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Hahaha, the three best indiv. ppg in PACE all-time, in the same tournament?! Wow.

Jesus Christ... Charlie is playing out of his mind.
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aestheteboy wrote:...It wouldn't be the first time people get treated unfairly, and it's not the end of the world if the consolation rounds ...
They are consolation rounds. I'm glad an effort is being made, but really--do we need to be splitting hairs for the consolation rounds? I guess "consolation champion" is better than nothing, but really. Just play and have fun.
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That's not really a valid response, though - if there's going to be consolation playoffs, why shouldn't they be done right? There's nothing wrong with pointing out possible issues with the playoff structure, even if it's "just" for the consolation rounds.

This will be my first exposure to Swiss Pairs, and so I am still unclear about the theory behind it to a bit. Still, the two links I provided earlier give more insight into it than I could.
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The championship playoff results will also be reported live at http://www.taftqb.com/t/pacensc08playoffs/.
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Consolation rounds started at around 9:00 am. We are using SQBS4.0 and will be keeping up with team stats there. Individual stats will be kept for Daichi and Dan.
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142 playoff ppg by Chris Ray is the (record) for individual scoring. We do mention the score in the table of records.
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Dallas pulls out 210 in round 9 against Brookwood. That's another to put into the "individual performances in a game" list. On averages after 2 rounds, Simons 170, Dees 165.

So far this is like Dan and Dave for now. In the AHAN section is Fred's comments on the Dorman-MLK playoff game.
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Dorman taking 80% on its bonuses and 82% of all possible steals. Insane.
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There were no upsets in consolation round 8.

Accidentally gave out R10 instead of R9, but since I gave it to everyone, no worries.
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Seed Hi Score Hi Seed Lo Score Lo Turnover?
Walter Johnson 400 Richard Montgomery B 245 No
Detroit Catholic Central 410 James Monroe 150 No
Dorman B 515 Hoggard 185 No
Rockford Auburn 535 Rappahannock County 90 No
State College B 435 Thomas Jefferson C 140 No
Brindlee Mountain A 380 Weddington 150 No
Maggie Walker Governor's School B 370 Robinson 180 No
Carbondale 340 Collegiate 250 No
Stuyvesant 380 Douglas Freeman 190 No
Chattahoochee B 330 Cave Spring 215 No
Wheaton North 385 Parkersburg Catholic 105 No
Brindlee Mountain B 325 Centennial B 50 No
Thomas Jefferson B 365 Northmont 105 No
Raleigh Charter 335 North Allegheny B 135 No
Garfield Heights 275 Brindlee Mountain C 110 No
North Allegheny A 320 Riner Auburn 100 No
Charter B 355 Porter 0 No
Centennial A 1 TW Andrews 0 No

Walter Johnson 440 Chattahoochee B 140 No
Detroit Catholic Central 235 Wheaton North 200 No
Dorman B 420 Brindlee Mountain B 85 No
Rockford Auburn 425 Thomas Jefferson B 75 No
State College B 345 Raleigh Charter 220 No
Brindlee Mountain A 165 Garfield Heights 255 Yes
Maggie Walker Governor's School B 270 North Allegheny A 205 No
Carbondale 235 Charter B 170 No
Stuyvesant 305 Centennial A 140 No
Richard Montgomery B 185 Cave Spring 195 Yes
James Monroe 210 Parkersburg Catholic 150 No
Hoggard 280 Centennial B 90 No
Rappahannock County 220 Northmont 100 No
Thomas Jefferson C 150 North Allegheny B 85 No
Weddington 180 Brindlee Mountain C 100 No
Robinson 150 Riner Auburn 85 No
Collegiate 215 Porter 30 No
Douglas Freeman 1 TW Andrews 0 No

