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Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:05 pm
by reindeer
If we need to reschedule, how would February 13 or 20 work for teams? How late would you need to be notified in the event that we do need to postpone?

Update: We're now leaning toward 2/20 if we need to change. We should come to a final decision by Wednesday or Thursday morning at the latest.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:09 pm
by rchschem
Raleigh Charter would not be able to reschedule in any event. We're slammed through March with other tournaments. Granted, we're probably the extreme exception given our travel distance and arrangements, but we'll make our decision Friday (since it wouldn't do us much good to be up there in the hotel and find out Saturday morning the show's off). So don't make your decision based on our situation.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:10 pm
by Frater Taciturnus
Given the difficulties William and Mary have had with their attempts at a tournament on 2/13 that does not sound like the best idea.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:07 pm
by Down and out in Quintana Roo
reindeer wrote:If we need to reschedule, how would February 13 or 20 work for teams? How late would you need to be notified in the event that we do need to postpone?

Update: We're now leaning toward 2/20 if we need to change. We should come to a final decision by Wednesday or Thursday morning at the latest.
We can't come on Feb 20th. Our NAQT state championship is that day... :sad:

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:15 pm
by Nine-Tenths Ideas
It appears that the best solution here is simply to hope the snow will be manageable.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:28 pm
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Magically whenever a team cancels a tournament more than 24 hours in advance due to snow, it seems like the day of the tournament roads are clear and everything could have run normally if it weren't canceled. I would strongly suggest waiting to make a decision, and going ahead with the tournament in all but the extreme circumstances.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:38 pm
by Down and out in Quintana Roo
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Snow is certainly coming, it's just a matter of how much. A lot of Maryland/Virginia teams should have no problem coming, but it's going to be tough for us, as i said, having to rely on a lot of two-lane roads in Delaware and the Eastern Shore of Maryland before the Bay Bridge.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:43 pm
by rchschem
Curse you, Wintry Mix!

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:51 pm
by Self-incompatibility in plants
Dr. Isaac Yankem, DDS wrote:
Snow is certainly coming, it's just a matter of how much. A lot of Maryland/Virginia teams should have no problem coming, but it's going to be tough for us, as i said, having to rely on a lot of two-lane roads in Delaware and the Eastern Shore of Maryland before the Bay Bridge.
Having talked to my parents, Caesar Rodney has a few more options.

1) We could borrow one of my families SUVs for Mr. C to drive, which is much better suited for the snow than his little car, which should make our trip drastically easier, and more appealing to his fiancée. This option is my preference.

2) If Mr. C won't be able to drive because of the snow, even with an SUV at hand, then my dad has volunteered to drive us to TJ this Saturday for the tournament. If avoidable I would prefer not to go with this option, but if we need to go with it to ensure that we get to this tournament then we won't hesitate to do so.

Both options are assuming that the rest of the team is still allowed to go, of course. Either way though, it seems likely that Caesar Rodney will be able to make this tournament at the current date, snow or not.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:03 pm
by Down and out in Quintana Roo
We could always take Route 1 north to I-95, then south through Baltimore and to DC. That adds anywhere from 30-60 minutes to our drive, but it's feasible.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:07 pm
by at your pleasure
At this point, the tournament calendar is almost full and may not accommodate a reschedule. Let's plow through(no pun intended) and hope we don't get socked.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:04 pm
by jbarnes112358
There is a chance that our principal will not let us attend in case of significant snow. We may not even know if we can come until early Saturday morning. I strongly suggest you develop several alternative bracketing schemes in case this weather becomes an issue.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:44 pm
by Rufous-capped Thornbill
Plow forward, O Pioneers of the Mind.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:56 pm
by at your pleasure
Inkana7 wrote:Plow forward, O Pioneers of the Mind.
What are you doing poking among the meats in the refrigerator?

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:45 pm
by at your pleasure
Also, Alex Leuta and Phillip would like to play in the video game tournament. Possibly someone else I'm forgetting as well.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:22 pm
by reindeer
It looks like at this point the best thing to do is avoid postponing the tournament unless Fairfax County cancels activities for 1/30. If they do, it'll be announced at http://www.fcps.edu/news/emerg.htm, but this may not happen until the morning.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:25 pm
by Nine-Tenths Ideas
What time are we checking in, etc?

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:40 pm
by reindeer
Registration will start at 8 and we'd like to begin around 9. There will be a complimentary donut breakfast in the morning.

