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Go to the home page to submit tournaments or results, or to view them. You are encouraged to submit older stuff from this year for the sake of completeness.

For North Carolina people:

I will save you all the effort of going through the painful task of inputting all of your tournaments. Please double check me to make sure I'm doing this correctly!

Patrick King

Is there any way to alter the qualifying field so that "none" is an option? Some tournaments don't qualify for anything else, and so I am using "state tournament" as the default, even though it isn't a good description.

Patrick King

Similarly, some tournaments qualify for multiple championships (i.e., the BATT had both PACE and NAQT qualifications). Maybe checkboxes would work best for that field.

We'll work on that. For now just take your pick of PACE, ASCN, or NAC since they all have some sort of wild-card qualification, meaning that technically all tournaments qualify for them. I think NAQT may have wild cards as well, I forget.

I think for region there should be subheadings for Northeast, Southeast, Mid-Atlantic, etc.

I considered that, but the existence of the thread "What are the Regional Dividing Lines?" convinced me that there is no agreement as to what constitutes a region. It doesn't take that long to search a few states.

'None' has been added as a qualifying option, as has 'NSC & HSNCT'.

I received an Internal Server Error when attempting to submit my tournament so I could post the results.

It's fixed. Try it again now.

So it is. Thanks. For everything.

How long does it take for the "tournament ID" for login purposes to come out?

Patrick King

pakman044 wrote:How long does it take for the "tournament ID" for login purposes to come out?

Patrick King

It should be emailed to you once the tournament is approved. This will depend on my access to the site; I will try to keep up whenever I am at home or on campus, but during classes, work, sleeping, et cetera it may be a few hours. At the most, turnaround will be 24 hours.

Once everything is working I will see about getting other people able to approve tournaments, in order to get more coverage.

I just found a serious glitch in the code. Please if you are reading this, don't submit a tournament until I post here again saying it's good to do so.

If you already have, don't worry. It won't be lost, it's just that i don't want any new tournaments gunking up the database while I test the code.

OK. It's fixed now.

I dont think i ever got an email about a tournament ID for any of the ones i submitted. I'd like to post results to all of them.

Are you absolutely sure? It seems to work for everyone else. If you really haven't (and you might have not, I was making changes to the programs about the time you submitted yours, it might have fallen thorught the cracks) tell me and I'll email you personally the requisite data.

Ditto here, Noah. I submitted the Bobcat Bowl, but never received a reply. I submitted it before you made your changed in the code, though, so maybe it was due to that.

Also, would it be possible to sort the tournaments by date? Or better yet, do a sort based upon a user-defined criterion?

They are sorted by date, when you search them by any criterion. User-defiend criterion create security issues.

I'll email you your stuff. The bug I fixed prevented the auto-emailer form working, now I see more clearly what happened.

You can now submit results for tournaments with teams tied for places.

I've now adjusted the result search scripts so it'll pull up similar team names and not be so anal about exactness (eg. it'll pull up Maggie Walker HS, Maggie Walker A, and Maggie Walker even if you just search for Maggie Walker)

Two suggestions:

1) I think tournaments should be sorted by date, not by month, as it is now. It's strange to see a tournament being held in 2004 come before a tournament already held in 2003.

2) Perhaps the "results" link should not be put up until there are actually results. This would make it easier to differentiate between upcoming events and past events.

is there a way you could include a field for a link to full stats on the team's homepage?

Leo: the tournaments are now sorted as you requested.

mps4a_mps4a: you can now enter HTML in the comments field, so that way you can include a link to the stats.

Examples for the HTML-illiterate:
Copy the following code exactly into the comments field, replacing the italics with your relevant information

To include a link to a webpage:
<a href=URL of webpage here>link title</a>

To include a link to an email address:
<a href=mailto:email address here>name of person whose email it is</a>

A huge thanks to Noah for all his work in setting up the tournament calendar as well as for listening to our complaints and suggestions and acting on them. It's great having it all together rather than having to sift through all the messages.

I've noticed that some people are not submitting tournament results because the forms don't support multiple divisions or classes of play.

To TDs: How big of a problem has this been for you regarding this site?

To players: How badly do you want to see results broken down this way?

If there is enough support for this, I'll change the scripts so that multiple divisions per tournament will be supported.

And don't worry Weiner, I won't charge you extra :)

solonqb wrote:I've noticed that some people are not submitting tournament results because the forms don't support multiple divisions or classes of play.

To TDs: How big of a problem has this been for you regarding this site?

To players: How badly do you want to see results broken down this way?

If there is enough support for this, I'll change the scripts so that multiple divisions per tournament will be supported.

