to be able to be put in, it must be a non-JV event that produced a stat report that had, at a bare minimum, reliable PPBs. I typically used the name of the tournament per NAQT or HSQB listings, but it's possible I defaulted to the host name due to lack of information.
Thanks everyone.
Below is the list of tournaments I do have data for. If you see any missing tournaments, please post the name of that tournament and a link to its stats. Note that for a tournament to be able to be put in, it must be a non-JV event that produced a stat report that had, at a bare minimum, reliable PPBs. I typically used the name of the tournament per NAQT or HSQB listings, but it's possible I defaulted to the host name due to lack of information.
Thanks everyone.
- 2012 Missouri Fall Academic Tournament
2012 VCU Fall
8th Hoover Invitational
ACF at UVA
ACF Fall at Claremont
ACF Fall at CMU
ACF Fall at Harvard
ACF Fall at NIU
Agatha Encounter
Alberta Quizbowl Tournament II
Alta-Aurelia Invitational
ANGST
Arcadia Carnal Embrace
ASU Lorelei Challenge
ATLAS I
ATROPHY
BAAL Battle of Hastings
BAAL Horatio Nelson
Ballard-Eastern Academic Challenge
Battle of the Burgh
BENJI
Bevill State
Bishop Moore Catholic Challenge
Blacksburg Academic Invitational
Bloomington BMI3
Blue Devil Academic Tournament
Blue Hen XV
Bonfire of the Manatees
Bruno Battle at Arizona St.
Brush Invitational
Buffalo Bull Bowl
C. W. Thornthwaite Tournament
Cal Classic
Cavalier Classic XV
Cave Spring Invitational
Centennial HS Tournament
Chapelle HS Fall Tournament
Collins Hill Season Ender
Columbia mirror of LIST
Connecticut Invitational IV
Cornell Cayuga Championship 5
Covenant Chrisitan Invitational
CSWIFT
Culver Invitational
Dennis Haskins Open
Dorman Season Ender
Eden Prairie EPIC
Edmond Memorial Bulldog
EnIAC II
Florida Gateway High School Open
Floridian High School
FUNKADELIC
GDS LOCKOUT
Glasgow Academic Invitational
Glen Gonsalves Memorial
Golden Eagle Bowl
Gopher Invitational
GSAC XX
Gum a La Poubelle Invitational
Hallsville Invitational
Harding Invitational
Harvard Fall mirror at Auburn
Harvard Fall Tournament
HFT at Auburn (competitive)
Hoover Elite Meet
Horatio Nelson Memorial Tournament
Houston Holiday Hoedown V
Huskie Bowl (Competitive)
Huskie Bowl (Standard)
IHOP II
IHSSBCA Kickoff at Bloomington
IHSSBCA Kickoff at Greenville
IHSSBCA Kickoff at Maine South (competitive)
IHSSBCA Kickoff at Maine South (standard)
IHSSBCA Kickoff at PORTA
IHSSBCA Kickoff at Sterling
IHSSBCA Kickoff at Wheaton North (standard)
IHSSBCA Kickoff at Wheaton North (upper)
Illinois Early Bird
Illinois NAQT State
INTENSE (Standard)
INTENSE (Uber-Competitive)
Jag Bowl VII
Journey to the East
KINGPIN
KPAQT III
L. L. Lewis Cup
La Jolla High School Tournament
Ladue Invitational Spring Tournament
LIFT XII
Livingston HS March Madness (prelims only)
Louisville Spring
Loyburn
Loyola Academy Spring Tournament
Loyola Ultima (Standard)
Loyola Ultima XV (Competitive)
Mellon Bowl X
Metro Richmond Invitational
Michigan Autumn Classic
Michigan State March Madness
Minnesota State Championship
Missouri Tiger Bowl V (Prelims)
MIT Fall Tournament
MITBAT VII
MOQBA Fall - Kansas City
MOQBA Fall - Lutheran St. Charles
MOQBA Fall - Southwest
MOQBA Winter: Kirksville
MOQBA Winter: Orchard Farm
MOQBA Winter: Waynesville
NAQT Arizona
NAQT Delaware
NAQT Eastern Pennsylvania
NAQT Kentucky
NAQT Maryland/DC
NAQT Michigan
NAQT Missouri
NAQT New England
NAQT New Jersey
NAQT North Florida
NAQT Northern California
NAQT Northern Florida Championship
NAQT Ohio
NAQT Oklahoma
NAQT Ontario Provincial Championship
NAQT South Carolina
NAQT South Florida State
NAQT Southern California
NAQT Upstate New York Championship
NAQT Vermont State Championship
NAQT Virginia Championship
NAQT Washington
NAQT Western Pennsylvania
NAQT Wisconsin
NCATA Championship
NCIS
NEGBAIT
New Albany mirror of FKT
Newtown High School Invitational
North Hollywood HS Tournament
Olmsted Falls Battle Buzz
Olmsted Falls mirror of FKT
Ottawa Quizbowl Tournament VIII
Panther-Ranger Academic Tournament
Penn State Invitational
Pre-Holiday Academic Tournament
Princeton PHSAT XX
Prison Bowl VI
QuAC IV at Penn
Quaker Bowl
Rice University mirror of IFT
Rock Bridge WIT
