Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
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Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
This is an announcement for the Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV at Loyola Academy, Wilmette, Illinois, on January 10, 2010. We will be using NAQT set IS-87A. Entry fee is $65 per team. For further information, email me at [email protected].
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
It should probably be clarified — unless it has changed from editions I, II, and III — that this is a frosh/soph tournament only.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Yes, still frosh/soph....and to further clarify, frosh/soph, not "jv".
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Field update as of 12/11:
Loyola (2)
Maine South
Carbondale (2)
Latin
Fremd (2)
Leyden
Barrington (2)
Wheaton-Warrenville
Maine East
Lisle
New Trier
Auburn (2)
Stevenson
St. Viator (2)
OPRF
Marist
Homewood-Flossmoor
Loyola (2)
Maine South
Carbondale (2)
Latin
Fremd (2)
Leyden
Barrington (2)
Wheaton-Warrenville
Maine East
Lisle
New Trier
Auburn (2)
Stevenson
St. Viator (2)
OPRF
Marist
Homewood-Flossmoor
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Field has been updated and is tentatively closed. I might expand to 24 teams pending demand, etc. Registration will then close on December 15, and then requests for B teams will be honored in the order in which they were received.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Out of curiosity, has our B-team request been received, and if so, how high is it in priority? I'm really hoping for the opportunity to expose this year's freshman to a higher standard of quiz bowl.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Unfortunately, it doesn't appear likely.
I am giving preference to single teams up until Dec 15. After that, I will fill slots with B teams up to a maximum of 24 teams but there are about eight or nine teams ahead of you. I'll keep you posted if anything changes.
I am giving preference to single teams up until Dec 15. After that, I will fill slots with B teams up to a maximum of 24 teams but there are about eight or nine teams ahead of you. I'll keep you posted if anything changes.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Ben, I was mistaken--if I do expand and allow second teams, Carbondale is 4th in line for a B team.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Well, if you really want to expose them to good quiz bowl, you should sincerely consider letting them go over you, as they would benefit MUCH MUCH more from this than yourself.Chametz wrote:Out of curiosity, has our B-team request been received, and if so, how high is it in priority? I'm really hoping for the opportunity to expose this year's freshman to a higher standard of quiz bowl.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Hmm... I'll take this into consideration. We're already missing a sophomore for this tournament, but a lot of our freshman are having problems with commitment and many of them still prefer one-liners. I remember how great it was for me to see what good quizbowl looked like when I was a freshman, I think it would be good for them too. I have a speech tournament that day anyway, this would make my schedule less complicated. I'll have to think about this one.MoCity02 wrote: Well, if you really want to expose them to good quiz bowl, you should sincerely consider letting them go over you, as they would benefit MUCH MUCH more from this than yourself.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Field update as of 12/11:
Loyola (2)
Maine South
Carbondale (2)
Latin
Fremd (2)
Leyden
Barrington (2)
Wheaton-Warrenville
Maine East
Lisle
New Trier
Auburn (2)
Stevenson
St. Viator (2)
OPRF
Marist
Homewood-Flossmoor
Loyola (2)
Maine South
Carbondale (2)
Latin
Fremd (2)
Leyden
Barrington (2)
Wheaton-Warrenville
Maine East
Lisle
New Trier
Auburn (2)
Stevenson
St. Viator (2)
OPRF
Marist
Homewood-Flossmoor
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Bumped to remind teams to get their rosters in before next Saturday.
Also, with the addition of Champaign Centennial & Stevenson B and dropping of Loyola B, the field update as of 1/8:
Auburn (2)
Barrington (2)
Carbondale (2)
Champaign Centennial
Fremd (2)
Homewood-Flossmoor
Latin
Leyden
Lisle
Loyola
Maine East
Maine South
Marist
New Trier
OPRF
St. Viator (2)
Stevenson (2)
Wheaton-Warrenville
Also, with the addition of Champaign Centennial & Stevenson B and dropping of Loyola B, the field update as of 1/8:
Auburn (2)
Barrington (2)
Carbondale (2)
Champaign Centennial
Fremd (2)
Homewood-Flossmoor
Latin
Leyden
Lisle
Loyola
Maine East
Maine South
Marist
New Trier
OPRF
St. Viator (2)
Stevenson (2)
Wheaton-Warrenville
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Correction: Loyola B is in and Stevenson B is still on the wait list.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Mea culpa: both Stevenson B and Loyola B are in, Wheaton-Warrenville B is on the wait list.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Just e-mailed you.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Got it and forwarded them to Nola.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Field update as of 1/8:
Loyola (2)
Maine South
Carbondale (2)
Latin
Fremd (2)
Leyden
Barrington (2)
Wheaton-Warrenville
Maine East
Lisle
New Trier
Auburn
Stevenson (2)
St. Viator (2)
OPRF
Marist
Homewood-Flossmoor
Champaign Centennial
Loyola (2)
Maine South
Carbondale (2)
Latin
Fremd (2)
Leyden
Barrington (2)
Wheaton-Warrenville
Maine East
Lisle
New Trier
Auburn
Stevenson (2)
St. Viator (2)
OPRF
Marist
Homewood-Flossmoor
Champaign Centennial
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Hey people who I think are at this tournament should stop tweeting answers as this set isn't cleared.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
If anyone is eagerly waiting for results, we've been delayed by a fire alarm.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Stevenson won, with Auburn runner-up. I'll let someone post the rest of the results, since I don't remember all of them.