Walter Johnson 645 Garfield Heights 110 No
Detroit Catholic Central 345 State College B 340 No
Dorman B 450 Carbondale 170 No
Rockford Auburn 425 Maggie Walker Governor's School B 245 No
Stuyvesant 260 Chattahoochee B 200 No
Wheaton North 485 Cave Spring 110 No
Brindlee Mountain B 260 James Monroe 145 No
Thomas Jefferson B 295 Hoggard 200 No
Raleigh Charter 335 Rappahannock County 140 No
Brindlee Mountain A 360 Thomas Jefferson C 130 No
North Allegheny A 260 Weddington 175 No
Charter B 255 Robinson 135 No
Centennial A 220 Collegiate 240 Yes
Douglas Freeman 245 Richard Montgomery B 285 Yes
Parkersburg Catholic 190 Riner Auburn 65 No
Centennial B 0 Brindlee Mountain C 155 Yes
Northmont 1 TW Andrews 0 No
North Allegheny B 160 Porter 120 No
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Walter Johnson 645 Garfield Heights 110
WHAT!

Way to represent me boys.
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Semi-finals are Dorman vs. TJ and Charter vs. Walt Whitman.
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Round 11
Walter Johnson 315 Rockford Auburn 280 No
Detroit Catholic Central 365 Stuyvesant 205 No
Dorman B 315 Garfield Heights 200 No
State College B 265 North Allegheny A 200 No
Maggie Walker B 270 Raleigh Charter 210 No
Carbondale 175 Brindlee Mountain A 315 Yes
Wheaton North 230 Collegiate 225 No
Brindlee Mountain B 205 Charter B 130 No
Thomas Jefferson B 210 Richard Montgomery B 165 No
Chattahoochee B 260 Weddington 165 No
Cave Spring 155 Centennial A 265 Yes
James Monroe 295 Robinson 80 No
Hoggard 250 North Allegheny B 90 No
Rappahannock County 235 Parkersburg Catholic 40 No
Thomas Jefferson C 115 Brindlee Mountain C 130 Yes
Northmont 145 Riner Auburn 70 No
Douglas Freeman 220 Porter 70 No
Centennial B 1 TW Andrews 0 No
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leftsaidfred wrote:Semi-finals are Dorman vs. TJ and Charter vs. Walt Whitman.
Whats going on? Any results?

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Walter Johnson 240 Detroit Catholic Central 350 Yes
Dorman B 385 Rockford Auburn 280 No
State College 275 Stuyvesant 210 No
Maggie Walker B 375 Brindlee Mountain B 235 No
Brindlee Mountain A 380 Wheaton North 195 No
Thomas Jefferson B 140 Raleigh Charter 255 Yes
Garfield Heights 230 Centennial A 170 No
Chattahoochee B 265 James Monroe 190 No
Carbondale 280 Hoggard 230 No
North Allegheny A 215 Rappahanock County 105 No
Charter B 140 Richard Montgomery B 180 Yes
Collegiate 210 Northmont 95 No
Brindlee Mountain C ] Weddington 175 No
Robinson 1 Thomas Jefferson C 0 No
Cave Spring 190 Parkersburg Catholic 80 No
Douglas Freeman 200 Centennial B 65 No
North Allegheny B 1 TW Andrews 0 No
Riner Auburn 80 Porter 20 No
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ragnarok2012 wrote:
leftsaidfred wrote:Semi-finals are Dorman vs. TJ and Charter vs. Walt Whitman.
Whats going on? Any results?
Nothing yet. Lunch is right now. Meeting in five minutes. Then games.
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TJ vs. Whitman in the final
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Hopper wrote:TJ vs. Whitman in the final
god, espn live would be greatly appreciated right now.

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ragnarok2012 wrote:
Hopper wrote:TJ vs. Whitman in the final
god, espn live would be greatly appreciated right now.
Live updates are available in the quizbowl IRC channel.
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Hopper wrote:
ragnarok2012 wrote:
Hopper wrote:TJ vs. Whitman in the final
god, espn live would be greatly appreciated right now.
Live updates are available in the quizbowl IRC channel.
TJ up 60 - 0 after second question (Ghana, Indo-European).

