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ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:49 am
by gyre and gimble
Harvard will be hosting ACF Fall for New England and the Northeast this year, on November 3rd. To register for the tournament, email Tournament Director Graham Moyer at [email protected] AND ALSO fill out this form. Make sure to include how many buzzers and staffers you can bring.

This is a packet-submission event, so please check with the guidelines posted here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13156 to see what is required of your team in terms of question writing. If you do need to write a packet (someone on your team's played a collegiate tournament prior to September 1, 2011, regardless of whether he/she is in high school or college) you should be aware of the upcoming deadlines, discounts, and penalties:

October 7, 2012: No penalty (-$25 for teams not required to submit packets)
October 14, 2012: +$25
October 21, 2012: +$50
After Oct. 21, 2012: The editors may grant one or more 24-hour extensions at an additional penalty of $10 per day.

We'll have more information regarding location and time as the tournament approaches.

Here is our site's fee schedule:

Fees:

$120 base fee per team
-$5 buzzer discount (per buzzer set)
-$10 staffer discount
-$10 per 200 miles traveled, one-way
-$25 if this is your team's first ACF tournament
-$100 if your team is new to quizbowl (this includes the new-to-ACF discount)

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:59 pm
by Chimango Caracara
Dartmouth should have three teams. We'll update you as the date approaches.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:51 pm
by nimit
RPI wil have at least one team, and one buzzer system. We'll update you closer to the date whether we'll have a second team.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:42 pm
by grapesmoker
Could you guys post a field update please?

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:23 pm
by TheKingInYellow
FIELD as of 10/13

Teams: 27

2 Columbia
1 Hanover High School
1 UConn
4 Dartmouth
2 RPI
3 Yale
2 Amherst
2 Cornell
1 Brown
1 Wellesley
3 MIT
1 Harvard
1 "Not Hunter"
1 Kellenberg
1 Middlebury
1 Princeton

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:03 am
by delber6
Middlebury is interested in attending, assuming we can work out transportation. When will a start time be announced?

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:44 pm
by gyre and gimble
We'll try to start by 9:30.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:47 pm
by TheKingInYellow
Hey, so we're changing our discount policy to be in line with ACF's official standards. That means -$10 for a moderator and -$10/200 miles, rather than -5$/100 miles.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:46 am
by delber6
We would be able to register as an Undergrad and Division II as long as all of our players are either in their first two years of college or their first two years of quizbowl, right?

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:41 am
by Susan
delber6 wrote:We would be able to register as an Undergrad and Division II as long as all of our players are either in their first two years of college or their first two years of quizbowl, right?
Yes. In case anyone's curious about the general case, to be an undergrad team, all of your players must have graduated from HS no earlier than the 2008-2009 academic year. and/or must not have played any collegiate academic tournaments before September 2009. Also, if you've been awarded a BA or equivalent degree during the 2011-2012 academic year or earlier, you cannot play as an undergrad. To qualify as a Division II team, all players must have graduated from HS no earlier than the 2010-2011 academic year and/or must not have played any collegiate academic tournaments before September 2011, AND they must never have played at ACF Nationals.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:10 pm
by ryanrosenberg
Susan wrote:
delber6 wrote:We would be able to register as an Undergrad and Division II as long as all of our players are either in their first two years of college or their first two years of quizbowl, right?
Yes. In case anyone's curious about the general case, to be an undergrad team, all of your players must have graduated from HS no earlier than the 2008-2009 academic year. and must not have played any collegiate academic tournaments before September 2009. Also, if you've been awarded a BA or equivalent degree during the 2011-2012 academic year or earlier, you cannot play as an undergrad. To qualify as a Division II team, all players must have graduated from HS no earlier than the 2010-2011 academic year and must not have played any collegiate academic tournaments before September 2011, AND they must never have played at ACF Nationals.
This seems to be saying two different things. What about the case of someone who played a college tournament while in high school (before September 2011) but is in their first two years of college? The affirmative answer to David's question, as well as the eligibility rules for ACF Nationals last year, would seem to indicate that they would be eligible for Division II, but "all players must have graduated from HS no earlier than the 2010-2011 academic year and must not have played any collegiate academic tournaments before September 2011" would rule any team containing that player ineligible.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:05 pm
by Susan
Sorry for rendering that extremely confusing by leaving out key "and/or"s. I've edited my message above--is this clearer now?

(The answer to David's question remains "yes".)

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:39 pm
by warpoet
NYU will likely be sending 1-2 teams and 1 buzzer system (plus maybe even a moderator)- actual registration and more specific information should come before next week...

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:46 pm
by t-bar
MIT will have at least two teams. We will have definite information for both you and the central registration system by the end of this week.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:44 pm
by delber6
Thank you for your help. I will try to have our plans finalized as soon as possible.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:44 pm
by grapesmoker
delber6 wrote:Thank you for your help. I will try to have our plans finalized as soon as possible.
Please don't forget to register!

