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Postseason Polls

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:18 pm
by Cheynem
These will be coming soon for team and players. There are a few other tournaments to go through (which I doubt will affect the top of your ballots too much, but might have some insight), so expect them around mid-May.

Re: Postseason Polls

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:36 pm
by naan/steak-holding toll
Are people interested in having a post-season roundtable discussion of some sort beforehand? Doesn't have to be about rankings alone - can also be about what the year was like in general, what people thought of the sets/schedule, etc.

Re: Postseason Polls

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:52 pm
by Gen. Winfield Scott Hancock
Periplus of the Erythraean Sea wrote:Are people interested in having a post-season roundtable discussion of some sort beforehand? Doesn't have to be about rankings alone - can also be about what the year was like in general, what people thought of the sets/schedule, etc.
I'd be interested in this.

Re: Postseason Polls

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:04 pm
by gyre and gimble
I was thinking it would be nice to expand the individual player poll a bit to recognize achievements that are somewhat external to the "who is objectively better than who" analysis. Some examples of this kind of thing would be Writer of the Year, Editor of the Year, Most Improved Player of the Year, Comeback Player of the Year, maybe some kind of Best Moment of Sportsmanship thing, etc.

Maybe it doesn't have to be a full poll. I just figured it would be nice to acknowledge the great things people are doing in quizbowl, both for themselves and for the community.

Re: Postseason Polls

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:39 pm
by theMoMA
I wonder if this is the year to expand the player poll to 35 or 40. As I suggested before, people could still submit ballots of 25 (or maybe 30), but the cutoff for honorable mention would simply be moved down. I also think Stephen's ideas are cool, but they could take a bit of time to administer.

Re: Postseason Polls

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:44 pm
by naan/steak-holding toll
I think people could submit a ranking of three candidates for each of the categories Stephen suggested, which would make it a bit easier (3 points for first, 2 for second, 1 for third). It'd basically be a mini-poll, and since only one person "wins" then only having three people is fair.

Re: Postseason Polls

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:45 pm
by Cheynem
I wonder if perhaps those are things the Roundtable could hash out. I don't think we need to statistically come up with "winners" for these awards, rather just get people to talk about them and get some recognition. I might include something like "name your Most Improved Player" in the ballot, but I don't want to overburden the ballots per se. If other people want to handle the mini polls, go ahead.

Re: Postseason Polls

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:27 am
by Ike
gyre and gimble wrote:I was thinking it would be nice to expand the individual player poll a bit to recognize achievements that are somewhat external to the "who is objectively better than who" analysis. Some examples of this kind of thing would be Writer of the Year, Editor of the Year, Most Improved Player of the Year, Comeback Player of the Year, maybe some kind of Best Moment of Sportsmanship thing, etc.

Maybe it doesn't have to be a full poll. I just figured it would be nice to acknowledge the great things people are doing in quizbowl, both for themselves and for the community.
I really support this. Even if we don't have a full-blown poll, it would be nice to just have a few people talk about these things on a roundtable or whatever so that there is some recognition.

Re: Postseason Polls

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:55 pm
by naan/steak-holding toll
Should we plan for a roundtable sometime next week, then? I'm free pretty much any day but Wednesday or Friday.

Re: Postseason Polls

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:11 pm
by gyre and gimble
Ike wrote:
gyre and gimble wrote:I was thinking it would be nice to expand the individual player poll a bit to recognize achievements that are somewhat external to the "who is objectively better than who" analysis. Some examples of this kind of thing would be Writer of the Year, Editor of the Year, Most Improved Player of the Year, Comeback Player of the Year, maybe some kind of Best Moment of Sportsmanship thing, etc.

Maybe it doesn't have to be a full poll. I just figured it would be nice to acknowledge the great things people are doing in quizbowl, both for themselves and for the community.
I really support this. Even if we don't have a full-blown poll, it would be nice to just have a few people talk about these things on a roundtable or whatever so that there is some recognition.
This might be a stupid question, but will the roundtable discussion be preserved somewhere accessible? The reason I suggested integrating this into the poll is so that whatever discussion results would be preserved, and whatever conclusions are arrived upon would be remembered.

Re: Postseason Polls

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:29 pm
by naan/steak-holding toll
gyre and gimble wrote:
Ike wrote:
gyre and gimble wrote:I was thinking it would be nice to expand the individual player poll a bit to recognize achievements that are somewhat external to the "who is objectively better than who" analysis. Some examples of this kind of thing would be Writer of the Year, Editor of the Year, Most Improved Player of the Year, Comeback Player of the Year, maybe some kind of Best Moment of Sportsmanship thing, etc.

Maybe it doesn't have to be a full poll. I just figured it would be nice to acknowledge the great things people are doing in quizbowl, both for themselves and for the community.
I really support this. Even if we don't have a full-blown poll, it would be nice to just have a few people talk about these things on a roundtable or whatever so that there is some recognition.
This might be a stupid question, but will the roundtable discussion be preserved somewhere accessible? The reason I suggested integrating this into the poll is so that whatever discussion results would be preserved, and whatever conclusions are arrived upon would be remembered.
Somebody can take a log of it - I believe this has been done in the past.