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Re: Announcement: 2010 Chicago Open, Chicago, IL (July 23-25)

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Allow me to remind you all that the deadline for the largest discount is approaching; you have until May 1st to send me a really good packet. Right now, I have one packet from Evan Adams et al. but surely everyone is hard at work on their questions.
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Re: Announcement: 2010 Chicago Open, Chicago, IL (July 23-25)

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Michigan people:

As packet deadlines are approaching...any word yet on whether you will have a slot open for me? If not, no big deal, I will staff.

EDIT: I'm on a team of various Michigan people.
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Sorry, Mike! I think there is certainly room for you. I know Phil would like to go for sure, and was interested in attempting the earliest deadline. Kurtis isn't sure whether he can go, but has offered to help write questions regardless. I will try and get a more concrete response from people tonight.
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Is there any news as to the distribution of events over the weekend? The announcement for the trash tournament says that it'll be Sunday; do we know when the Fine Arts & Lit. tournaments will be?
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Charbroil wrote:Is there any news as to the distribution of events over the weekend? The announcement for the trash tournament says that it'll be Sunday; do we know when the Fine Arts & Lit. tournaments will be?
we don't, read jerry's post here: http://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic. ... 18#p183718
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The deadline for the $100 discount has passed. Thanks to Evan Adams and his team for submitting an early packet; let them be an example to the rest of you.
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grapesmoker wrote:The deadline for the $100 discount has passed. Thanks to Evan Adams and his team for submitting an early packet; let them be an example to the rest of you.
Err, it's 2:47 PM here. We were planning on submitting our packet tonight.

Edit: I guess on re-reading the original post it did say "before May 1st". This is unfortunate, as most deadlines are set to be both not on a Friday and to go until the end of the announced date (e.g. "submitted by May 1st").

Anyway, you should still have a packet from us tonight. Give us whatever discount you want.
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I guess, to be fair, the deadline was "before May 1st." We actually were planning on submitting our packet this evening as well, I think.
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Re: Announcement: 2010 Chicago Open, Chicago, IL (July 23-25)

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Yeah, we misread it the same way, and will have the packet to you tonight.
For those of us who didn't read carefully enough and expected the date in the post to correspond to the date the packet needed to be turned in on, can you be lenient and make a -$90 discount or something?
Your post is clear, but does differ from the vast majority of tournaments in that packets are on a Friday night instead of a Saturday or Sunday.
I'll make sure to read more carefully in the future.
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Quantum Mushroom Billiard Hat wrote:Yeah, we misread it the same way, and will have the packet to you tonight.
For those of us who didn't read carefully enough and expected the date in the post to correspond to the date the packet needed to be turned in on, can you be lenient and make a -$90 discount or something?
Your post is clear, but does differ from the vast majority of tournaments in that packets are on a Friday night instead of a Saturday or Sunday.
I'll make sure to read more carefully in the future.
Echoing this call. I just saw "May" and automatically assumed May 2 since that was the closest Sunday.

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In light of quizbowl's apparent inability to determine dates and understand the meanings of words, I will accept packets submitted before I wake up tomorrow morning for a $90 discount.
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Packets received from:

The Inexorable Sadness of Pencils (Evan Adams, Matt Bollinger, Auroni Gupta, Will Butler)
Autobiography of a Lungworm (Rutgers)
The First Citizens of Contingency (Ahmad Ragab, Gautam Kandlikar, Aaron Rosenberg, Mike Bentley)
The Great Slime Kings (Michael Hausinger, Andy Kravis, Scot Putzig, Surya Sabhapathy)
Speculative Hipsters (Libo Zeng et al.)

I haven't had the time to peruse all the packets yet. Most of them will probably get the max discount, some may not, as per my warning. It basically depends on how much of the packet I have to rewrite.
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Hey, I know people are waiting for some responses from me about packets and events such; I ask that you be patient with me for a few more days as I feverishly race to wrap up the paperwork before the Friday deadline that the graduate school set for me. Once that's done I'll start work on coordinating CO and editing.
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Re: Announcement: 2010 Chicago Open, Chicago, IL (July 23-25)

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Hey, I was really sad to see that no one had sent packets before the -$50 deadline except the people who were trying to make the early one. The -$25 deadline is coming in two weeks; I hope to see a lot of stuff in my inbox before then.
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Berkeley is interested in hosting a mirror.
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sbraunfeld wrote:Berkeley is interested in hosting a mirror.
I saw your email. I'll get back to you soon about that. It should not be a problem for Berkeley to run a mirror.
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The May 29th deadline for submitting a packet for -$25 has passed.

