2008 Panasonic Academic Challenge: Illinois wins!

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2008 Panasonic Academic Challenge: Illinois wins!

Post by hardeecoach » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:14 pm

No Virginia. No Missouri. Any prognostication?
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Post by BuzzerZen » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:35 pm

A buzzer game vaguely resembling quiz bowl will be played. The team with the best math player will win, unless another team is better at the crucial coloring portion of the distribution.
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Post by Matt Weiner » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:36 pm

Dorman will be approximately one hundred times better at quizbowl than any other team present, but will not win since quizbowl will not occur.
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Post by First Chairman » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:38 pm

Dave Bykowski, Eric Bell, Eric Huff, and Julie Gittings stomp on the rest of the competition in the exhibition coaches game.
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Post by Matt Weiner » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:39 pm

Oh, is State College going too?

Make that TWO teams who are very good at quizbowl and will lose to someone who can do math quickly.
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Post by Kechara » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:41 pm

ILoveReeses wrote:Dave Bykowski, Eric Bell, Eric Huff, and Julie Gittings stomp on the rest of the competition in the exhibition coaches game.
And Byko will spend the next year gloating around me and the cats
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Post by hardeecoach » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:06 pm

Interesting that you think math makes the difference. This same format is used for our state championship, and I have seen Suwannee win several championships without EVER answering a math question. :roll: Hardee has won four times and I can asssure you we are not a math team.
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Post by AndyShootsAndyScores » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:44 pm

hardeecoach wrote:Interesting that you think math makes the difference. This same format is used for our state championship, and I have seen Suwannee win several championships without EVER answering a math question. :roll: Hardee has won four times and I can asssure you we are not a math team.
Panasonic is a very math heavy format. Period.
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Post by ieppler » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:46 pm

Who is on Team DC? I honestly have no idea.
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Post by wowitsquinthaha » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:53 pm

Hopper wrote:Who is on Team DC? I honestly have no idea.
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Post by JackGlerum » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:59 pm

I have my money on my home state. Go Team Illinois.

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Post by hardeecoach » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:37 pm

Somebody described the Illinois team as "an absolutely vicious team" in a previous post. And I think they meant that as the ultimate quizbowl compliment.

The number of questions in the PAC format are supposed to be balanced. The problem is that so many science questions are so "math-y", It seems heavily weighted toward math.
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Post by wowitsquinthaha » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:00 pm

I understand completely
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Post by Byko » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:38 am

Okay folks, here's the actual distribution (all numbers are out of 65 questions):

Math: 12
Science: 12
Social Studies: 12
English: 12
Multi-Subject: 4
Music: 3
Art: 3
Humanities: 3
Foreign Language: 3
Technology: 1

Except for the Multi-Subject and Technology, which are only in the 15-point round, everything else is balanced across the 3 rounds of the game. As for the worksheets, well, they're a little of everything.
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Post by Matt Weiner » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:28 pm

I've noticed that there's generally an inverse relationship between whether a tournament thinks "social studies" is a quizbowl category and how good the tournament is.
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Post by Mechanical Beasts » Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:53 pm

Matt Weiner wrote:I've noticed that there's generally an inverse relationship between whether a tournament thinks "social studies" is a quizbowl category and how good the tournament is.
I nominate "Humanities" as the least specific category.
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Post by cdcarter » Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:16 pm

everyday847 wrote:
Matt Weiner wrote:I've noticed that there's generally an inverse relationship between whether a tournament thinks "social studies" is a quizbowl category and how good the tournament is.
I nominate "Humanities" as the least specific category.
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everyday847 wrote:
Matt Weiner wrote:I've noticed that there's generally an inverse relationship between whether a tournament thinks "social studies" is a quizbowl category and how good the tournament is.
I nominate "Humanities" as the least specific category.
Considering Art, Music, Language, Foreign Language, and Social Studies (which, I assume, includes History), I'm wondering why that category can't just be renamed RMP and Literature, assuming that their English doesn't include Literature.
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AndyShootsAndyScores wrote:
everyday847 wrote:
Matt Weiner wrote:I've noticed that there's generally an inverse relationship between whether a tournament thinks "social studies" is a quizbowl category and how good the tournament is.
I nominate "Humanities" as the least specific category.
Considering Art, Music, Language, Foreign Language, and Social Studies (which, I assume, includes History), I'm wondering why that category can't just be renamed RMP and Literature, assuming that their English doesn't include Literature.
Because English probably isn't 6 spelling and 6 grammar, so it has to include some literature--and how much RMP do you think there really is?

