Listory: Summer Side Event
Listory: Summer Side Event
I am happy to announce Listory, a history and literature side event designed to be played during the second summer open weekend. The writing team for the set includes myself, Jason Cheng, Vasa Clarke, and Jason Golfinos.
The format (which is a bit wacky, but should be fun) will be packets of 20 tossups with two-part, related bonuses. Tossups will be powermarked, and bonus parts will be worth ten points each. Our goal is for the set to have 12 packets upon completion. Bonus part length will be a bit shorter on average than for a normal set, in the interest of time. Our forecast is to have 1/3 of the set complete by the end of this month, 2/3 by the end of June, and be finished with the writing by the end of July. The set is currently 210/240 complete (as of 6/30).
The intended difficulty of the set will be regular plus, in accordance with the tradition of the second summer open and normal collegiate side events. We are planning to have 2/3 of tossup answer lines be plausible regular difficulty answer lines- not counting bell-curve harder stuff as regular difficulty, and noting that the tossups in this set may be clued a bit harder than regular difficulty, given the setting and the expected field. Of the remaining 1/3 of answer lines, at least half will be "regular plus" and not "CO or CO plus" level. Bonuses will have an "easy" and a "hard" part, with the easy part being no harder than a middle part at regular difficulty. The overall goal difficulty-wise is to create a tournament that someone who enjoys playing either literature or history questions at regular difficulty or above can enjoy. Obviously, there will be a few very tough answer lines, but that will not be the norm.
The distribution being used, per packet, is approximately:
10 Literature:
2.5 American
2.5 British
2.5 European
1.25 World
1.25 Other / Any / Grab Bag / Trash / More of the Above
10 History:
2.25 American
4.25 European
2.25 World
1.25 Other / Any / Grab Bag / Trash / More of the Above
Basically, this resembles the ACF distribution except that there's a bit more allowance for mixed and hybrid questions. There are also reasonable subdistribution requirements; for example, the American literature questions won't contain zero poetry or drama tossups. A final note is that the trash in this tournament will be connected to literature or history, and will be on at least somewhat culturally relevant topics.
The format (which is a bit wacky, but should be fun) will be packets of 20 tossups with two-part, related bonuses. Tossups will be powermarked, and bonus parts will be worth ten points each. Our goal is for the set to have 12 packets upon completion. Bonus part length will be a bit shorter on average than for a normal set, in the interest of time. Our forecast is to have 1/3 of the set complete by the end of this month, 2/3 by the end of June, and be finished with the writing by the end of July. The set is currently 210/240 complete (as of 6/30).
The intended difficulty of the set will be regular plus, in accordance with the tradition of the second summer open and normal collegiate side events. We are planning to have 2/3 of tossup answer lines be plausible regular difficulty answer lines- not counting bell-curve harder stuff as regular difficulty, and noting that the tossups in this set may be clued a bit harder than regular difficulty, given the setting and the expected field. Of the remaining 1/3 of answer lines, at least half will be "regular plus" and not "CO or CO plus" level. Bonuses will have an "easy" and a "hard" part, with the easy part being no harder than a middle part at regular difficulty. The overall goal difficulty-wise is to create a tournament that someone who enjoys playing either literature or history questions at regular difficulty or above can enjoy. Obviously, there will be a few very tough answer lines, but that will not be the norm.
The distribution being used, per packet, is approximately:
10 Literature:
2.5 American
2.5 British
2.5 European
1.25 World
1.25 Other / Any / Grab Bag / Trash / More of the Above
10 History:
2.25 American
4.25 European
2.25 World
1.25 Other / Any / Grab Bag / Trash / More of the Above
Basically, this resembles the ACF distribution except that there's a bit more allowance for mixed and hybrid questions. There are also reasonable subdistribution requirements; for example, the American literature questions won't contain zero poetry or drama tossups. A final note is that the trash in this tournament will be connected to literature or history, and will be on at least somewhat culturally relevant topics.
Last edited by kdroge on Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:54 am, edited 2 times in total.
Kurtis Droge
East Lansing 08, Michigan 12, Louisville 17
East Lansing 08, Michigan 12, Louisville 17
Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
Finally a tournament without all that other crap.
Is this meant to be played with full teams or doubles?
Is this meant to be played with full teams or doubles?