At this juncture in the narrative, I observe that the field appears to have stabilized to 15 teams. This is an excellent number since it allows for a full round-robin. I am going to tentatively close the field to further entrants; if there is enough demand, the field may be reopened at a later date.
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CO Lit will be on Saturday night. The arts tournament will be on Sunday night.
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Can you post the current field, Jerry?
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MLafer wrote:Can you post the current field, Jerry?
Sure thing. The following teams are currently registered for CO 2010 (teams in bold have submitted packets):

The Inexorable Sadness of Pencils (Evan Adams, Matt Bollinger, Auroni Gupta, Will Butler)
The First Citizens of Contingency (Ahmad Ragab, Gautam Kandlikar, Aaron Rosenberg, Mike Bentley)
The Great Slime Kings (Michael Hausinger, Andy Kravis, Scot Putzig, Surya Sabhapathy)
Speculative Hipsters (Libo Zeng, Phil Guan, Kurtis Droge, Mike Cheyne)
The Solid Scholars (Jonathan Magin, Seth Teitler, Selene Koo, Bruce Arthur)
The Way a Ghost Dissolves (Henry Gorman, Thomas Littrell, Benji Nguyen, Chris Romero)
The Gorilla Wrestles with the Superman (Matt Weiner, Dallas Simons, Richard Mason, Kevin Koai)
An Orderly Universe of Discoverable Laws (Matt Lafer, Ryan Westbrook, Ike Jose, Andrew Hart)
A Blue Sky Out of the Oresteia (Chris Ray, Chris White, Michael Arnold, Andrew Ullsperger)
This Octopus Exploits Women (Trevor Davis, Rob Carson, Eric Mukherjee, John Lawrence)
Great Unaffected Vampires (Eric Kwartler, Evan Nagler, Ian Eppler, Trygve Meade)
This Civilising Love of Death (Brendan Byrne, Charles Meigs, Mike Sorice, Ray Luo)
Academicus Anaemicus (Charles Hang, Mark Schneider, Gabrielle Lachtrup)
A Tall Man Executes a Jig (Carsten Gehring, Stephen Liu, David Seal, Charlie Rosenthal)
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I would be remiss in my duty as editor if I didn't use this opportunity to remind everyone that the June 12 deadline is coming up this weekend. That is the no penalty deadline, and as you can see, lots of teams have yet to submit packets. Please don't wait until the last minute to do so.
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grapesmoker wrote: There are currently 16 teams, as you can see. This is kind of an inconvenient number, so what I would like to see is for the field to either consolidate itself into 15 teams or add one more team to make 17.
I was under the impression that the Charlie Rosenthal/Joseph Hansen team folded (as mentioned in the matchmaking thread), which was why I signed up our team to bring the number of teams back to 15.
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Charbroil wrote:
grapesmoker wrote: There are currently 16 teams, as you can see. This is kind of an inconvenient number, so what I would like to see is for the field to either consolidate itself into 15 teams or add one more team to make 17.
I was under the impression that the Charlie Rosenthal/Joseph Hansen team folded (as mentioned in the matchmaking thread), which was why I signed up our team to bring the number of teams back to 15.
I see. I didn't really pay attention to that thread and the spreadsheet hadn't been updated to reflect this fact. In that case, I'm declaring team A Complete Concordance dissolved, bringing the number of teams down to 15. This is good.
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Well, the no-penalty deadline has passed and I've only got one additional packet. How about that.
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grapesmoker wrote:Well, the no-penalty deadline has passed and I've only got one additional packet. How about that.
I do not object to rolling in dollars.
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Can the teams that submitted packets get a retroactive FURTHER DISCOUNT?
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grapesmoker wrote:Well, the no-penalty deadline has passed and I've only got one additional packet. How about that.
Was that our packet?
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gyre and gimble wrote:
grapesmoker wrote:Well, the no-penalty deadline has passed and I've only got one additional packet. How about that.
Was that our packet?
Our team is bolded, so I would assume yes.
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OctagonJoe wrote:
gyre and gimble wrote:
grapesmoker wrote:Well, the no-penalty deadline has passed and I've only got one additional packet. How about that.
Was that our packet?
Our team is bolded, so I would assume yes.
Whoops, didn't see that.
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Cheynem wrote:Can the teams that submitted packets get a retroactive FURTHER DISCOUNT?
That isn't even the most inventive way people have been trying to weasel money out of me.