Anyone who's played the format know?
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Post by BobGHHS » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:21 pm

Practice games were fun since teams were mixed up, and my team featuring Dave Bykowski, Eric Huff, and the coach from team Louisiana whose name slips my mind won the coaches' challenge and were rewarded with ipod player stereos... I had a good time. Now comes sitting through 80 minutes of ugh tomorrow.
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Post by AndyShootsAndyScores » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:40 pm

everyday847 wrote:Because English probably isn't 6 spelling and 6 grammar, so it has to include some literature--and how much RMP do you think there really is?
There's not much left within the scope of Humanities besides RMP that isn't already in another category, save law.
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Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:55 pm

I won a Sony digital recorder at a raffle at this in 2001.

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Post by harpersferry » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:57 pm

I've been told the practice questions are worse than the actual competition. To be honest they sounded like they were from 1979. People in practice rounds buzzed way earlier than is possible. Like after the first part of a two part question and guessing the second part (sometimes successfully).
Probably the worst thing about this tournament: Almost all of their question formats are built to be buzzer beaters. Matching especially. There are some legit people here, but I think some states choose a team based on "Anyone want to go to Disney World?"

One gem (from practice, not competition):

"In this Edward Albee play..."*buzz*
Random kid: "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf"
Panasonic reader : "that's right, amazing" (or something to that effect)
Everyone legit in the room "are you kidding me?"

We'll have to see how tomorrow goes.

Does anyone who's here want to play some normal quizbowl scrimmages? Maybe on the many rounds where we have byes? (though probably most people want to go to disneyworld?) I'm sure there's some packets that nobody here has heard. Just an idea.
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Post by BobGHHS » Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:38 pm

I didn't check when you play, we play at 4, and pictures at 1:40, so we have downtime from like 2-3:45 or so. I will ask them if they are up to it and post if so.
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BobGHHS wrote:Practice games were fun since teams were mixed up, and my team featuring Dave Bykowski, Eric Huff, and the coach from team Louisiana whose name slips my mind won the coaches' challenge and were rewarded with ipod player stereos... I had a good time. Now comes sitting through 80 minutes of ugh tomorrow.
And you thought you wouldn't be of any help--bah! Five questions in, and you're at least partially responsible for our 10 points.

Yeah, that was fun. Matt Knupp's antics were amusing as well.

I'll probably be taking plenty of notes, so maybe I can pass along some semblance of sub-distribution information...sometime later.
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Post by BobGHHS » Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:45 am

We haven't even played a match yet, and we already have a victory. Today, June 8, Dan Humphrey was named Disney World Artist of the Day at the Contemporary Resort. This is not a joke, Joe actually submitted the picture.

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Wow. :lol: The hardest i've laughed at anything on this site. Did he say he was 3 or something?
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Post by BobGHHS » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:07 am

No, Joe submitted it as a joke and put Dan's name on it. We might have Dan go up later and ask if he can have his picture back, just to gauge their reaction when they realize their artist of the day is 17 and headed to Princeton in 3 months.
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ILoveReeses wrote:Dave Bykowski, Eric Bell, Eric Huff, and Julie Gittings stomp on the rest of the competition in the exhibition coaches game.
amazing how they can win when I'm not on their team .... coincidence? I think not!

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Post by BobGHHS » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:17 am

Yeah they didn't win altogether though Huff and Byko were with me, Gittings and Knupp were with Eric. We would've gladly taken you on our team though Tom.
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BobGHHS wrote:No, Joe submitted it as a joke and put Dan's name on it. We might have Dan go up later and ask if he can have his picture back, just to gauge their reaction when they realize their artist of the day is 17 and headed to Princeton in 3 months.
Please post video of this moment when it occurs.