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:09 pm
by Adventure Temple Trail
Yale has just registered three teams in both ways. We also plan to bring two buzzers and one staffer.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:09 pm
by Lightly Seared on the Reality Grill
Stony Brook is now moving into "interested" territory.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:27 am
by Susan
Susan wrote:
delber6 wrote:We would be able to register as an Undergrad and Division II as long as all of our players are either in their first two years of college or their first two years of quizbowl, right?
Yes. In case anyone's curious about the general case, to be an undergrad team, all of your players must have graduated from HS no earlier than the 2008-2009 academic year. and/or must not have played any collegiate academic tournaments before September 2009. Also, if you've been awarded a BA or equivalent degree during the 2011-2012 academic year or earlier, you cannot play as an undergrad. To qualify as a Division II team, all players must have graduated from HS no earlier than the 2010-2011 academic year and/or must not have played any collegiate academic tournaments before September 2011, AND they must never have played at ACF Nationals.
Please note that ACF has just updated their definitions of Undergrad and Division II. At ACF Fall and Regionals, any player who meets ACF's definition of “Undergraduate” and has never played ACF Nationals will be considered Division II-eligible.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:02 am
by SunWukong
I've tried twice to send an E-mail to the E-mail address specified in the first post, but have twice received an error message. The message I attempted to send is the following:
Brown will be sending one team to the Harvard Mirror of ACF Fall. We have just submitted our packet and will be registering with ACF shortly (once I figure out where I want the invoice sent). We will have neither staffers nor buzzers, but are eligible for undergrad/DII titles.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:13 pm
by nimit
I've tried twice to send an E-mail to the E-mail address specified in the first post, but have twice received an error message.
Daniel, remove the NOSPAM from the address. I think that was done to dissuade bots from posting to the address.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:57 am
by delber6
I have filled out the form and emailed Graham in order to register Middlebury. We will be bringing one team and no buzzer system or staffer. Is there some way that our registration can be confirmed before I send the check?

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:42 pm
by nimit
RPI will have 2 teams. We just confirmation of our B team. I've filled in the registration form.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:38 pm
by TheKingInYellow
We're going to cap the field at 28 (30 if we're really lucky/people bring more staffers) so there are only 2 slots left!

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:16 pm
by delber6
What about Middlebury?

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:53 pm
by BroNi
You have Kellenberg listed in your field twice. We are bringing only 1 team.

edit: gooder English!

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:34 pm
by grapesmoker
SunWukong wrote:I've tried twice to send an E-mail to the E-mail address specified in the first post, but have twice received an error message. The message I attempted to send is the following:
Brown will be sending one team to the Harvard Mirror of ACF Fall. We have just submitted our packet and will be registering with ACF shortly (once I figure out where I want the invoice sent). We will have neither staffers nor buzzers, but are eligible for undergrad/DII titles.
I'm still waiting for that registration.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:01 pm
by SunWukong
I E-mailed Guy a week ago, asking about the procedure for paying for things, where I should have the physical invoice sent, etc. but he hasn't gotten back to me and hasn't been in practice all week. Sorry about the delay in registration (I've just requested it sent my mailbox and will track down people who know these things to get it sorted).

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:54 pm
by delber6
When will information about times/location become available?

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:57 pm
by TheKingInYellow
The tournament will begin at 9 in Sever Hall. All teams should arrive BEFORE 8:45. Also schedules might be in flux--NYU had to drop out b/c of the hurricane and it's possible other New York teams will face the same problems, so please be very punctual so we can figure out the exact schedule we'll be using as soon as possible

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:31 pm
by dolphin
NYU had to drop out b/c of the hurricane and it's possible other New York teams will face the same problems
Megabus is running, so Columbia's two teams will be there.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:56 am
by Excelsior (smack)
Eleventh-hour travel shenanigans are most likely going to require Yale to drop to two teams, as I have already informed Graham by email.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:02 am
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
woo go husam

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:41 pm
by gyre and gimble
Columbia B went undefeated and probably won all of the titles. Stats will be up soon.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:12 pm
by Adventure Temple Trail
Now that HFT is written and hosted (with its stats up) and it's been a full week, will we see full stats from this event?

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:53 pm
by gyre and gimble
Yeah, sorry we got caught up with HFT. We'll work on getting the stats up now. Prelim stats are already up, by the way, and everything should have been up the day of the tournament but SQBS crashed in the middle of the playoffs, then a staffer left so our statsperson had to read...and then a week went by.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:17 am
by Adventure Temple Trail
Two weeks; now that HFT has been over for a while and Game weekend is over, it'd be nice to see how my teams did at this event. Though I may just be looking and not finding the full results.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:46 pm
by gyre and gimble
Sorry, we got these done on Monday but I guess they were never uploaded. Our statsperson is doing that right now so they'll be up in a few minutes.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:15 pm
by sjmorrison
Prelims and combined stats are up and can be found on the tournament page here.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:42 pm
by The Bold Ideas of Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
gyre and gimble wrote:Columbia B went undefeated and probably won all of the titles. Stats will be up soon.
sjmorrison wrote:Prelims and combined stats are up and can be found on the tournament page here.
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Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:00 pm
by Kouign Amann
Yeah, those stats are neither correct nor complete. Unless some unannounced score-keeping mistake has since been uncovered, we won that game against Hunter. The "final" against Brown is missing entirely.

Re: ACF Fall Northeast @ Harvard (11/03/12)

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:19 pm
by mtimmons
Rounds 11 and 12 are missing. A couple of those games appear to be in round 0 and bizarrely MIT A's round 11 game against Teen Titans is listed as a round 6 game.