ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
Caltech will be hosting ACF Fall on November 6, 2010!
LOCATION: Baxter Hall
PARKING: On the California Lot of Caltech
SCHEDULE:
7:30 A.M. – 8:30 A.M.: Registration Period (All teams must be accounted for by 8:30 A.M. PST)
8:30 A.M. – 9:00 A.M.: Rules Meeting / Moderator Meeting
9:00 A.M.: Tournament Play
FOOD:
Breakfast: We will feed you delicious donuts and bagels as always.
Lunch: Lunch is available on Lake Avenue.
FEES:
Base Fee: $120
Buzzer systems: -$5 each
Staffers: -$10 each
Travel: -$10 for traveling over 200 miles one way, -$20 for over 400, etc.
International: -$20
New to ACF teams: -$25
New to Quizbowl teams: -$75
High School teams: -$50
In addition, any collegiate team with at least one person on it who played a regular, collegiate, academic quizbowl tournament prior to September 1, 2009 is required to submit a packet. Discounts and penalties for packet submission are as follows:
Sept 26, 2010: -$25 (-$50 for teams not required to submit packets)
Oct 10, 2010: No penalty (-$25 for teams not required to submit packets)
Oct 17, 2010: +$25
Oct 24, 2010: +$50
After Oct. 24, 2010: The editors may grant one or more 24-hour extensions at an additional penalty of $10 per day.
REGISTRATION:
The TD for ACF Fall West 2010 is Alan Lin ([email protected]).
If you are planning to come, please send an e-mail with:
1) Your school's name
2) The number of teams you are bringing
3) The number of buzzer systems and any other discounts you wish to validate
If you have any questions, please e-mail us.
For more information, see the main ACF Fall 2010 topic: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10109
as well as the ACF site: http://www.acf-quizbowl.com/index.php
LOCATION: Baxter Hall
PARKING: On the California Lot of Caltech
SCHEDULE:
7:30 A.M. – 8:30 A.M.: Registration Period (All teams must be accounted for by 8:30 A.M. PST)
8:30 A.M. – 9:00 A.M.: Rules Meeting / Moderator Meeting
9:00 A.M.: Tournament Play
FOOD:
Breakfast: We will feed you delicious donuts and bagels as always.
Lunch: Lunch is available on Lake Avenue.
FEES:
Base Fee: $120
Buzzer systems: -$5 each
Staffers: -$10 each
Travel: -$10 for traveling over 200 miles one way, -$20 for over 400, etc.
International: -$20
New to ACF teams: -$25
New to Quizbowl teams: -$75
High School teams: -$50
In addition, any collegiate team with at least one person on it who played a regular, collegiate, academic quizbowl tournament prior to September 1, 2009 is required to submit a packet. Discounts and penalties for packet submission are as follows:
Sept 26, 2010: -$25 (-$50 for teams not required to submit packets)
Oct 10, 2010: No penalty (-$25 for teams not required to submit packets)
Oct 17, 2010: +$25
Oct 24, 2010: +$50
After Oct. 24, 2010: The editors may grant one or more 24-hour extensions at an additional penalty of $10 per day.
REGISTRATION:
The TD for ACF Fall West 2010 is Alan Lin ([email protected]).
If you are planning to come, please send an e-mail with:
1) Your school's name
2) The number of teams you are bringing
3) The number of buzzer systems and any other discounts you wish to validate
If you have any questions, please e-mail us.
For more information, see the main ACF Fall 2010 topic: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10109
as well as the ACF site: http://www.acf-quizbowl.com/index.php
Alan Lin -- Caltech Quiz Bowl
Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
There is a possibility that Bellarmine may be able to come to this. Extremely tentative, but we'll keep you posted.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
Arizona State will be sending a delegation again this year, but we're unlikely to be able to get an exact headcount for another week or two at the earliest. The tentative look of things is to have five teams, but people will inevitably confirm their attendance late or drop of the face of the Earth between now and November, so we'll see.
As an aside, I'm proud to see that ASU's C team is the first (and the first C team in the country this year, it appears) to submit a packet. I am slightly concerned that there has yet to be anything submitted by Wolfmanpack or Team Kenneth, but that reflects our attendance uncertainties.
As an aside, I'm proud to see that ASU's C team is the first (and the first C team in the country this year, it appears) to submit a packet. I am slightly concerned that there has yet to be anything submitted by Wolfmanpack or Team Kenneth, but that reflects our attendance uncertainties.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
I see you've now met my new vice president Ian. Most of our members have not to this point revealed themselves on these forums, but as my presence fades over the coming year you will increasingly hear the Voice of ASU Quizbowl come out of their mouths (or keyboards) rather than my own.
At this time we have 22 members signed up in 6 teams. Barring a great catastrophe, at least 5 of those teams are likely to be entered.
