AVOGADRO'S NUMBER
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This is at ICT? I'd love to play! Please note that I suck more now, but don't neg any less, so look out for that.
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We will probably have 1+ teams from WUSTL at this.
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Charbroil wrote:We will probably have 1+ teams from WUSTL at this.
We aren't going to add any more teams at this point, but you guys are free to join up with other teams. Let me know how many people you actually have so I can see if we should make 4 player teams. (Or we can change the schedule, if someone has a good suggestion about how to do that within the constraints of 4 editors and 5 submitted packets).
Sorry for changing the numbers up-- I didn't really expect a lot of interest in this.
Brian McPeak
University of Maryland
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Brian, are you aiming to run this Saturday evening after ICT finishes?
Richard
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That's currently the plan.armitage wrote:Brian, are you aiming to run this Saturday evening after ICT finishes?
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I definitely want to play this! Please add me to the free agent list as well.
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14 teams, 2 groups of 7... then a number of crossovers depending on packets. I think this is how the 2014 ICT science side event was done.Brian McPeak wrote:(Or we can change the schedule, if someone has a good suggestion about how to do that within the constraints of 4 editors and 5 submitted packets).
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Best idea I can come up with for more teams with still 9 packets would be a 14-team tournament: 2x7 prelims, and then two-round brackets (A1-B2, A2-B1, 1st & 3rd games; A3-B4, A4-B3, 5th & 7th games; A5-B6, A6-B5, 9th & 11th games; A7-B7). This gets everyone 7 or 8 games. Yes, it's a single-elim playoff, but trying to work an advantage final system in a side event with 9 rounds seems like a less good format.Brian McPeak wrote:Charbroil wrote:We will probably have 1+ teams from WUSTL at this.
We aren't going to add any more teams at this point, but you guys are free to join up with other teams. Let me know how many people you actually have so I can see if we should make 4 player teams. (Or we can change the schedule, if someone has a good suggestion about how to do that within the constraints of 4 editors and 5 submitted packets).
Sorry for changing the numbers up-- I didn't really expect a lot of interest in this.
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Rob has joined us, just FYI
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i thought brian was in charge of stopping superteamsMewto55555 wrote:We've been joined by the legendary Chris Ray.
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I don't see a superteam here.Black Miao wrote:i thought brian was in charge of stopping superteamsMewto55555 wrote:We've been joined by the legendary Chris Ray.
Brian this is getting ridiculous, I hope you charge an exorbitant fee for assholes who are trying to freeload off of your tournament by signing up the last minute and not writing a packet. I'm probably going to post about this later, but everything about this model -- not really your tournament in specific, just packet submissions side tournaments like this -- is just terrible. This tournament probably couldn't happen without writers, and I think it would be just nice to punish everyone by forcing them to write things / pay you a fee.
Ike
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Well, I'm pretty sure we are paying a fee as it costs money to play the tournament. I don't get the dogmatic stance here--Brian's a big boy, if he didn't want people playing without writing a packet, he would have made that a requirement. I'm obviously open to teams who didn't write packets paying a little more ($10 per person?). I certainly wasn't trying to freeload of of Brian's hard work, and it's really up to him to decide who plays his set and for how much.
EDIT: I am playing with Ashvin and Victor (and am co-writing a packet too).
EDIT: I am playing with Ashvin and Victor (and am co-writing a packet too).
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As long as you allow science-less riffraff for competition and keep out the people who actually know science, it's fine by me! Makes it easier to claim the science throne.Ike wrote:Brian this is getting ridiculous, I hope you charge an exorbitant fee forassholescannon fodder who are trying to freeload off of your tournament...
Seriously though, as Mike said, it's Brian's thing, not yours. He can do whatever he wants with it. And as Eric said, people should just be responsible about their writing priorities.
Full disclosure. I'm not going to stop at 12, I'm just going to write as many as I have time for, since I think Brian's going to have his hands full in the final week of editing. If this event turns out to be largely lulzy, then, whatever, big deal. I'm expecting a super submission-driven set anyway. I'm just hoping that at least half of the teams stuck toCheynem wrote:EDIT: I am playing with Ashvin and Victor (and am co-writing a half-packet too).
