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The 2009 Intercollegiate Championship Tournament will be held in Dallas, TX on April 3-4, 2009 (Friday/Saturday). The site is the Hyatt Regency DFW at Dallas-Forth Worth International Airport.

More information is available on NAQT's website:

http://www.naqt.com/ict/2009/details.html

NAQT is also now seeking staff for the ICT; people interested in moderating are invited to contact us at [email protected].

If you have any questions about the tournament, please don't hesitate to contact us at [email protected].
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Who does this benefit location-wise?
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Agreed with Greg....
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It benefits the west coast and disadvantages the northeast. Note: is also a major air hub.
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And Dallas is a very major central airport hub, cheap fares for all, so it should get more to attend.
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dinoian wrote:And Dallas is a very major central airport hub, cheap fares for all, so it should get more to attend.
Eh, Dallas is an American Airlines fortress. I'm not so sure it's that inexpensive for people traveling long distance. Southwest does fly
to Love Field, but remember the Wright Amendment and the transit cost between DAL and DFW.
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rylltraka wrote:It benefits the west coast and disadvantages the northeast. Note: is also a major air hub.
Do California teams really plan on driving to this? It's even further from LA than it is from Washington.
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various people wrote:ICT...Dallas...American Airlines fortress
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Hey, I'm okay with it...but then again being in the middle of the country make everything easier.

Speaking of which...did people like it in StL last year? We could do it in 2010....just floating it out there...
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NotjustoldWASPs wrote: Speaking of which...did people like it in StL last year? We could do it in 2010....just floating it out there...
Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. My own admittedly regional interests aside, I think St. Louis has all the charms of Dallas (cheap airfare and lots of staff, presumably; I can see no other relevant advantages), while still allowing a sizable amount of people on a large circuit to drive conveniently. Of course, I'd say the same thing word for word about a site somewhere in Chicago.
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Penn is stuck in the airport with our flight canceled, nothing leaving for quite a few hours, and even the standby options are slim.

At this point, it is likely that we will not be at ICT at all; our best-case scenario involves missing all the prelims.

Dammit.
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Theory Of The Leisure Flask wrote:Penn is stuck in the airport with our flight canceled, nothing leaving for quite a few hours, and even the standby options are slim.

At this point, it is likely that we will not be at ICT at all; our best-case scenario involves missing all the prelims.

Dammit.
I just heard from CMU's DII team; they're in the same boat.
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Hey Chris--you may well have considered this already, but if you guys have any way of getting to Newark, you might want to see if you can get a flight out of there, as it looks like there are still some seats on flights between Newark and Dallas. A quick check online says that there are trains and some car/van services between the airports, though I don't know how fast any of it would be.
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Also, I really hope people keep events like these in mind when voting on whether to change ICT to a one-day affair.
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myamphigory wrote:Hey Chris--you may well have considered this already, but if you guys have any way of getting to Newark, you might want to see if you can get a flight out of there, as it looks like there are still some seats on flights between Newark and Dallas. A quick check online says that there are trains and some car/van services between the airports, though I don't know how fast any of it would be.
Thanks; we just looked at Newark; it saves us probably an hour at most given that we're at least two hours away from EWR at the moment, which doesn't do much.

Also: tickets at $850 PER PERSON. ONE-WAY. Whow.
myamphigory wrote:Also, I really hope people keep events like these in mind when voting on whether to change ICT to a one-day affair.
THIS. (ACF Nats should be one day, too. But that's another banana.)
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Update: we're still coming, but we won't be able to get in until 10 PM. Newark would save us an hour, but we cant afford to pay $3000, which is what it would cost. Matt Bruce has indicated that it might be possible to play some makeup rounds; if at least some of the teams that have us in rounds 1 through 5 or 6 are willing to do that; it would be incredibly awesome.
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dschafer wrote:
Theory Of The Leisure Flask wrote:Penn is stuck in the airport with our flight canceled, nothing leaving for quite a few hours, and even the standby options are slim.

At this point, it is likely that we will not be at ICT at all; our best-case scenario involves missing all the prelims.