ASU A "Wolfmanpack" - will play if they succeed in finishing their packet by the no-penalty deadline; may or may not be willing to pay the penalty if their packet is delayed; cannot play without a finished packet
ASU B (name TBD) - will play; will probably choose to forgo the packet discount as they have struggled with writing questions
ASU C (name TBD) - will play; have submitted their packet for the discount (a lot of credit goes to Ian for this)
ASU D (name TBD) - will play; may or may not submit a packet
ASU E (name TBD) - will play if the number of people dropping is not greater than the number of my reserve players; otherwise will be fused with the F team below
ASU F "Presidential Guard" - will buffer any late drops/adds by growing or shrinking as necessary (the guards may be used as reserves to plug gaps in the other teams, particularly ASU E)
I am the sole packet writer for collegiate quizbowl's very first F team (that I know of, anyway), which means I am solely responsible for any packet penalties if I am late. However, this will be a very creative (yet still difficulty appropriate) packet and I guarantee it will be worth any wait. :)
At this time we have 22 members signed up in 6 teams. Barring a great catastrophe, at least 5 of those teams are likely to be entered.
ASU A "Wolfmanpack" - will play if they succeed in finishing their packet by the no-penalty deadline; may or may not be willing to pay the penalty if their packet is delayed; cannot play without a finished packet
ASU B (name TBD) - will play; will probably choose to forgo the packet discount as they have struggled with writing questions
ASU C (name TBD) - will play; have submitted their packet for the discount (a lot of credit goes to Ian for this)
ASU D (name TBD) - will play; may or may not submit a packet
ASU E (name TBD) - will play if the number of people dropping is not greater than the number of my reserve players; otherwise will be fused with the F team below
ASU F "Presidential Guard" - will buffer any late drops/adds by growing or shrinking as necessary (the guards may be used as reserves to plug gaps in the other teams, particularly ASU E)
I am the sole packet writer for collegiate quizbowl's very first F team (that I know of, anyway), which means I am solely responsible for any packet penalties if I am late. However, this will be a very creative (yet still difficulty appropriate) packet and I guarantee it will be worth any wait. :)
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
There was a Chicago F at both ACF Fall 2004 and SCT 2007.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
Dang it. I guess we'll just have to grow enough to field a 7-team delegation at some future ACF Fall.MLafer wrote:There was a Chicago F at both ACF Fall 2004 and SCT 2007.
But I'd venture to guess that the Arizona State team will soon hold the record for the largest number of person-miles covered by a quizbowl expedition, and therefore this will objectively be the most epic quizbowl journey ever undertaken. (In literature, there's a basic rule of thumb: epicity = party size x distance traveled)
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
We sent five teams to a Cardinal Classic once. I'm pretty sure golden age Chicago is going to win basically all of these little metrics you can come up with.Sun Devil Student wrote: But I'd venture to guess that the Arizona State team will soon hold the record for the largest number of person-miles covered by a quizbowl expedition
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
That's amazing. Did you fly 20 people all the way out there? How did you pay for that?marnold wrote: We sent five teams to a Cardinal Classic once.
Yeah, we can't afford to break your record. That sounds like one awesome Golden Age though.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
Chicago's annual budget is infinity dollars.Sun Devil Student wrote:That's amazing. Did you fly 20 people all the way out there? How did you pay for that?marnold wrote: We sent five teams to a Cardinal Classic once.
Yeah, we can't afford to break your record. That sounds like one awesome Golden Age though.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
Chicago is known for having the university give them many thousands of dollars to spend any given year.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
Possible University High attendance. Need to check with teammates and get back to you.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
UCLA will have at least one team, likely 2 there. Packet should be in by next deadline, and other team is div II.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
We'll have at least one team, quite possibly two, and perhaps (not very likely) three!
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
Rancho Bernardo will be there with 1 team.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
Oh yeah; Chris and I should be around to staff if you need us.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
We should be bringing 2-3 teams and possibly some staffers.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
ASU D has a packet coming along. It should be done within the next 24 hours. Unfortunately, its team leader (me) has struggled to find internet access during the past few weeks. ASU D's leader also has to figure out a way to afford car repairs and how to avoid towing threats by ASU.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
Field update?
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
Field Update:
Claremont x3
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ASU 4 - 6
UCLA 1 - 2
UCSD 2 - 3
University High?
Those of you who haven't already, please e-mail me with actual registration information. Staffers would also be more than welcome.
Claremont x3
Rancho Bernardo
ASU 4 - 6
UCLA 1 - 2
UCSD 2 - 3
University High?
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
STILL checking with teammates. Sorry.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
The first thing that comes to mind right now is "GG."Sun Devil Student wrote: ASU A "Wolfmanpack" - will play if they succeed in finishing their packet by the no-penalty deadline; may or may not be willing to pay the penalty if their packet is delayed; cannot play without a finished packet
We should have an e-mail to Alan by the middle of this week, but as it stands, I may be spending all day tomorrow lobbying Ken to read my packet consisting entirely of UEFA European Championship tossups at practice as punishment.
I get the feeling Milton Friedman would be upset by that. Something about inflation.Frater Taciturnus wrote: Chicago's annual budget is infinity dollars.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
We need to get our student government funding forms (requires proof of trip costs, including registration fees) turned in today. Can anyone from Caltech send us an invoice for 5 teams ($100 each) by today (preferably before 3:00pm)? Thanks!!