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Last year, we won, and I'm trying to keep an even keel because I don't want to come across as a poor winner who shoves it in people's faces ... and all I got for my efforts were lectures from some of the people in charge to "smile more".

Telling me how to feel and express myself .... not a way to get me to smile.

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Post by BobGHHS » Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:24 pm

So I should apologize to one of the Panasonic judges for some unnamed state's captain moving her stuff off of their lunch table and onto another table for whatever reason. He was given hell for it I promise you.
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Post by ClemsonQB » Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:55 pm

Results from the First Round (or atleast all I know of it):
(1st, 2nd, 3rd)

SC, WY, NM

IL, CA, CO
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And elsewhere I'm told that Maryland put down an ungodly 510...
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quizbowlabc wrote:And elsewhere I'm told that Maryland put down an ungodly 510...
Was there anyone in the room with them when this happened?

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Tegan wrote: Was there anyone in the room with them when this happened?
DC, Indiana and Washington
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Post by ClemsonQB » Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:28 pm

In addition to SC, IL and MD, first round winners include Oklahoma, Kentucky, Pennsylvania and Vermont. I didn't hear anything about the Wisconsin/Ohio/ Montana/Idaho game.
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ROUND 1

Nutcracker 1
District of Columbia 96
Indiana 102
Maryland 510


Fantasia KL

Oklahoma 263
West Virginia 122
Louisiana 164
New Jersey 109

Fantasia MN
Colorado 165
California 173
Illinois 381

Fantasia PQ
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Wyoming 143
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Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:00 pm

13 teams? Wow.
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Tegan wrote: Was there anyone in the room with them when this happened?
DC, Indiana and Washington
Can we confirm that the teams were actually, physically present. That's one major league good ol' fashioned hippie butt whipping!

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ROUND 2

Nutcracker 1
Wisconsin 63
Ohio 289
Montana 209
Idaho 113

Fantasia KL
Guam 114
Kentucky 391
Florida 211
Alabama 137

Fantasia MN
New Hampshire 184
Maine 105
Pennsylvania 256

Fantasia PQ
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Vermont 265
Tennessee 155
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Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:05 pm

Oh, more teams then.
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dude, Guam sucks.
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Well Maine did worse than Guam...
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Caesar Rodney HS wrote:Well Maine did worse than Guam...
That's because Pennsylvania is like the Dorman of Panasonic.
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wowitsquinthaha wrote:dude, Guam sucks.
Since they're the only team Alabama beat, I feel SO proud.
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Tegan wrote:
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Tegan wrote: Was there anyone in the room with them when this happened?
DC, Indiana and Washington
Can we confirm that the teams were actually, physically present. That's one major league good ol' fashioned hippie butt whipping!
Judging by the scores, they were there, but probably buzzed in fewer times than the square root of the number of letters in their state/territory names.

And btw what happened to you and missouri, charlie?

in re guam: how do you not buzz in at all? At least neg some to make it interesting.
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Post by hardeecoach » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:13 pm

Round 3 -- Monday, June 9, 10 am TO 12 pm

Fantasia KL
Wyoming
Idaho
Guam

Fantasia MN
Florida
West Virginia
District of Columbia

Fantasia PQ
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Maine
Iowa

Round 4-- Monday, June 9, 12:30 PM - 230 P.M.

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New Mexico
Wisconsin

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New Jersey

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wowitsquinthaha wrote:
Caesar Rodney HS wrote:Well Maine did worse than Guam...
13+14=27
It certainly is. Can they not add in U.S. territories? How dare you insinuate they have inferior arithmetic skills!
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Re: 2008 Panasonic Academic Challenge updates

Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:14 pm

pasedpawn wrote:And btw what happened to you and missouri, charlie?
I believe Dees previously posted that the Michigan team didn't find the tournament worthwhile.
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