Dammit.
I just heard from CMU's DII team; they're in the same boat.
Update: CMU DII is on the bus back to CMU.
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Fragmentary stuff I know:

Harvard 7-0, Stanford 6-1 coming out of one bracket.
Chicago 7-0, Dartmouth 6-1 coming out of another. This bracket also featured such ICTastic events as Maryland losing to Georgia, and Georgia losing to Illinois B. SECOND BRACKET REPRESENT SON. Also Georgia, Maryland, and Toronto where in this bracket last year and we are really just damned tired of seeing each other's ugly faces.
Other stuff presumably happened in the other brackets, but I'm not sure what. Nobody here seems to know where the results will be posted, or when this will occur. I really, really, really hope any pertinent info gets posted here. At last call Minnesota A was involved in a game-determining protest vs. Harvard B, and I think Illinois is undefeated from their bracket, but don't quote me on that.

Oh, update on the Penn situation: Penn rolled in after the last prelim. It was decided that Penn's first 3 games would be postponed until tomorrow morning, so a bunch of teams are now being forced to get up 1-2 hours before the scheduled start time to make them up. If any of those teams subsequently become involved in a tiebreaker, we're mostly assuming that the world will be sucked into hell.

I'm going to go back to enjoying my $4 water and $5 croissant, because Mike Bentley disappeared all the bargain $3 bagels. By the way NEVER HOST THE ICT HERE AGAIN WHAT WERE YOU THINKING.
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DumbJaques wrote:Fragmentary stuff I know:

Harvard 7-0, Stanford 6-1 coming out of one bracket.
Chicago 7-0, Dartmouth 6-1 coming out of another. This bracket also featured such ICTastic events as Maryland losing to Georgia, and Georgia losing to Illinois B. SECOND BRACKET REPRESENT SON. Also Georgia, Maryland, and Toronto where in this bracket last year and we are really just damned tired of seeing each other's ugly faces.
Other stuff presumably happened in the other brackets, but I'm not sure what. Nobody here seems to know where the results will be posted, or when this will occur. I really, really, really hope any pertinent info gets posted here. At last call Minnesota A was involved in a game-determining protest vs. Harvard B, and I think Illinois is undefeated from their bracket, but don't quote me on that.

Oh, update on the Penn situation: Penn rolled in after the last prelim. It was decided that Penn's first 3 games would be postponed until tomorrow morning, so a bunch of teams are now being forced to get up 1-2 hours before the scheduled start time to make them up. If any of those teams subsequently become involved in a tiebreaker, we're mostly assuming that the world will be sucked into hell.

I'm going to go back to enjoying my $4 water and $5 croissant, because Mike Bentley disappeared all the bargain $3 bagels. By the way NEVER HOST THE ICT HERE AGAIN WHAT WERE YOU THINKING.
Minnesota is 6-1, and Illinois is 7-0
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Illinois A is undefeated at the moment. Carleton is 6-1 in the same bracket.

And really, who the f*ck decided to put a national championship in someplace that's not the Midwest or the Northeast/Mid Atlantic? That's where all the quizbowl is, and that's where all the big events should be.
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tetragrammatology wrote:
DumbJaques wrote:Fragmentary stuff I know:

Harvard 7-0, Stanford 6-1 coming out of one bracket.
Chicago 7-0, Dartmouth 6-1 coming out of another. This bracket also featured such ICTastic events as Maryland losing to Georgia, and Georgia losing to Illinois B. SECOND BRACKET REPRESENT SON. Also Georgia, Maryland, and Toronto where in this bracket last year and we are really just damned tired of seeing each other's ugly faces.
Other stuff presumably happened in the other brackets, but I'm not sure what. Nobody here seems to know where the results will be posted, or when this will occur. I really, really, really hope any pertinent info gets posted here. At last call Minnesota A was involved in a game-determining protest vs. Harvard B, and I think Illinois is undefeated from their bracket, but don't quote me on that.

Oh, update on the Penn situation: Penn rolled in after the last prelim. It was decided that Penn's first 3 games would be postponed until tomorrow morning, so a bunch of teams are now being forced to get up 1-2 hours before the scheduled start time to make them up. If any of those teams subsequently become involved in a tiebreaker, we're mostly assuming that the world will be sucked into hell.

I'm going to go back to enjoying my $4 water and $5 croissant, because Mike Bentley disappeared all the bargain $3 bagels. By the way NEVER HOST THE ICT HERE AGAIN WHAT WERE YOU THINKING.
Minnesota is 6-1, and Illinois is 7-0
Yeah, confirm. We and Irvine are 6-1 (we lost to Harvard B in a hilarious combination of bad packet and bad protest resolution; Irvine lost to us).
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Are details on the protest allowed to be discussed?

