The Guns of August: CO History Doubles

Skepticism and Animal Feed · Sat May 19, 2007 4:58 pm

CO History Doubles: The Guns of August will be held FRIDAY, AUGUST 3, the night before the Chicago Open main event.

I'm in the process of writing the questions. The current plan is for teams of 2 to play on mini-packets of 15 tossups and no bonuses.

If you are certain to play (not "I will play if somebody buys me a $500 ticket to Chicago", and not "I will play if you add some literature questions") please post here, so I can get some logistically useful data on that.

Thanks,
Bruce Arthur

Mike Bentley · Post by **Mike Bentley** » Sat May 19, 2007 5:21 pm

If this is Saturday night or really late on Friday night I'll play. Otherwise, I'll probably be on a plane.

Post by **DumbJaques** » Sat May 19, 2007 5:49 pm

I will play. If you hate Asia I will probably make a pretty good teammate.

grapesmoker · Post by **grapesmoker** » Sat May 19, 2007 8:44 pm

I will also play.

Post by **theMoMA** » Sat May 19, 2007 11:41 pm

I will play.

Rothlover · Post by **Rothlover** » Sun May 20, 2007 12:33 am

I'm always in.

SnookerUSF · Post by **SnookerUSF** » Sun May 20, 2007 1:50 pm

Me too.

No Rules Westbrook · Post by **No Rules Westbrook** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:13 pm

Of course I'll play.

Matt Weiner · Post by **Matt Weiner** » Sun May 20, 2007 4:39 pm

I will be playing and I already have a mystery teammate.

Captain Sinico · Post by **Captain Sinico** » Sun May 20, 2007 6:17 pm

Of course, I'll play.

Skepticism and Animal Feed · Mon May 21, 2007 7:15 pm

With the addition of one person who signed up by email, the field for this tournament is now either 10 or 11 people, depending on whether or not Matt Weiner's "mystery teammate" is somebody who posted in this thread or some random dude.

That means we should have at least 5 teams, which should go a ways to help justify our existence to mean old Mr. Teitler.

Post by **DumbJaques** » Mon May 21, 2007 7:20 pm

Is there any chance of upping the tossup count to 20 or adding bonuses? Not that it's a criticism, as your undertaking this tournament after it seemed doomed is very admirable, but 15 tossups seems really, really short. I personally wouldn't be opposed to writing 5/5 or something per player, though other people might not agree.

Skepticism and Animal Feed · Mon May 21, 2007 7:31 pm

Adding bonuses should not be much of a problem.

ktour84 · Post by **ktour84** » Mon May 21, 2007 9:05 pm

I'm in.

Skepticism and Animal Feed · Mon May 21, 2007 9:18 pm

Ray Luo has informed me that he seeks a partner for this tournament who is good at American history. If that's you, you should contact him.

canaanbananarama · Post by **canaanbananarama** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:14 pm

I'll play, too.

Skepticism and Animal Feed · Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:56 pm

As Seth Teitler said in an earlier announcement, this will be held on FRIDAY NIGHT, or the evening before the Chicago Open main event.

Right now, we have either 12 or 13 players, which means at least six teams. Are there any volunteers for readers?

Jeremy Gibbs Lemma · Post by **Jeremy Gibbs Lemma** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:09 pm

I could probably read because I do not know if I would be of any use as a player in this one.

Rothlover · Post by **Rothlover** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:59 pm

This should be good.

Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) · Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:14 pm

I guess I can either be a free agent or if no one wants that I'll read.

Jeremy Gibbs Lemma · Post by **Jeremy Gibbs Lemma** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:18 pm

Chuq, I would play with you if you want to play but I really don't know if I would get anything.

magin · Post by **magin** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:44 pm

I'm pretty sure I can read for this.

setht · Post by **setht** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:09 pm

It sounds like there are plenty of volunteer readers, but I can also help read.

-Seth

Skepticism and Animal Feed · Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:27 am

If you have signed up to play or to staff, please email me a confirmation of your plans to attend, including your name and, if you have that information yet, who you will be playing with.

I apologize for the double confirmation process, but this will allow me to get into contact with players/staffers much more easily and precisely.

I can be reached at

barthur -AT- jd10 -DOT- law -DOT- harvard -DOT- edu

Thanks!