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So are the last two rounds just single-elimination semis and finals? Seems a bit unfair for Dorman to be eliminated from title contention for their first loss at the hands of TJ, which has lost twice over the course of the tournament and once in the playoff RR.
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WHitman won.
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against charter, you mean?

anyways
is the final actually a tie?
the website has it at 360 - 360 after 28 toss-ups
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One of the tightest games I have EVER played in my life. Congrats to our good friends from Whitman, who take home a well-deserved championship by winning PACE, and thanks guys for that awesome 360-360 game that kept me dangerously close to dying of ventricular fibrillation :grin: I can't wait until next year's quizbowl season...
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closesesame wrote:One of the tightest games I have EVER played in my life. Congrats to our good friends from Whitman, who take home a well-deserved championship by winning PACE, and thanks guys for that awesome 360-360 game that kept me dangerously close to dying of ventricular fibrillation :grin: I can't wait until next year's quizbowl season...
I am hard pressed to imagine a more felicitous or idoneous way to end my high school quizbowl career. That the victory was so narrow is a worthy testament to a phenomenal TJ team. Phil, Mohit, Keshav, thanks for a great year of competition and some slightly disturbing memories; Naren, you're going to be absolutely terrifying next year.

My only real regret is that we never played Dorman's A team at either national tournament.

We could not have done it without Huizong. Who I think earned both his medals in full.
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CHYEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHITMAN! It was extremely gratifying to see them "kick some ass." TJ played extremely well, and I have to thank them and Whitman for one of the most exciting quizbowl matches I've ever seen.

I think a real quizbowl match between "the metro area" versus "places that suck" would have been pretty interesting. I have to imagine that this year's all-stars were among the best ever, mostly because the abundance of good/excellent one-man teams and the existance of Shantanu seem like fairly new phenomena. Can the PACE people study and see if this would be possible next year?
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Shantanu wrote:I am hard pressed to imagine a more felicitous or idoneous way to end my high school quizbowl career. That the victory was so narrow is a worthy testament to a phenomenal TJ team. Phil, Mohit, Keshav, thanks for a great year of competition and some slightly disturbing memories; Naren, you're going to be absolutely terrifying next year.

My only real regret is that we never played Dorman's A team at either national tournament.

We could not have done it without Huizong. Who I think earned both his medals in full.
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Shantanu wrote:Keshav
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"I think a real quizbowl match between "the metro area" versus "places that suck" would have been pretty interesting."

What in God's name does this phrase mean? Which "metro area" and what places suck?
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jrbarry wrote:"I think a real quizbowl match between "the metro area" versus "places that suck" would have been pretty interesting."

What in God's name does this phrase mean? Which "metro area" and what places suck?
In the all-star game, the teams were between the DC area and everyone else. Noted ROBOT Evan Silberman wrote down our team as "people from places that suck".
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jrbarry wrote:"I think a real quizbowl match between "the metro area" versus "places that suck" would have been pretty interesting."

What in God's name does this phrase mean? Which "metro area" and what places suck?
I agree... that seems in quite poor taste Daichi
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jrbarry wrote:"I think a real quizbowl match between "the metro area" versus "places that suck" would have been pretty interesting."

What in God's name does this phrase mean? Which "metro area" and what places suck?
I believe the DC area was being referred to and the claim was that all other places sucked. I'm inclined to believe this was playful regional pride and no need for alarm. Still, your vigilance is appreciated.
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jrbarry wrote:"I think a real quizbowl match between "the metro area" versus "places that suck" would have been pretty interesting."

What in God's name does this phrase mean? Which "metro area" and what places suck?
Well, those of us who stayed for the all-star game were treated to the "beltway Insiders" versus the visiting "Places that Suck." All was made in good humor, and Daichi was merely referring to that occurrence.
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Wow, that's ridiculously inappropriate (albeit, mildly entertaining).

I would smack my kids for that kinda stuff, however.
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I put a warning. In the heat of a match like that, everyone was on edge and we can't scream in a game room. And, honestly, kids and adults swear a whole lot. Not much you can do to stop it.
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