ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
This Andrew guy showed up and is playing on the Stanford team. He seems pretty OK at quizbowl.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
I should have mentioned that our first round was played in a room without a working power outlet, so we played slapbowl. Our third game (fourth round) against Illinois had six total buzzers, so Jeff Crean and I played slapbowl. The round that is about to begin, we are in a room that has five total buzzers (started out with six, one broke). Why is this happening
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
Andrew, get your shit straight. IL A beat Missouri 110-75.everyday847 wrote:Only information I have so far: Harvard 2-1, having defeated Ike and Matt Chadbourne and lost to Illinois A; Dees has lost at least one game (to Illinois A by like sixty points); Dartmouth lost to VCU; Dartmouth beat UCLA; Dartmouth beat Yetman.
We have played three games in four rounds. Whee!
After 4 rounds:
Cause and Effect bracket:
Brown 3-0
Stanford, MN A, UMD, MIT 3-1 (Stanford dropped to Chicago B 185-150, MN A dropped to Stanford 295-75), UMD dropped to MIT 195-115, MIT dropped to Brown 345-40)
UCSD, South Carolina 2-2
Chi B 1-2
Rutgers 1-3
Brandeis 0-2
Penn, TSU 0-3
Audacious Navigator bracket:
Chicago A, Illinois A 4-0
Dartmouth, Missouri 3-1 (Dartmouth dropped to VCU 190-175)
Harvard, VCU 2-1 (Harvard dropped to Illinois 235-155, VCU dropped to Chicago A 250-65)
CMU, MSU 2-2
Minnesota B 1-2
Ike Jose 1-3
Hunter College 0-3
Missouri S&T, UCLA 0-4
Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
Individuals:
Jerry Vinokurov: 83.3 through 3
Andrew Yaphe: 76.25 through 4
Seth Teitler: 62.5 through 4
Top D2/UG:
Charlie Dees (D2): 4th overall, 61.25 through 4
Chris Ray (UG): 7th overall, 50 through 4
Evan Adams (UG): 8th overall, 48.33 through 3
Ike Jose (D2): 9th overall, 47.5 through 4
Jerry Vinokurov: 83.3 through 3
Andrew Yaphe: 76.25 through 4
Seth Teitler: 62.5 through 4
Top D2/UG:
Charlie Dees (D2): 4th overall, 61.25 through 4
Chris Ray (UG): 7th overall, 50 through 4
Evan Adams (UG): 8th overall, 48.33 through 3
Ike Jose (D2): 9th overall, 47.5 through 4
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
For the playoffs, is the only stat that matters win/loss versus other teams in your playoff bracket? For instance, if Stanford makes the top bracket and Chicago B does not, is Stanford essentially not penalized for losing that game?
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
ok, my curiosity is piqued... what is going on at this tournament?
round delays? the worst run acf nationals in history I believe has to be georgia tech 03... is 09 in the running?
round delays? the worst run acf nationals in history I believe has to be georgia tech 03... is 09 in the running?
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
So far, yes. I didn't get there until about 9:20 for various reasons; my bracket had issues in round 2, as some people had damaged files, so I had to arrange for one reader to get a good copy to other rooms. Some teams in my bracket didn't finish the round before lunch until 2, and I told moderators that teams were to be back by 2:15, yet some told teams 2:30.AuguryMarch wrote:ok, my curiosity is piqued... what is going on at this tournament?
round delays? the worst run acf nationals in history I believe has to be georgia tech 03... is 09 in the running?
EDIT: I would also like to state Donald Taylor's theory of tournaments: if you can't get the entire tournament in one building, don't run the tournament.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
The big delay in the morning happened because I took a schedule off a cache of the old collegequizbowl.com schedule directory that turned out to be riddled with errors (a team playing in two rooms in the same round, etc). Fortunately, a team caught this before we started playing; unfortunately, it took an hour to redo the schedule and print it out. We aso wasted some time waiting for McMaster to show up, as they registered, didn't respond to my "if you actually don't want to come to this tournament tell me now so you don't fuck up the schedule" email earlier this week, and then no-showed. We may? be getting back on track now but we didn't start round 1 until after 10:30 so we were put in the hole at the start of the day.
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As you may have guessed, there are also buzzer problems.AuguryMarch wrote:ok, my curiosity is piqued... what is going on at this tournament?
round delays? the worst run acf nationals in history I believe has to be georgia tech 03... is 09 in the running?
Hopefully this tournament won't be as disastrous in non-quizbowl ways for Chicago as Nats '03 was.
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Dare I ask what you mean by that?myamphigory wrote:disastrous in non-quizbowl ways
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
Chris--
1. My wallet was stolen at the airport on the way into the tournament; in the half hour between it being stolen and my noticing it and calling my bank, $900 in charges had been rung up on my debit card. Also, I had to have my passport overnighted down so that I could be sure of being able to get on a plane home.