Also, anyone know what's going on in D-2?
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I just want to say that the Minnesota team is uniformly disappointed in the way our protest was resolved. It boiled down to a judgment, not a dispute in facts. Hentzel acknowledged that the answer was factually correct, but said that the answer given was too general to deserve a prompt, despite it being just one level removed from the specificity demanded by the answer line.
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Ukonvasara wrote: Yeah, confirm. We and Irvine are 6-1 (we lost to Harvard B in a hilarious combination of bad packet and bad protest resolution; Irvine lost to us).
I was otherwise occupied this evening but did hear about the protest pretty much right after the resolution was made. I support the way it was handled, though. With the Penn situation, I'm guessing details shouldn't be discussed yet, but Rob, if you want to hear my take (since it was my question) before tomorrow, feel free to send me an email or something.
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vandyhawk wrote:
Ukonvasara wrote: Yeah, confirm. We and Irvine are 6-1 (we lost to Harvard B in a hilarious combination of bad packet and bad protest resolution; Irvine lost to us).
I was otherwise occupied this evening but did hear about the protest pretty much right after the resolution was made. I support the way it was handled, though. With the Penn situation, I'm guessing details shouldn't be discussed yet, but Rob, if you want to hear my take (since it was my question) before tomorrow, feel free to send me an email or something.
Yeah; I can't specifically comment on it, I guess, but--and I'm not saying this out of loyalty to our B team--I don't think it's appropriate to give the tossup to a player that gives the answer you guys did.

(I do agree that it was a bad packet, though; I wasn't a fan of a lot of things that packet 3 did.)
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everyday847 wrote:Yeah; I can't specifically comment on it, I guess, but--and I'm not saying this out of loyalty to our B team--I don't think it's appropriate to give the tossup to a player that gives the answer you guys did.
To clarify, that was not the object of the protest.
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vandyhawk wrote:
Ukonvasara wrote: Yeah, confirm. We and Irvine are 6-1 (we lost to Harvard B in a hilarious combination of bad packet and bad protest resolution; Irvine lost to us).
I was otherwise occupied this evening but did hear about the protest pretty much right after the resolution was made. I support the way it was handled, though. With the Penn situation, I'm guessing details shouldn't be discussed yet, but Rob, if you want to hear my take (since it was my question) before tomorrow, feel free to send me an email or something.
Sure, I'd be interested in hearing your take. What's your email address?
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DumbJaques wrote:Fragmentary stuff I know:

Harvard 7-0, Stanford 6-1 coming out of one bracket.
Chicago 7-0, Dartmouth 6-1 coming out of another. This bracket also featured such ICTastic events as Maryland losing to Georgia, and Georgia losing to Illinois B. SECOND BRACKET REPRESENT SON. Also Georgia, Maryland, and Toronto where in this bracket last year and we are really just damned tired of seeing each other's ugly faces.
Other stuff presumably happened in the other brackets, but I'm not sure what. Nobody here seems to know where the results will be posted, or when this will occur. I really, really, really hope any pertinent info gets posted here. At last call Minnesota A was involved in a game-determining protest vs. Harvard B, and I think Illinois is undefeated from their bracket, but don't quote me on that.

Oh, update on the Penn situation: Penn rolled in after the last prelim. It was decided that Penn's first 3 games would be postponed until tomorrow morning, so a bunch of teams are now being forced to get up 1-2 hours before the scheduled start time to make them up. If any of those teams subsequently become involved in a tiebreaker, we're mostly assuming that the world will be sucked into hell.

I'm going to go back to enjoying my $4 water and $5 croissant, because Mike Bentley disappeared all the bargain $3 bagels. By the way NEVER HOST THE ICT HERE AGAIN WHAT WERE YOU THINKING.
We've actually gotten Rounds 1 and 2 done already. While it's probably not realistic to try and rouse Texas for a Round 4 makeup (since we probably have the time now), it would sure be nice.
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Try the buffet, folks!
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The one redeeming thing about the Best Western we're staying at is that the breakfast is complementary. Unlike the Hyatt, where every customer is presumed to have infinity dollars (which may explain why Paul and UChicago are staying there).
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Paper stats were posted. DI top bracket is mn a, irvine, ill a*, mit, chicago a*, dartmouth, harvard a*, stanford. *teams are undefeated, others have 1 loss.