I'm just going to keep updating that original post with the packet list as they come in.
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Jerry will you give me money for not writing you any questions at all?
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The Granny wrote:Jerry will you give me money for not writing you any questions at all?
No but I wi--
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Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:
The Granny wrote:Jerry will you give me money for not writing you any questions at all?
No but I wi--
Your plan is going to fail so hard when I'm the only one actually physically present at CO to collect money.

Write packets!
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The June 26th deadline is in two days. You guys want this tournament to happen or what?
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I would like to offer my services as a free agent. For example, two teams have not listed their fourth players. I could also help out with various fractions of that team's packet, for it appears that 24/24 need to be submitted by Friday, July 2, rather than by Saturday, July 3.

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EncyclopediaCDRom wrote:I would like to offer my services as a free agent. For example, two teams have not listed their fourth players. I could also help out with various fractions of that team's packet, for it appears that 24/24 need to be submitted by Friday, July 2, rather than by Saturday, July 3.
All deadlines refer to the last day of submission, so the July 3rd deadline expires at 12 AM on July 4th.
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I apologize for the rather late notice, but I would be interested in participating as a free agent, and would be able to send off a few questions in case of emergency.
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Hey people!

Today is the last day to submit packets unless you've gotten an extension from me. Only one team has so far gotten an extension (Hang et al.), which means that there are multiple teams that have not submitted packets and have not asked for an extension. This is pretty bad! So if you're going to ask for an extension, you'd better do so by the end of the weekend, because I really will start dropping teams that think they can submit packets 3 days before the tournament without asking for permission to do so. You have been duly warned.
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After some thought, I've decided to extend the final deadline until the end of the long weekend, which is Monday the 5th. If you need time beyond this, you must notify me with a request for an extension.
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I just want to point out that 4 teams have yet to give me any indication of when they plan to submit their packets. The deadline is tonight. Please don't leave me guessing or waiting until the last minutes, that totally sucks!
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Our packet will be in later tonight, likely after midnight but not excessively so.
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Ukonvasara wrote:Our packet will be in later tonight, likely after midnight but not excessively so.
The same for ours.
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While most teams have finally submitted packets, there are still two delinquents: Sorice et al. and Dees et al. Someone from those teams should really contact me and explain what's going on, because that's pretty ridiculous.
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grapesmoker wrote: Sorice et al.
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Re: Announcement: 2010 Chicago Open, Chicago, IL (July 23-25)

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Hey, I'm totally fucking serious here. I don't have internet at home right now (or, rather, I'm leaching from a nearby hotspot) so I don't have time to chase either of those people around. So if you have had any contact with either Mike or Charlie, I would really appreciate it if you could tell them to email me and explain what the shit is going on. I've already sent emails but so far have had no responses.
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Re: Announcement: 2010 Chicago Open, Chicago, IL (July 23-25)

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I am pretty happy for the editors earn $20 a day from those teams, but yeah, this is ridiculous.
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Re: Announcement: 2010 Chicago Open, Chicago, IL (July 23-25)

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Hey Jerry, I sent you a reply a few days ago, but I gather you didn't get it. Sorry about that. Our packet is so late because I've been waiting on questions from a team member (NOT ME THIS TIME, DAVID GARB AND ASSOCIATED ASSHOLES!) which I am now, i.e. at this very moment, writing on the assumption that he's never going to send them. Sorry I didn't do that earlier - I kept expecting they'd come. I'll get you the packet tomorrow. Let me know if you need anything else from me to help make this right.

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Re: Announcement: 2010 Chicago Open, Chicago, IL (July 23-25)

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DAVID GARB AND ASSOCIATED ASSHOLES!
Jerry, requesting official change of our team name please.
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Re: Announcement: 2010 Chicago Open, Chicago, IL (July 23-25)

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Captain Sinico wrote:Hey Jerry, I sent you a reply a few days ago, but I gather you didn't get it. Sorry about that. Our packet is so late because I've been waiting on questions from a team member (NOT ME THIS TIME, DAVID GARB AND ASSOCIATED ASSHOLES!) which I am now, i.e. at this very moment, writing on the assumption that he's never going to send them. Sorry I didn't do that earlier - I kept expecting they'd come. I'll get you the packet tomorrow. Let me know if you need anything else from me to help make this right.

M
Mike, I did get your response. I should have replied back in acknowledgement. Thanks.
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