Skepticism and Animal Feed · Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:40 pm

The following have confirmed via email:

Matt Lafer/Ryan Westbrook
Andrew Hart/Rob Carson
Ahmad Ragab/Rob Fernandez
Matt Weiner/Mystery Teammate*
Andy Wehrman/Noah Graf
Passner/Kwartler
Jerry Vinokurov/Charles Meigs
Rom Masrour/Tim Hartman

Free Agents:
Ray Luo
Mike Sorice
Lorin Burte

I know there are others who have posted in this thread but have not confirmed. I would ask that you take the minute or so and do the email confirmation. One day, when I have all of your emails, it will allow me to contact all of you more directly and end the days of me spamming this thread.

* I know who Weiner's mystery teammate is, but I won't say it since I'm unsure of whether they want to keep it a surprise or not.

vandyhawk · Post by **vandyhawk** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:09 pm

Bruce, any word on starting time and entry fee? It looks like I'll be traveling sans wife, so if there's room, I can potentially play more than just the main event now instead of visiting the in-laws.

Skepticism and Animal Feed · Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:20 pm

$10 per team

Ask Seth Teitler about starting time.

Awehrman · Post by **Awehrman** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:38 pm

By the way, that's Andy Wehrman and not Mike Wehrman teamed with Noah Graf. I hoped that Mike would be able to come, but he's being a loser and working on his lousy dissertation in New Haven.

grapesmoker · Post by **grapesmoker** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:24 am

Can someone give the actual time that history doubles will start? It influences my ticket purchase.

setht · Post by **setht** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:11 pm

We can get into the rooms at 6 pm on Friday night, so we can start any time after that. If people want to start earlier, let me know and I'll see if we can get in earlier.

-Seth

Post by **theMoMA** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:57 pm

I don't know if this is a lot of people, but the Minnesota contingent will be driving down on Friday morning and arriving in the afternoon, so times before six really don't work out well at all.

Jeremy Gibbs Lemma · Post by **Jeremy Gibbs Lemma** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:50 pm

The Missouri contingent will be around as we are coming Thursday to be tourists on Friday during the day.

If someone who does not care about winning too much wants a newb teammate, I am still available but I will read if nobody wants to play with me.

grapesmoker · Post by **grapesmoker** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:57 pm

setht wrote:We can get into the rooms at 6 pm on Friday night, so we can start any time after that. If people want to start earlier, let me know and I'll see if we can get in earlier.

-Seth

6:00 is good for me, hopefully there won't be any great number of people demanding earlier times.

Skepticism and Animal Feed · Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:24 pm

6:00 PM works for me.

vandyhawk · Post by **vandyhawk** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:22 pm

How long is this likely to last? Can everyone get there by 6:00?

Skepticism and Animal Feed · Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:09 pm

So, assuming the current list of teams and players is the same as the players and teams that show up, we have 10 teams, with one of Mike Sorice, Ray Luo, or Lorin Burte being forced to play solo.

How many rooms and rounds is this going to require, assuming the number stays 10?

No Rules Westbrook · Post by **No Rules Westbrook** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:23 am

Hmm, I worry that you're asking us how many rooms and rounds (especially rounds, since you're presumably writing the number of questions for however many rounds you desire), but...

With 10 teams, you'd need 5 rooms - 2 teams per room playing each other. As for rounds, for a full round robin, you'd need 9 rounds. And then you could potentially have some kind of playoff round(s) after that, or whatever you want to do.

Skepticism and Animal Feed · Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:14 pm

Congrats to The Brusilov Offensive (Vinokurov, Miegs) for going undefeated and winning the tournament.

But the true stars were the people who gave up their free time to moderate or scorekeep. So let's give them a big round of e-applause.

pray for elves · Post by **pray for elves** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:07 am

Dare I ask who the Mystery Teammate of Matt Weiner was, for those of us not lucky enough to be in Chicago?

Skepticism and Animal Feed · Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:18 am

DeisEvan wrote:Dare I ask who the Mystery Teammate of Matt Weiner was, for those of us not lucky enough to be in Chicago?

Chris Ray.

Who also won the neg prize.

Sima Guang Hater · Post by **Sima Guang Hater** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:48 pm

Bruce wrote:
DeisEvan wrote:Dare I ask who the Mystery Teammate of Matt Weiner was, for those of us not lucky enough to be in Chicago?
Chris Ray.

Who also won the neg prize.

No surprise there. I look forward to seeing his 20 negs on the results page.

Post by **DumbJaques** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:55 pm

I believe that in both subject area tournaments, I narrowly beat out Mike for the neg prize (I think by ~2). Rau Luo's miraculous presence at the "science tournament" ensured I didn't make a clean sweep. All in all, my goal of beating Freeburg's ratio was realized, despite me negging the final question in a lit game against Lafer and Westrbook when we were up 15. I rule.

Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) · Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:13 pm

Hey Chris FYI Freeburg's better than you am irite?