JV tournament at Maggie Walker: April 26, 2008

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OK. I've finally spoken to Cameron and we're ready to announce this thing (it would be much appreciated if this forum's mod (sabine01, I think?) would change the thread title appropriately. Thanks). Our tournament does still lack a name, though.

This currently unnamed JV event will take place at Maggie Walker GS in Richmond, VA on April 26, 2008. We are allowing all freshmen and sophomores as well as juniors and seniors on teams that have not qualified for any national tournament. If you feel for any reason that your team has a player that should merit an exception, post in this thread or email me at SeaAngel147 at aol dot com, preferably including links to stats. We're willing to work with people, especially if you don't make us hunt down your stats. Middle school players/teams are also welcome.

We are writing enough questions for seven rounds; how many rounds I can guarantee each team depends on our field size. Cameron is much more mathematically inclined than me and he thinks we can get everyone 7 rounds with 16+ teams. So you should register so we can plan.

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$50 base fee per team.
-$5 each additional team.
-$10 for a working buzzer set (please note that this is a change).
-$5 for 100+ miles traveled.
-$5 for registering before April 14.
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Clarification Edit: You do not have to attend purchase questions. If you are interested in buying questions without attending, please email me at the address provided above.

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Directions to our school can be found on our team's website

Registration information will hopefully be posted there as well at some point in the future...

Another edit:
I should have mentioned this earlier (and it was in the previous thread) but the format is 20 pyramidal toss-ups with 30 point bonuses. Basically A-level NAQT without powers. As for difficulty, we are trying to be somewhere in the neighborhood of A-level/VHSL/Battle of the Brains. Some questions may prove to be...learning experiences. Seriously, though, the more difficult questions will be designed to help teams get better at mainstream quizbowl (nothing too out there).
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Field Update:
Bassett High School
Clover Hill High School
Collegiate (2 teams)
Freeman High School
Hanover High School
James Monroe
Meadowbrook High School (2 teams)
St. Christopher's (2 teams)
St. Gertrude
Trinity Episcopal School (2 teams)
Tucker High School (2 teams)

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Georgetown Day School
Hunter
Kellenberg
State College
TJ Sci Tech
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Will this tournament be PACE affiliated?
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Our tournament does still lack a name, though.
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wowitsquinthaha wrote:
Our tournament does still lack a name, though.
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Please disregard Quint.

Anyways, checks for this tournament should be made out to Maggie Walker Governor's School. I hope to talk to Dr. Chuck about PACE affiliation today.
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It's okay as long as "JV" is not restricted just to grades 9-10. My understanding (with Bykowski's) is that if the competitive event is open to teams that have not qualified for nationals yet, we're good with it as a qualifier. (Illinois terminology of "tournabouts" [my spelling]).
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Pin-tailed Manakin wrote:It's okay as long as "JV" is not restricted just to grades 9-10. My understanding (with Bykowski's) is that if the competitive event is open to teams that have not qualified for nationals yet, we're good with it as a qualifier. (Illinois terminology of "tournabouts" [my spelling]).
National qualification is the primary criterion we're using.
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Can we install a poll into this thread to gauge the interest in calling this tournament QCAT I? Also, I believe NuttyHopper is 2 votes.
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wowitsquinthaha wrote:Can we install a poll into this thread to gauge the interest in calling this tournament QCAT I? Also, I believe NuttyHopper is 2 votes.
Nutman does not get 2 votes. And it will not be QCAT. It may, however, be DJCAT because that's at least amusing (Dabney Jefferson Carr Academic Tournament). Unfortunately, Quint, we may demand that you actually do some work on this tournament before you get to name it.
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Yeah, I dunno if its worth it...
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I'll make that 2 votes.
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THE REAL EPPLER CASTS HIS VOTE! I know that some of my other loyal followers will support me.
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3 votes.
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Hate to say I told you so...And Puma you can send Paul Fontelo as JV.
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wowitsquinthaha wrote:Hate to say I told you so...And Puma you can send Paul Fontelo as JV.
Quint, the world does not revolve around you. We'll agree on a name as a team at practice sometime...
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Hey Quint. Stop trashing this thread! You're interfering with Sarah's project here.

Moderator. Is there anyway you can delete all this nonsense on the Quint Carr naming chatter, or at least split it off into a separate junk thread somewhere deep in the bowels of this forum ?