Rowdy Raider
Rube Goldberg Invitational X
Sacramento Area Tournament
Sacramento Spring Championship
Seton Hall Pirate Open
Sidney mirror of FKT
Siouxper Bowl IX
Snow CAT
SOCIAL IX
South Range Academic Challenge
Springfield Varsity
St. Joseph mirror of GSAC
St. Mark's Invitational
Stanford IFT mirror
SWAG I at Westview
Tar Heel Cup
Texas Invitational (ACF)
Texas Invitational NAQT
Tippecanoe Academic Challenge XVII
TJIAT
TPOT II
TQBA Alamo City
TQBA Bexar Bowl
TQBA Bluebonnet
TQBA Fiesta
TQBA Kickoff Classic
TQBA Metroplex
TQBA Panther Challenge
TQBA Winter Rodeo
Treasure Valley Tournament IV
Triton Fall III
TRIUMVIR 3
Truman Bowl
Tulane BHSAT
Tulane Fall Tournament
Tulsa Fall Challenge V
UK Spring Championship
UMD IFT
UNC CaST
University HS (WV)
University of Delaware's UD/MSU Fall
UTC Trevor's Trivia
Vanderbilt ABC 42
VCU Season Finale
VCU Spring
VCU Winter
Virginia Tech Spring Invitational
Wake Forest Brain Summit II
Warhawk Invitational
Warren G. Harding Invitational
West Point Invitational
West Point Season Ender
Western NC Shootout
Westview YOLO
White Station Quiz Tournament
William Rufus King Memorial Tournament
Winter Invitational Tournament
Winter War 2
Wisconsin Fall 2012
WKU Hilltopper Invitational
WUHASC
Yale BHSAT XXII
Yale FAcT VIII
Yellow Jacket Inviational
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Also: I hope to have the last "big" update of the season up by the end of this week. I'm aware that other events will happen between now and the HSNCT; I'll try to update things with that information as well.
I plan on emailing all coaches in the top X with their ranking as part of a form letter. Hopefully, this would be able to be used by these teams as a way to show off their strength and that they're worthy of financing.
I plan on emailing all coaches in the top X with their ranking as part of a form letter. Hopefully, this would be able to be used by these teams as a way to show off their strength and that they're worthy of financing.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Fred- the Brush tournament was a JV event. A few varsity players played from various teams, but all teams were at least 3/4 of a JV team. Not sure how helpful those will be.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Rotary Indiana Championship
http://www.naqt.com/stats/tournament-te ... nt_id=4573
http://www.naqt.com/stats/tournament-te ... nt_id=4573
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
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"I wish to make some kind of joke about Jeff's love of birds, but I always fear he'll turn them on me Hitchcock-style." -Fred
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Thanks; I deleted this. (I also found a couple of duplicate entries (one in Florida, one at La Jolla) which I took care of).djones wrote:Fred- the Brush tournament was a JV event. A few varsity players played from various teams, but all teams were at least 3/4 of a JV team. Not sure how helpful those will be.
No usable PPB. Do you have a top secret SQBS file?Ben Dillon wrote:Rotary Indiana Championship
http://www.naqt.com/stats/tournament-te ... nt_id=4573
Thanks!bt_green_warbler wrote:Golden Bear Invitational (Berkeley's GSAC mirror)
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
NOHO [HSAPQ #32]
DN-QT [HSAPQ #33]
Also, this year's Torrey Pines tournament was TPOT III, not TPOT II.
DN-QT [HSAPQ #33]
Also, this year's Torrey Pines tournament was TPOT III, not TPOT II.
Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Perhaps I just don't see it, Fred: CATT VIII.
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Re: HSQBRank 2012-2013: No, I do not mean HSA Bank
Thanks Eddie. I've fixed/added those.
Are bouncebacks left in for the PPB calculations?RountreeCHS wrote:Perhaps I just don't see it, Fred: CATT VIII.
Fred Morlan
University of Kentucky CoP, 2017
International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator
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International Quiz Bowl Tournaments, CEO, co-owner
former PACE member, president, etc.
former hsqbrank manager, former NAQT writer & subject editor, former hsqb Administrator/Chief Administrator