I didn't write lulzy questions for this, so you can enjoy my packet (perhaps not so much for Ike, since I stuck to my biochemistry side of the science distribution).Brian McPeak wrote:The average difficulty should be a little lower than nationals but this is a side event-- a few CO/CO+ things are probably okay if they're really cool and you can't write on that any other way but balance them out with more good questions with easy answers.
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Seth Ebner and I are available as free agents for this.
Charles Hang
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What's the per-20 distribution of each packet, i.e. for which categories will there be fewer questions than in the submission distro?
Austin Brownlow
Louisville '14, Stanford '16
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Let's use all 24 every round!Galadedrid Damodred wrote:What's the per-20 distribution of each packet, i.e. for which categories will there be fewer questions than in the submission distro?
Akhil Garg
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Lisgar '13
VCU '16
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18 tossups on earth science without repeats seems... improbable.not quite wrote:Let's use all 24 every round!Galadedrid Damodred wrote:What's the per-20 distribution of each packet, i.e. for which categories will there be fewer questions than in the submission distro?
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We will be playing all 24 of each packet.Galadedrid Damodred wrote:What's the per-20 distribution of each packet, i.e. for which categories will there be fewer questions than in the submission distro?
Brian McPeak
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I count more than 18 named time divisions on the Geologic time scale Wikipedia page. Seriously though, there are plenty of topics, especially if people get creative with their answer lines. So many subfields to cover too: Mineralogy, Petrology, Glaciology, Oceanography, Meteorology, Vulcanology, Geology... Just a couple from each of those and you can pretty easily not repeat clues or answerlines.Victor Prieto wrote:18 tossups on earth science without repeats seems... improbable.not quite wrote:Let's use all 24 every round!Galadedrid Damodred wrote:What's the per-20 distribution of each packet, i.e. for which categories will there be fewer questions than in the submission distro?
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Okay, I stand corrected.Eared Pitta wrote:I count more than 18 named time divisions on the Geologic time scale Wikipedia page. Seriously though, there are plenty of topics, especially if people get creative with their answer lines. So many subfields to cover too: Mineralogy, Petrology, Glaciology, Oceanography, Meteorology, Vulcanology, Geology... Just a couple from each of those and you can pretty easily not repeat clues or answerlines.Victor Prieto wrote:18 tossups on earth science without repeats seems... improbable.not quite wrote:Let's use all 24 every round!Galadedrid Damodred wrote:What's the per-20 distribution of each packet, i.e. for which categories will there be fewer questions than in the submission distro?
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Further, VCU Open 2015 had 6/6 Earth Science with no repeats, just split among the fields of "geology / geophysics", "atmospheric", "ocean / coastal", "environmental", and "any". You could probably write 10+ non-repeating tossups just in "geology / geophysics". :)
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Does this tournament need staff?
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Right now I have 2 Michigan rooms so and 1 Maryland room, so if two more people could let us use their room that would be great. For readers we have Will N, Jacob R, and me, so we need two more of those. If you're willing to read, scorekeep, or let us use your room, post here or tell me tomorrow.
We're going to start tomorrow right after the tournament. I guess there's some award ceremony so as soon as that's over we'll meet in the lobby, I'll tell you your schedule and I'll assign remaining free agents to teams, and then we'll go.
We're going to start tomorrow right after the tournament. I guess there's some award ceremony so as soon as that's over we'll meet in the lobby, I'll tell you your schedule and I'll assign remaining free agents to teams, and then we'll go.
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I'm willing to staff this in some capacity.
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Mukherjee et al. beat everyone to win this tournament. We'll post the stats tomorrow and I'll set up a private discussion forum because there will be a UK and potentially an online mirror.
Maryland has someone's buzzers. Track down Ophir or me if it's yours.
Maryland has someone's buzzers. Track down Ophir or me if it's yours.
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I left my individual trophy in one game room. If someone finds it, please let me know.
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Assuming someone hasn't contacted you yet, you left it in Michigan's room.
Mike Cheyne
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There's a private discussion forum which you can request to join.
Brian McPeak
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This was a lot of fun. Substantive commentary to come in the discussion forum once I look at the set. Many thanks to the editors for putting this together.
Austin Brownlow
Louisville '14, Stanford '16
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