Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:59 pm
One thing I remember from the HSNCT a few years back was that the rush to get through tossups led to inconsistencies in reading quality. Is this a problem in the college game too?
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I found the idea really interesting when you first mentioned it. I just wonder how the transition from tossups to bonuses would be handled.QuizbowlPostmodernist wrote:I'm telling you. Record Hentzel reading the questions on tape/CD/mp3/whatever. One staffer per room to keep score, run the clock, and handle the tape/cd/mp3 player. It will be our substitute for the Quizbowl of the Future until they finish the HentzelBot 5000 with free Matt Bruce statkeeper with kung fu grip.
Two instances of Winamp, each tossup and bonus is recorded as a separate file.Rothlover wrote:I found the idea really interesting when you first mentioned it. I just wonder how the transition from tossups to bonuses would be handled.QuizbowlPostmodernist wrote:I'm telling you. Record Hentzel reading the questions on tape/CD/mp3/whatever. One staffer per room to keep score, run the clock, and handle the tape/cd/mp3 player. It will be our substitute for the Quizbowl of the Future until they finish the HentzelBot 5000 with free Matt Bruce statkeeper with kung fu grip.
Admittedly, I was semi-kidding when I mentioned it, but I envision some sort of software used in conjunction with a buzzer system that plugs into a laptop. The software also records how early into a tossup a team buzzes as additional data for tiebreakers and ICT bid selection.Rothlover wrote:I found the idea really interesting when you first mentioned it. I just wonder how the transition from tossups to bonuses would be handled.QuizbowlPostmodernist wrote:I'm telling you. Record Hentzel reading the questions on tape/CD/mp3/whatever. One staffer per room to keep score, run the clock, and handle the tape/cd/mp3 player. It will be our substitute for the Quizbowl of the Future until they finish the HentzelBot 5000 with free Matt Bruce statkeeper with kung fu grip.
The (stat)keeper is where it's at!QuizbowlPostmodernist wrote:with free Matt Bruce statkeeper with kung fu grip.
This sounds something like JoeQuiz, a Canadian technological innovation that we tried to use in the Trans-Canada Championship Matches in 2005 and 2006. Unfortunately, the first time, we had some network problems that prevented us from using JoeQuiz, and the second time, after we did get JoeQuiz to start up, it crashed after every tossup.QuizbowlPostmodernist wrote:Admittedly, I was semi-kidding when I mentioned it, but I envision some sort of software used in conjunction with a buzzer system that plugs into a laptop. The software also records how early into a tossup a team buzzes as additional data for tiebreakers and ICT bid selection.Rothlover wrote:I found the idea really interesting when you first mentioned it. I just wonder how the transition from tossups to bonuses would be handled.QuizbowlPostmodernist wrote:I'm telling you. Record Hentzel reading the questions on tape/CD/mp3/whatever. One staffer per room to keep score, run the clock, and handle the tape/cd/mp3 player. It will be our substitute for the Quizbowl of the Future until they finish the HentzelBot 5000 with free Matt Bruce statkeeper with kung fu grip.
An individual file for each question. Software starts a tossup being read. Someone buzzes. Software immediately pauses the audio file mid-word. Moderator clicks on who buzzed and whether or not the player answered correctly. If correct, software moves on to the next bonus. If not, software restarts the tossup (maybe rewinding a second or some other time fragment) and the question is completed for the other team.
I'm not sure how this would make for good quizbowl, but I'll try to answer your question. My experience with holography amounts to avoiding doing that lab both in grad school and as an undergrad, but I have a foggy understanding of how it works.Bruce wrote:My apologies for being so speculative in a thread that's trying to become serious again, but I gotta ask.
Jerry (or any other science person): How far away are we from real-time communication via Holograms, like in Star Wars? Because that would make for good quizbowl.
A fortune you say? I bet chicago can only fit three into their budget then. I wonder who they'd pick.grapesmoker wrote:I'm not sure how this would make for good quizbowl, but I'll try to answer your question. My experience with holography amounts to avoiding doing that lab both in grad school and as an undergrad, but I have a foggy understanding of how it works.Bruce wrote:My apologies for being so speculative in a thread that's trying to become serious again, but I gotta ask.
Jerry (or any other science person): How far away are we from real-time communication via Holograms, like in Star Wars? Because that would make for good quizbowl.
Basically, the sort of holography you're thinking of requires scattering a beam from the object, usually a laser beam, although it can be done with other light sources. The equipment required for holography is quite cumbersome for even small objects, and would be unwieldy for the purposes of quizbowl (not to mention that it would cost a fortune). Furthermore as I understand it real time holography would require very high data transfer rates, well beyond what is available on your average campus wireless connection. I think until those two problems are overcome, it won't really be viable at all; of course, I have no idea when this might happen, but I suspect not in the next 10 years.
I think that the data transfer issue is secondary to the capture and display issues (which I know nothing about); if you can paramaterize the surface well and just transfer deltas (as is done with most video codecs), it shouldn't be that big of an issue. Even if it were raw voxels, I think there are "good enough" compression schemes to transport it over most university Internet connections.grapesmoker wrote:Furthermore as I understand it real time holography would require very high data transfer rates, well beyond what is available on your average campus wireless connection.
I suspect even Chicago's budget on infinity dollars would be strained by the purchase of such an installation.Rothlover wrote:A fortune you say? I bet chicago can only fit three into their budget then. I wonder who they'd pick.
no timers?grapesmoker wrote:I suspect even Chicago's budget on infinity dollars would be strained by the purchase of such an installation.Rothlover wrote:A fortune you say? I bet chicago can only fit three into their budget then. I wonder who they'd pick.
Seriously though, like I was saying: two instances of Winamp, with Hentzel recorded reading tossups and bonuses. What could be easier?
Come on, we're talking about realistic solutions here Getting NAQT to abolish the clock ranks somewhere alongside building a perpetual motion machine in terms of probability.Rothlover wrote:no timers?grapesmoker wrote:I suspect even Chicago's budget on infinity dollars would be strained by the purchase of such an installation.Rothlover wrote:A fortune you say? I bet chicago can only fit three into their budget then. I wonder who they'd pick.
Seriously though, like I was saying: two instances of Winamp, with Hentzel recorded reading tossups and bonuses. What could be easier?