If we don't lose too many teams to snow, we'll run round robins in four brackets of as close to 6 teams as possible in the morning. After lunch the top 12 teams will be divided into two even 6-team brackets and play another round robin, followed by a cross-bracket game. Depending on how many other teams there are, we'll either have two 6-team round robins or two 4-team double round robins in the afternoon.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:15 am
by rchschem
Raleigh Charter will have to withdraw. The weather is too threatening.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:50 am
by Down and out in Quintana Roo
We're going to try to make it, using a parent's SUV in case the snow is worse by the time we come back. It looks like it'll be fine in the morning though, but the afternoon may bring accumulation.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:24 pm
by reindeer
With New Kent and Raleigh Charter dropping, we're down to 21 teams--is there any news from Maggie Walker on how likely it is you can come?

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:33 pm
by jbarnes112358
reindeer wrote:With New Kent and Raleigh Charter dropping, we're down to 21 teams--is there any news from Maggie Walker on how likely it is you can come?
Olivia, I was just told by our principal that we would not be allowed to travel tomorrow, so regrettably we will need to cancel. Hopefully our cancellation will not cause you any major difficulties as 18 is still a good number to work with. Hopefully you will have no further cancellations, as the storm is not predicted to be as significant in your area. Good luck.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:07 pm
by reindeer
jbarnes112358 wrote:Olivia, I was just told by our principal that we would not be allowed to travel tomorrow, so regrettably we will need to cancel. Hopefully our cancellation will not cause you any major difficulties as 18 is still a good number to work with. Hopefully you will have no further cancellations, as the storm is not predicted to be as significant in your area. Good luck.
All right. Thanks for letting me know.

With 18 teams, we'll have round robins in 3 brackets of 6 in the morning, then rebracketing into the top, middle, and bottom six teams after lunch. The TIDUS side event during lunch is also still on.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:42 am
by Kouign Amann
reindeer wrote:The TIDUS side event during lunch is also still on.
I assume this will cost like five bucks or something?

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:30 am
by t-bar
Prof.Whoopie wrote:
reindeer wrote:The TIDUS side event during lunch is also still on.
I assume this will cost like five bucks or something?
This will, in fact, cost exactly five bucks. If the late announcement of this fact incapacitates anyone from playing that's my bad.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:02 am
by reindeer
Stats link. Hopefully it'll stop snowing soon.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:15 am
by t-bar
NAREN is canceled due to weather. Teams are being sent home midway through round 2.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:23 am
by reindeer
We are going to reopen registration and reschedule for 2/20. If you came to NAREN and would like to come back, your spot will be held. If you can't come, you will be refunded. Please email us at [email protected] at your earliest convenience in either case.

If you did not register for NAREN but would like to come on 2/20, you can either email us or register on the site. Registration should be back open soon.

Thanks to everyone who came; sorry about this.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:29 am
by wexs883198215
So this got canceled after 1.5 rounds. The questions were pretty good so far. The bonuses were of good difficulty, but a few rather transparent questions came up.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:48 pm
by Angry Babies in Love
I liked the set so far, but unfortunately I won't be able to play on it (Curse you, Mac McGarry!). 2 hour round trip to beat GDS C and play half a game against a house team is not how envisioned this going down. But oh well. Good luck on the 20th. I think we're going to send a team to this but I'm not sure ATM.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:33 pm
by Unicolored Jay
t-bar wrote:NAREN is canceled due to weather. Teams are being sent home midway through round 2.
That's an interesting way to end a tournament... :shock:

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:36 pm
by Whiter Hydra
Bird Sonata wrote:
t-bar wrote:NAREN is canceled due to weather. Teams are being sent home midway through round 2.
That's an interesting way to end a tournament... :shock:
Fairfax County Public Schools cancelled all activities at around 10 AM, I presume, so that meant that everyone had to leave.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:59 pm
by Nine-Tenths Ideas
From what I could tell, the set was pretty good so far. Supposedly, though, we're not allowed to come back on the 20th, something I hope to get resolved before then. I'm pretty unhappy right now.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:27 pm
by Self-incompatibility in plants
rmgeokid wrote:I liked the set so far, but unfortunately I won't be able to play on it (Curse you, Mac McGarry!). 2 hour round trip to beat GDS C and play half a game against a house team is not how envisioned this going down. But oh well. Good luck on the 20th. I think we're going to send a team to this but I'm not sure ATM.
A 5 1/2 hour round trip to play one match and get our butts kicked by St. Anselm's is much worse, trust me. Oh well though. This entire situation is just really unfortunate. Good luck on the 20th! Again, we sadly won't be able to make it on the rescheduled date since that's the date of out NAQT State Championship. Also, yea, the questions that we saw were pretty good.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:51 pm
by wexs883198215
Aldo Montoya wrote:From what I could tell, the set was pretty good so far. Supposedly, though, we're not allowed to come back on the 20th, something I hope to get resolved before then. I'm pretty unhappy right now.
Wait what? Why? I want our rematch!