Mike Cheyne
Formerly U of Minnesota
"You killed HSAPQ"--Matt Bollinger
Formerly U of Minnesota
"You killed HSAPQ"--Matt Bollinger
Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
My idea was to play this as doubles or triples, but it might depend on how fields develop and what the staffing / rooming situation is at various sites. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to having this be played as quads if that's what people prefer.
Kurtis Droge
East Lansing 08, Michigan 12, Louisville 17
East Lansing 08, Michigan 12, Louisville 17
Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
What is the pricing for this tournament?
Mike Cheyne
Formerly U of Minnesota
"You killed HSAPQ"--Matt Bollinger
Formerly U of Minnesota
"You killed HSAPQ"--Matt Bollinger
Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
I was thinking $10 per player would be appropriate (rather than do some amount per team since the format is still a bit uncertain at this point).
Kurtis Droge
East Lansing 08, Michigan 12, Louisville 17
East Lansing 08, Michigan 12, Louisville 17
Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
As of this morning, the set has officially been completed.
I have emailed zips of the set to Columbia, VCU, and Mizzou, and I will have the packets for the Michigan site. Can someone from the California mirror please either post your email here or shoot me an email at [email protected] so I can send you the set as well? If I've forgotten anyone that is wanting to hold a mirror this weekend, let me know that also.
I have emailed zips of the set to Columbia, VCU, and Mizzou, and I will have the packets for the Michigan site. Can someone from the California mirror please either post your email here or shoot me an email at [email protected] so I can send you the set as well? If I've forgotten anyone that is wanting to hold a mirror this weekend, let me know that also.
Kurtis Droge
East Lansing 08, Michigan 12, Louisville 17
East Lansing 08, Michigan 12, Louisville 17
Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
A few notes after the first sites of this set have been played:
-A good address to send a check to for paying me if you hosted a mirror is 1982 Winchester Drive, East Lansing, MI, 48823
-Hopefully, stats from the main site will be up later this week
-I'm about to request a private discussion forum for the set; there are still mirrors in Canada, online, and possible somewhere in California yet to be played
-A good address to send a check to for paying me if you hosted a mirror is 1982 Winchester Drive, East Lansing, MI, 48823
-Hopefully, stats from the main site will be up later this week
-I'm about to request a private discussion forum for the set; there are still mirrors in Canada, online, and possible somewhere in California yet to be played
Kurtis Droge
East Lansing 08, Michigan 12, Louisville 17
East Lansing 08, Michigan 12, Louisville 17
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Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
Do you have scoresheets/stats for the Michigan site?
This was a lot of fun, by the way - I think the 2 part related bonuses were executed pretty well and it made the event fit into a weekend of side-events much better.
This was a lot of fun, by the way - I think the 2 part related bonuses were executed pretty well and it made the event fit into a weekend of side-events much better.
Dylan Minarik
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Northwestern '17
Belvidere North High School '13
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JRPG Champion, BACK TO BACK Robot Slayer
Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
It would be nice to see stats for this event.
Andrew Hart
Minnesota alum
Minnesota alum
Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
My team won--that's a stat.
Mike Cheyne
Formerly U of Minnesota
"You killed HSAPQ"--Matt Bollinger
Formerly U of Minnesota
"You killed HSAPQ"--Matt Bollinger
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Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but is there any chance these questions will be posted?
William Golden
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Silly answer: If you give me back my legions (sorry I couldn't resist)Quinctilius Varus wrote:Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but is there any chance these questions will be posted?
Serious answer: It's up to Kurtis, but it almost certainly will be at some point. The other writers and I all have copies of the set as well, so if it really lags any of us would probably be happy to send it to you.
Jason Golfinos
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Trinity School '13 (inexplicably in charge, 2011-13)
Princeton '17 (inexplicably in charge, 2015-16)
Cambridge '18
HLS '22
Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
Kurtis, will you ever post stats for this event?theMoMA wrote:It would be nice to see stats for this event.
Andrew Hart
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theMoMA wrote:Kurtis, will you ever post stats for this event?theMoMA wrote:It would be nice to see stats for this event.
I believe 1/3 or so of the stat sheets from this event are missing, so if he does put out stats, they won't be complete.
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Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
Hey Kurtis, could you do me, Sid, and Morgan a favor and not post stats for this event? Thanks.
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Re: Listory: Summer Side Event
Any chance this set will be posted? Sorry to post way after it the set was played.
John Stathis
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