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
I will almost certainly be showing up to staff this tournament and possibly dragging along a team of freshmen and sophomores. I hope to let you know tonight.alanlin wrote:Staffers would also be more than welcome.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
As of the present plans, I will be staffing for UCLA.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
i'll probly show up to read in the afternoon.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
still checking with teammates.......... should know soon.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
A quick note to our kind Caltech hosts: If you are making schedules for the teams, can you make sure the ASU teams are labeled B-F (instead of A-E)? ASU is sending 5 teams, but the former A team is explicitly not competing at this tournament.
Two members of ASU A didn't write the questions they were supposed to for their packet (we finally heard from one of them a couple days ago confirming that he was withdrawing; the other never even bothered to tell anyone that he wasn't going to have his part done), and a third member was very late with his contribution. He contacted ACF Fall Editor Evan Adams a couple days ago about their situation and is waiting to hear back. If permitted to play, the two former A-team members will be folded into our E and F teams. As they did each do their 1/4 of a packet and were simply left out in the cold by their teammates failing to deliver, I think it would be fair to allow them to play in this tournament. However we are still waiting for official confirmation of that.
Two members of ASU A didn't write the questions they were supposed to for their packet (we finally heard from one of them a couple days ago confirming that he was withdrawing; the other never even bothered to tell anyone that he wasn't going to have his part done), and a third member was very late with his contribution. He contacted ACF Fall Editor Evan Adams a couple days ago about their situation and is waiting to hear back. If permitted to play, the two former A-team members will be folded into our E and F teams. As they did each do their 1/4 of a packet and were simply left out in the cold by their teammates failing to deliver, I think it would be fair to allow them to play in this tournament. However we are still waiting for official confirmation of that.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
Is the ASU A half-packet being used? If so, I'd hope those former A-team members would be folded into only one of the E/F team.Sun Devil Student wrote:A quick note to our kind Caltech hosts: If you are making schedules for the teams, can you make sure the ASU teams are labeled B-F (instead of A-E)? ASU is sending 5 teams, but the former A team is explicitly not competing at this tournament.
Two members of ASU A didn't write the questions they were supposed to for their packet (we finally heard from one of them a couple days ago confirming that he was withdrawing; the other never even bothered to tell anyone that he wasn't going to have his part done), and a third member was very late with his contribution. He contacted ACF Fall Editor Evan Adams a couple days ago about their situation and is waiting to hear back. If permitted to play, the two former A-team members will be folded into our E and F teams. As they did each do their 1/4 of a packet and were simply left out in the cold by their teammates failing to deliver, I think it would be fair to allow them to play in this tournament. However we are still waiting for official confirmation of that.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
He may want to resend that e-mail. I haven't heard from him.Sun Devil Student wrote:He contacted ACF Fall Editor Evan Adams a couple days ago about their situation and is waiting to hear back.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
University will not be attending. Sorry.
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
It appears there have been a few internal misunderstandings with my team's ACF Fall situation, which are partly my fault as the team coach. I just sent an e-mail to Evan explaining the situation.
Note that ASU will still be entering 5 teams and they will be teams B through F. We look forward to seeing you all this Saturday. Thanks to Caltech for hosting!
Note that ASU will still be entering 5 teams and they will be teams B through F. We look forward to seeing you all this Saturday. Thanks to Caltech for hosting!
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
What were the results here? I heard that UCSD topped the field undefeated and Rancho Bernardo finished second with, I think, a 9-2 record, but nothing else.
EDIT: add crucial word!
EDIT: add crucial word!
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
UCSD went undefeated 12-0; RB came in second with a 9-3 record, edging out Caltech, who also had a 9-3 record, by (iirc) 0.8 ppg. UCLA went 8-4, and I can't recall the rest of the fieldnadph wrote:What were the results here? I heard that UCSD topped the field undefeated and Rancho Bernardo finished second with, I think, a 9-2 record, but nothing else.
EDIT: add crucial word!
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
Stats (sans round report, which Caltech will add to their own site later) can be found here: http://results.scobo.net/SQBS.aspx?org= ... =standings
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
They've been posted:
http://quizbowl.caltech.edu/results/201 ... dings.html
http://quizbowl.caltech.edu/results/201 ... dings.html
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Re: ACF Fall West: Caltech (11/6/10)
ASU E was surprised to see stats yesterday night, as they were under the impression that they were 3-9, not 2-10. Did you guys discover a scoresheet error that changed a game result or something? Just wondering.
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The Sonoran Desert quizbowl ecosystem
-activist/advocate (2010-2013)
The Arizona State University Quizbowl Club
-elder statesman (2011-2013)
-coach (2009-2011)
-club president (2008-2011)
-founder (2007-)
The University of Illinois at Chicago
-stranger in a strange land (2013-)
The Sonoran Desert quizbowl ecosystem
-activist/advocate (2010-2013)
The Arizona State University Quizbowl Club
-elder statesman (2011-2013)
-coach (2009-2011)
-club president (2008-2011)
-founder (2007-)