And we got screwed out of being the Andrew Hart Champion by the snow, so I think we got it worse than any other team :lol:

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:35 pm
by reindeer
Given that our mirror has been rescheduled for 3/27, what would teams think of our postponing this until March as well? 3/13 is Ben Cooper, but would March 20 work better than February?
Aldo Montoya wrote:Supposedly, though, we're not allowed to come back on the 20th, something I hope to get resolved before then. I'm pretty unhappy right now.
I'll see if the person you talked to can be convinced otherwise. We'd definitely like you to come.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:40 pm
by Nine-Tenths Ideas
March might be better for us, if only slightly, because maybe an extra, better player or two could come.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:47 pm
by Self-incompatibility in plants
March 20th is the Blue Hen tournament at UD, so we couldn't make it that date either. Would doing it on the same say as the mirror on March 27th work?

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:53 pm
by reindeer
Self-incompatibility in plants wrote:Would doing it on the same say as the mirror on March 27th work?
Yes, probably. We can't say anything definite until we're back in school, but right now it seems like we're looking at late March.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:53 pm
by The King's Flight to the Scots
Self-incompatibility in plants wrote:March 20th is the Blue Hen tournament at UD, so we couldn't make it that date either. Would doing it on the same say as the mirror on March 27th work?
According to the date claim topic, UVA is planning to host the VA State Championship that day, which TJ will likely be attending.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:00 pm
by Self-incompatibility in plants
Journey to the Planets wrote:
Self-incompatibility in plants wrote:March 20th is the Blue Hen tournament at UD, so we couldn't make it that date either. Would doing it on the same say as the mirror on March 27th work?
According to the date claim topic, UVA is planning to host the VA State Championship that day, which TJ will likely be attending.
Gah! What about early April? Two later dates are claimed in April (April 17th is the CR Rider Bowl, and the 24th is the Prison Bowl mirror at VCU), but early April seems open from what I recall.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:05 pm
by wexs883198215
3/27 is the beginning of Spring Break for teams in Montgomery County, so I don't think that'd be good for Maryland teams either.

EDIT: Since we're tossing out non-quizbowl conflicts like It's Academic, I'm just going to say that WJ can't do anything on 2/27 (Science Olympiad) and 3/20 (Science Fair)

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:48 am
by Down and out in Quintana Roo
Whatever date you reschedule it for is going to make some teams unhappy. Just do the best you can and accommodate as many teams as possible. We'll come if we can.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:07 pm
by paulsausville
Self-incompatibility in plants wrote:
Journey to the Planets wrote:
Self-incompatibility in plants wrote:March 20th is the Blue Hen tournament at UD, so we couldn't make it that date either. Would doing it on the same say as the mirror on March 27th work?
According to the date claim topic, UVA is planning to host the VA State Championship that day, which TJ will likely be attending.
Gah! What about early April? Two later dates are claimed in April (April 17th is the CR Rider Bowl, and the 24th is the Prison Bowl mirror at VCU), but early April seems open from what I recall.

I'd propose April 3rd... if anything in early april.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:09 pm
by wexs883198215
That's during spring break too...

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:18 pm
by Nine-Tenths Ideas
February 20th may be the best option. I know that some teams won't be able to make it, but it looks like this one has the highest concentration of available teams.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:21 pm
by Down and out in Quintana Roo
Aldo Montoya wrote:February 20th may be the best option. I know that some teams won't be able to make it, but it looks like this one has the highest concentration of available teams.
Even though it's a date we can't attend, it's the one that makes the most sense, yes.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:26 pm
by at your pleasure
I will make sure Whitman sends two teams to this date.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:27 pm
by sir negsalot
Why not Feb 13th? It's a little bit short notice, but there are no other events close to DC that day. The William and Mary one is probably too far for most of the field. The same goes for Feb 27th.

Re: NAREN at TJ (1/30/10)

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:54 pm
by Whiter Hydra
sir negsalot wrote:Why not Feb 13th? It's a little bit short notice, but there are no other events close to DC that day. The William and Mary one is probably too far for most of the field. The same goes for Feb 27th.
In addition, several VHSL Regionals take place that day.