2. When we arrived at our hotel, we realized that we were sharing the hotel with a Chicago-based children's group that we'd butted heads with a number of times about room reservations (there was some recurring issue that caused both this group and our tournaments to be allotted the same rooms a bunch of times), so there was a lot of skulking around the hotel avoiding talking to people.
3. Some poor planning led to our sending a first-year who had never played a tournament before to play this on our B team; not only was this a very difficult, messy tournament for one's first collegiate quizbowl experience, but to add insult to injury I believe she fell in a ditch or something on the GT campus and hurt herself.
4. A teammate of mine was horrified at lunch when he went to use the bathroom in the Quizno's (which must have been the nearest dining establishment to campus, because it seemed like the whole tournament was there) and heard a frantic knock on the door, which ended up being a player on another team who had left his sandwich sitting on top of the toilet.
4. Some creepiness.
1. My wallet was stolen at the airport on the way into the tournament; in the half hour between it being stolen and my noticing it and calling my bank, $900 in charges had been rung up on my debit card. Also, I had to have my passport overnighted down so that I could be sure of being able to get on a plane home.
2. When we arrived at our hotel, we realized that we were sharing the hotel with a Chicago-based children's group that we'd butted heads with a number of times about room reservations (there was some recurring issue that caused both this group and our tournaments to be allotted the same rooms a bunch of times), so there was a lot of skulking around the hotel avoiding talking to people.
3. Some poor planning led to our sending a first-year who had never played a tournament before to play this on our B team; not only was this a very difficult, messy tournament for one's first collegiate quizbowl experience, but to add insult to injury I believe she fell in a ditch or something on the GT campus and hurt herself.
4. A teammate of mine was horrified at lunch when he went to use the bathroom in the Quizno's (which must have been the nearest dining establishment to campus, because it seemed like the whole tournament was there) and heard a frantic knock on the door, which ended up being a player on another team who had left his sandwich sitting on top of the toilet.
4. Some creepiness.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
For future reference: http://www.devenezia.com/downloads/roun ... rounds.phpMatt Weiner wrote:The big delay in the morning happened because I took a schedule off a cache of the old collegequizbowl.com schedule directory that turned out to be riddled with errors (a team playing in two rooms in the same round, etc).
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
What's the format for what's happening after these two prelim groups? Crossover playoffs tomorrow?
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
What happened in Round 2? 120 PPG per team? Who's packet was used then?
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That packet was really hard.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
yeah, there were a lot of dead tossups that round
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8:15 AM playoff games are:
MIT v Chicago B for last top-bracket spot out of Cause and Effect prelim bracket
Dartmouth v VCU for last top-bracket spot out of Audacious Navigator prelim bracket
Carnegie Mellon v Hunter for last third-bracket spot out of Audacious Navigator prelim bracket
Round 14 starts for everyone at 8:45. There will be four playoff games, with the goal to get them done and have finals or tiebreakers for such started at 11 AM.
MIT v Chicago B for last top-bracket spot out of Cause and Effect prelim bracket
Dartmouth v VCU for last top-bracket spot out of Audacious Navigator prelim bracket
Carnegie Mellon v Hunter for last third-bracket spot out of Audacious Navigator prelim bracket
Round 14 starts for everyone at 8:45. There will be four playoff games, with the goal to get them done and have finals or tiebreakers for such started at 11 AM.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
Word from HQ says Dartmouth and MIT won their games, making the top bracket. CMU beat Hunter for the third bracket.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
Chris speaks truth. If you want live updates, join me in IRC.
Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
In the top bracket, two of the round 1 games are just starting.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
Methinks this tournament is about to surpass Georgia Tech '03 in level of fail. Good thing it is a two-day tournament this year.cdcarter wrote:In the top bracket, two of the round 1 games are just starting.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
Sources tell me there's a circle of death at the top; Chicago A vs Stanford for right to play Brown.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
Chicago A defeated Stanford in the play in-game, and is currently playing a final against Brown. The winner takes it all.
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Hey Bruce get on irc and liveblagh.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
MN beats Dart for the UG title and 4th place overall!
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
Chicago over Brown 360-160. Congratulations!
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
DII is Ike, right?
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
D2 featured Missouri and UCSD tied but within the "requires advantaged final" distance of Ike. Missouri won the play-in and the first game of the final, but lost the second on the last tossup. Ike Jose is your 2009 Division II national champion.
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Is Ike Jose University getting any good recruits this year?
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Ike Jose University is located where?
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
Wherever he happens to be.Bakery, State, and Utopia wrote:Ike Jose University is located where?
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
In a high school in the great state of Ohio.Prof.Whoopie wrote:Wherever he happens to be.Bakery, State, and Utopia wrote:Ike Jose University is located where?
Ike's accepted to UIUC and on "Priority Wait List" to Carnegie-Mellon, according to a conversation I had with him after a round.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
Stats link not working for me...
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ACF Nationals at WUSTL (Apr 25-26, 2009)
Check the discussion thread for the working link. I ended up changing the name of the folder.