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Any clue as to the question type? I'm from Maryland and if the random string of letters is a clue to question type, I have no clue. Will they be like NAQT style or shorter?
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flylikeaneagle wrote:Any clue as to the question type? I'm from Maryland and if the random string of letters is a clue to question type, I have no clue. Will they be like NAQT style or shorter?
They're house written, 20 Pyramidal tossups with 30 point bonuses. Hopefully they will roughly correspond to regular NAQT A level questions, but there's no computational math.
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wowitsquinthaha wrote:
flylikeaneagle wrote:Any clue as to the question type? I'm from Maryland and if the random string of letters is a clue to question type, I have no clue. Will they be like NAQT style or shorter?
They're house written, 20 Pyramidal tossups with 30 point bonuses. Hopefully they will roughly correspond to regular NAQT A level questions, but there's no computational math.
In this case, please disregard any previous request to disregard Quint. The only addition I would make is that they may be slightly shorter than A level as we're shooting for 4-6 lines, but I'm not sure of NAQT length guidelines. Sorry; I should have mentioned question format above. I'll edit that in now...
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Coming soon: invitation emails. I'm in the process of acquiring our team's mailing list from Anant, but I'm not sure who's on it, so if anyone has the VHSL schools I would very much appreciate that information. The emails will most likely be sent Tuesday/Wednesday.
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The email is sending! (and has been for over an hour; our mailing list is rather massive). Hopefully it will be done soon because it wouldn't let me enter the full mailing list and I've gotten three emails since then that I can't currently answer... So hopefully most teams in the area should receive an invitation email soon, and if it's taking me a while to answer any questions via email, I'm not just ignoring you.

To answer Tucker's coach's question (if she ends up back here before I regain the ability to send email): We do not currently have a field cap and there is definitely space for more teams (especially since we've got two teams registered from one school as I type this).

Edit: Some sort of massive error occurred with that email...hopefully it will successfully sent soon.
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The email has now successfully been sent! About 100 or so bounced, but hopefully everyone on MLWGS's mailing list that is still active received an invitation.
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Is there an official name now?
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Not yet, unfortunately. We haven't been able to iron out exactly how to label it.
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The field update has been updated! We are now at 7 teams, which is one less than we need to make this happen successfully. However, we have no upper limit (although we may make one if it's necessary, but that seems unlikely) so please keep registering (and soon) so we can plan the logistics of this tournament.
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MLWGS-Gir wrote:...hopefully everyone on MLWGS's mailing list that is still active received an invitation.
Received one from Dr. B's e-mail address.
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Howard wrote:
MLWGS-Gir wrote:...hopefully everyone on MLWGS's mailing list that is still active received an invitation.
Received one from Dr. B's e-mail address.
That's how we finally had to send it...mine was not cooperating. We did discover that the addresses were separated by commas not semicolons, though, which I think is what freaked out my AOL. However, whatever the school software is notified Dr. b. of the problem and we fixed...once again I apologize for the delay. Glad you got it, though.
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OK....so we've got two weeks to go and only 7 teams registered...I encourage you to please register soon if you're interested.
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MLWGS-Gir wrote: Some questions may prove to be...learning experiences. Seriously, though, the more difficult questions will be designed to help teams get better at mainstream quizbowl (nothing too out there).
I'm guessing this means learning experiences for the teams attending? So, expect slightly higher than VHSL/NAQT-A difficulty?

What will the playoff format for this tournament be?
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MLWGS-Gir wrote:OK....so we've got two weeks to go and only 7 teams registered...I encourage you to please register soon if you're interested.
We're interested, but I've only got two confirmations. A third is possible over the next couple days. I'll do this trip with three students, but probably won't make a two-hour trip with less than that.
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intothenegs wrote:
MLWGS-Gir wrote: Some questions may prove to be...learning experiences. Seriously, though, the more difficult questions will be designed to help teams get better at mainstream quizbowl (nothing too out there).
I'm guessing this means learning experiences for the teams attending? So, expect slightly higher than VHSL/NAQT-A difficulty?