I thought the questions were great for this level - most questions were gettable by the end while still working in enough of the varsity-level canon to keep it academic. Moderators did a great job overall and (aside from the fire drill) things went very smoothly.
I thought the questions were great for this level - most questions were gettable by the end while still working in enough of the varsity-level canon to keep it academic. Moderators did a great job overall and (aside from the fire drill) things went very smoothly.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Stevenson A won with a 5-0 record. There was no advantaged final, rather there was a 5-way circle of death between Auburn A, Barrington A, Wheaton Warrenville South A, Loyola A, and Oak Park-River Forest, as the all finished the championship bracket with 2-3 records. Based on total points per game in the playoffs, Auburn A was declared the 2nd place finisher, Barrington A the 3rd place team, and Wheaton Warrenville South A the 4th place team. Outside of Stevenson, it was an incredibly balanced championship pool, IMO. Champaign Centennial, the only team to defeat Stevenson A today, swept the consolation pool to finish the day with a 9-1 overall record, yet they missed the cut for the championship round due to PPB. I'll let Laird give his explanation of how that could have happened...
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Could you group the morning stats in the morning brackets? Right now the morning stats have teams grouped into their playoff brackets.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
That's an awfully strange scenario: Stevenson gets beat by about 300 then sweeps the rest of the field...
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
I'd love to know more about Champaign Centennial and this Chris Olsen.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Yeah, Jonah hi-jacked my file so he doesn't have that. Prelim results with everybody in their right brackets can be found hereCrazy Andy Watkins wrote:Could you group the morning stats in the morning brackets? Right now the morning stats have teams grouped into their playoff brackets.
EDIT: After some things (such as repeat games) have been fixed, stats can be found in the following places:
http://results.scobo.net/Loyola/Davey_Prelims
http://results.scobo.net/Loyola/Davey_Playoffs
http://results.scobo.net/Loyola/Davey_Combined
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Thanks to everyone today for a great tournament, minus the impromptu fire drill and the delayed lunch [who would ever think a morning would finish early?]. A special thanks to my statskeeper, Nolan Winkler, and moderators Will Abraham, Dan Donohue, Jonah Greenthal, Nathan Hollinsaid, Sam Krc [that's not a typo], Christian Kreb, Matt Laird, Mike Laudermith, Jeff Price, Donal [that's not a typo, either] Terrell, Mike Verity, and Marcel Youkhna. Comments, compliments, and complaints all welcome, and yes, please do not discuss specific questions ANYWHERE until cleared to do so by NAQT.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
[that's a typo]David Riley wrote: welcme.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
fixed.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Well, we're a first year team and our team did amazingly well today. Our team was very happy with the way the tournament was run, the moderating, and they especially liked the lunch. While the afternoon bracketing didn't advantage us, the players feel pretty good about their performance today. Chris is a sophomore and played in middle school. We'll have to come to more tournaments up north.Jacopo Robusti wrote:I'd love to know more about Champaign Centennial and this Chris Olsen.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Huskie Bowl has a spot open in the top division. We'd love to have you guys, and it's a bit shorter of a drive than up to Chicago. Plus, Trashtwostrophe!garciaja wrote:Well, we're a first year team and our team did amazingly well today. Our team was very happy with the way the tournament was run, the moderating, and they especially liked the lunch. While the afternoon bracketing didn't advantage us, the players feel pretty good about their performance today. Chris is a sophomore and played in middle school. We'll have to come to more tournaments up north.Jacopo Robusti wrote:I'd love to know more about Champaign Centennial and this Chris Olsen.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
Champaign Centennial hosted tournaments on 2009-2010 Illinois Sets A and B this past December. Their only other tournament in NAQT's database was Kickoff, where they lost to Quincy High, Bloomington, Springfield A, and Chatham Glenwood and beat Lincoln A. They managed 177ppg. No bonus stats or individual stats available.Jacopo Robusti wrote:I'd love to know more about Champaign Centennial and this Chris Olsen.
They beat Bettendorf in the final of a tournament that looks like it was probably IHSA format here.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)
This was their league tournament (it was just one, but they needed packets from both sets), and those original sets had been modified somewhat by me (for varsity) and a great deal by Tom Egan (for the frosh/soph).Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:Champaign Centennial hosted tournaments on 2009-2010 Illinois Sets A and B this past DecemberJacopo Robusti wrote:I'd love to know more about Champaign Centennial and this Chris Olsen.
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