And don't worry Weiner, I won't charge you extra :)

I know its a big deal for me when I submitted VHSL state results. As you noticed I put in three different tournaments. But I'd rather have put in three divisions of 1 tournament.

Unless there is a nearly unanimous outcry in the other direction I'd support entering different divisions as different tournaments, since the fields are entirely separate.

Now that i've probably antagonized half the board with all the posts urging people to submit their tournaments, let me justify myself.

I just got a little piqued by seeing tournaments posted here and discussed without TDs also putting them and their results in the database, something that was meant to make the process easier by providing a searchable index of tourneys and results. I also got sick and tired of entering other people's results a month after their tournament had passed.

Commence the stone-throwing.

If some of you happen to receive automated emails giving you information that your tournament has been accepted, and you didn't submit one, rest assured that the system is not out of whack. I submitted them for you since apparently nothing for that tournnament has been submitted yet, and I have designated you as contact beacuse I assumed you were the person on this board most affiliated with that tournament. If you take serious exception to this policy, just email me and I'll take the necessary action.

Noah, I understand your zeal for your new tournament database, and I do agree that it's a pretty good idea. But, your posting in every single tournament thread so that they will post the tournament and results into the database--at least in my opinion (which means little to most people here apparently)--is getting a little bit irritating. It's not the end of the world if something doesnt get posted. Most of us are doing our best to post tournaments and results--I know I've done something like 5 of them myself. Just bear with us Noah, we're trying.

MCDoug wrote:Noah, I understand your zeal for your new tournament database, and I do agree that it's a pretty good idea. But, your posting in every single tournament thread so that they will post the tournament and results into the database--at least in my opinion (which means little to most people here apparently)--is getting a little bit irritating. It's not the end of the world if something doesnt get posted. Most of us are doing our best to post tournaments and results--I know I've done something like 5 of them myself. Just bear with us Noah, we're trying.

Wow, you're really doing well with that "don't post to start drama about the board" thing.

But, your posting in every single tournament thread so that they will post the tournament and results into the database--at least in my opinion (which means little to most people here apparently)--is getting a little bit irritating. It's not the end of the world if something doesnt get posted.

You have to be pretty irritable to be irritated by something like this. I understand you don't like seeing 10 threads in regular season tournaments being posted in in a few minutes, but solon is doing us all a favor by being a bit anal retentive about this.

Doug, I see what you mean, and in future I'll refrain from flooding the board with such posts. But I don't think these people are even aware of it. I'm just trying to inform them.

Wildcat wrote:

But, your posting in every single tournament thread so that they will post the tournament and results into the database--at least in my opinion (which means little to most people here apparently)--is getting a little bit irritating. It's not the end of the world if something doesnt get posted.

You have to be pretty irritable to be irritated by something like this. I understand you don't like seeing 10 threads in regular season tournaments being posted in in a few minutes, but solon is doing us all a favor by being a bit anal retentive about this.

I rather agree with this post. This board and this site are doing high school quizbowl a great favour by serving as an institutional memory.

Matt, Noah, would it be possible to start having this site record the results of collegiate tournaments?

I spoke to Matt about that when I began this, and he said he didn't want to step on Michael Falk's toes.

http://www.e-falk.com/qb/ does that already.

my original message has been deleted and moved to AHAN where it belongs.

If you post 2 tournaments, it appears that if they have the exact same name, the results from the first tournament is that of the second (e.g., Right Triangle Open in 2003 and the soon to come Right Triangle Open in 2004).

Patrick King

I'll address that issue shortly. For now, don't give tournaments the same name (ie, add the year or a number for the same tournament in different years)

I would like to submit the results for the Maryland Classic, but I forgot the tournament id and password. I cannot remember receiving an id or password. How do I submit results sans the proper entry info?

Just give me your email address, I'll email the user id/password to you.

Thanks Noah. I just submitted the Maryland Classic.

One very small concern I have is, when I was entering the quarterfinalists, all 5T, the team I entered in the 5th place spot is listed in the eighth row and 8th place spot is listed in the fifth row, same for "6th" and "7th." It is not that important, just wanted to bring it to your attention.

Dan Greenstein wrote:Thanks Noah. I just submitted the Maryland Classic.

One very small concern I have is, when I was entering the quarterfinalists, all 5T, the team I entered in the 5th place spot is listed in the eighth row and 8th place spot is listed in the fifth row, same for "6th" and "7th." It is not that important, just wanted to bring it to your attention.

It lists them all as 5 under the "place" column.

Weiner's right. In any case, the records are internally sorted by place before listing them, which takes precedence over anything else.

I just resolved the results issue for tournaments with the same name. However, try to give tournaments that recur from year to year unique names or identifiers, such as ordinal numbers or years.