What will the playoff format for this tournament be?
Some of the questions may be of a slightly higher difficulty due to issues in defining difficulty level. As for play-off format, it will depend on the number of teams we have. Most likely though, it will be single elim beginning after round 5 with a consolation bracket to keep everyone playing as long as possible.
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The field update has been updated (a bit). I know 3-4 schools are currently working on finalizing how many teams they're bringing, so it will hopefully be expanded again shortly. Also, I've added a new category and will edit in the clarification to the first post that you can buy questions for practice purposes without attending, as State College expressed interest in doing for their middle schoolers. We could most likely get you an electronic copy fairly easy or a paper copy if you'll be at VCU's upcoming tournament or if you think you can find us amongst the chaos at NAQT or PACE Nationals.
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Howard wrote:We're interested, but I've only got two confirmations. A third is possible over the next couple days. I'll do this trip with three students, but probably won't make a two-hour trip with less than that.
We seem to be stuck at two with little chance at a third, so plan on us not being there unless I contact you with other information.
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Is there no way a duo could play?
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Deesy Does It wrote:Is there no way a duo could play?
John said he wouldn't be going with a team of two due to the costs of attending, travel time & such.
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Howard wrote:
Howard wrote:We're interested, but I've only got two confirmations. A third is possible over the next couple days. I'll do this trip with three students, but probably won't make a two-hour trip with less than that.
We seem to be stuck at two with little chance at a third, so plan on us not being there unless I contact you with other information.
Thanks for letting me know.
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We might be bringing a team or two down. I'll let you know early next week.
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We have now named this tournament:

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The field update has been updated; most of those who have expressed interest have now registered. We currently have 12-13 teams (pending Meadowbrook B) and are still taking registrations/question orders from non-attending teams.
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Unfortunately, due to travel difficulties, GDS will not be able to send any teams. However, we would like to buy the questions, and we may be able to find a few people if the name is changed to Quint Carr Academic Competition.
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Hopper wrote:Unfortunately, due to travel difficulties, GDS will not be able to send any teams. However, we would like to buy the questions, and we may be able to find a few people if the name is changed to Quint Carr Academic Competition.
TJ also wanted to send teams, but all the sponsors are busy and none of the kids that would be attending have parents who are certified sponsors from FCPS. With that being said, those JV students would like us to purchase questions and run a kind of "mini-tourney" as consolation for them not being able to go.

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GameTheory wrote:
Hopper wrote:Unfortunately, due to travel difficulties, GDS will not be able to send any teams. However, we would like to buy the questions, and we may be able to find a few people if the name is changed to Quint Carr Academic Competition.
TJ also wanted to send teams, but all the sponsors are busy and none of the kids that would be attending have parents who are certified sponsors from FCPS. With that being said, those JV students would like us to purchase questions and run a kind of "mini-tourney" as consolation for them not being able to go.
Sorry you guys can't come; I'll put you both on the "buying questions" list. And no, we're not naming the tournament after Quint (however disappointing that may be to Ian).
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We are also sorry, but Kellenberg will not, after all, be able to make it as well. Getting enough people to go, some scheduling conflicts, and the cost of gasoline (day after Earth Day!), all contributed to this decision. Please put us on the purchase question list.
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BroNi wrote:We are also sorry, but Kellenberg will not, after all, be able to make it as well. Getting enough people to go, some scheduling conflicts, and the cost of gasoline (day after Earth Day!), all contributed to this decision. Please put us on the purchase question list.
Will do. Also, the field update has been updated, and we have now reached 16 teams, meaning the top 4 will qualify for PACE Nationals.
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Re: JV tournament at Maggie Walker: April 26, 2008

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What time will the tournament start and when is registration?
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Re: JV tournament at Maggie Walker: April 26, 2008

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intothenegs wrote:What time will the tournament start and when is registration?
Registration 8-8:45 It should start around 9 or soon thereafter.

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Re: JV tournament at Maggie Walker: April 26, 2008

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MLWGS-Gir wrote: Will do. Also, the field update has been updated, and we have now reached 16 teams, meaning the top 4 will qualify for PACE Nationals.
Correction: I believe we need 20 teams to qualify 4 for PACE. So, we will qualify 2 teams.

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Re: JV tournament at Maggie Walker: April 26, 2008

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jbarnes112358 wrote:
MLWGS-Gir wrote: Will do. Also, the field update has been updated, and we have now reached 16 teams, meaning the top 4 will qualify for PACE Nationals.
Correction: I believe we need 20 teams to qualify 4 for PACE. So, we will qualify 2 teams.
Okay. I must have misunderstood the explanation in the PACE qualifiers thread: " a minimum of 16 teams in the field (top 4 teams get automatic bids)." However, PACE's website does specify that its the top 2 for tournaments with under 20 teams. My bad.
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Re: JV tournament at Maggie Walker: April 26, 2008

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the brackets will be named "Dabney" and "Carr"
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