DII is michigan*, chicago b, rpi*, osu-mcmaster winner being determined (2 losses), yale, carleton-davidson-wustl winner being determined (2 losses), chicago a*, and princeton

Tiebreakers are still going on, rd 9 to start when that's done
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Ukonvasara wrote:
vandyhawk wrote:
Ukonvasara wrote: Yeah, confirm. We and Irvine are 6-1 (we lost to Harvard B in a hilarious combination of bad packet and bad protest resolution; Irvine lost to us).
I was otherwise occupied this evening but did hear about the protest pretty much right after the resolution was made. I support the way it was handled, though. With the Penn situation, I'm guessing details shouldn't be discussed yet, but Rob, if you want to hear my take (since it was my question) before tomorrow, feel free to send me an email or something.
Sure, I'd be interested in hearing your take. What's your email address?
I think I signed off right around the time of this post. I talked to Andrew on IM, though, so I'm guessing he relayed that conversation.
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DI
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1M Minnesota A 6-1
2M Cal-Irvine 6-1
3M FSU 5-2
4M Harvard B 5-2
5M Texas 3-4
?M Penn 1-5 (makeup game v Bama)
?M Yale 1-6
?M Alabama 0-5 (makeup v Penn)

Penn-Bama at 9, tiebreak for 6-8 at 9:30 if necessary, ties not affecting playoff
tier are PPTH

1C Illinois A 7-0
2C MIT 6-1
3C Carleton 5-2
4C UCLA 4-3
5C Minnesota B 3-4
?? Princeton 1-6
?? Oklahoma 1-6
?? Tulane 1-6

Oklahoma-Tulane half game 9:30 winner v. Princeton half-game

1A Chicago A 7-0
2A Dartmouth 6-1
3A Maryland 4-3
4A Georgia 4-3
5A Toronto 3-4
6A Michigan 2-5
7A Tulsa 1-6
8A Illinois B 1-6

1P Harvard A 7-0
2P Stanford 6-1
3P Chicago B 5-2
4P Florida 4-3
5P WUStL 3-4
6P Queen's 2-5
7P Cornell 1-6
8P Delaware 0-7

UG: Harvard A, Minnesota A, Dartmouth all made top tier

DII
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1G Michigan 7-0
2G Chicago B 6-1
3G Valencia A 5-2
4G Arizona State 4-3
5G CWRU 3-4
6G Chipola A 2-5
7G Alabama 1-6
8G Mississippi State B 0-7

1R RPI 7-0
?? Ohio State 5-2
?? McMaster 5-2
4R Davidson B 4-3
5R Northwestern 3-4
6R UCLA 3-4
7R Broward 1-6
8R bye 0-7

1T Yale 7-0
?? Carleton 5-2
?? Davidson A 5-2
?? WUStL 5-2
5T JSR 3-4
6T Gonzaga 2-5
7T Chipola B 1-6
8T Minnesota B 0-7

1F Chicago A 7-0
2F Princeton 5-2
3F Miami (OH) 4-3
4F NE Alabama 4-3
5F Maryland 3-4
6F Mississippi State A 2-5
7F Vanderbilt 2-5
8F Valencia B 0-7
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After r11 we are taking a lunch break

MN A is still at 1 loss. Harvard, Illinois, and Chicago are all undefeated.

In D2 I assume Aaron Cohen is getting points a lot. He knows things.

We resume with a SURVEY at 1pm.
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ALSO WHY THE HELL IS THIS IN DALLAS AIRPORT?!
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bt_green_warbler wrote:8P Delaware 0-7
Yay... :roll:
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D1 final between Chicago and Illinois
UG final between Harvard and MN. Harvard advantaged.
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Illinois beat Chicago in game one of the D1 final, a second game is going.
Minnesota beat Harvard in game one if the UG final, a second game is going. The winner of this game gets UG and 3rd overall
Chicago beats Michigan the D2 final.
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Harvard wins UG and 3rd place overall.
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Chicago beats Illinois in the second game of an advantaged final to win DI.
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I'll confirm the results posted by Susan and Chris above, and also note that Northeast Alabama won the CC title outright.
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We get live stats next year, right?
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