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RESULTS: 5th Annual Gonzaga Academic Tournament (GAT) 2/9/08

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:56 am
by Gonzagapuma1
You are invited to Gonzaga College High School in Washington, DC's 5th Annual Gonzaga Academic Tournament.
The Cost will be:
$60 for first team(this is higher than the flier we passed out at Princeton, sorry)
-$5 for each additional team
-$5 for a buzzer that works
-$5 if PAYMENT is sent before Feb. 1st
$15 for questions
Please make all checks payable to Gonzaga Academic Team.
Format:
We will follow the format used by PACE for its National Tournament-contact us if you have any questions about that.
Location:
Scenic 19 Eye Street between H and K Streets on North Capitol Street. It's about 2 blocks away from Union Station and is right by the Capitol and many museums if you want to go sight-seeing.
Food:
Breakfast will be legit.
Registration:
To register send an e-mail to our Coach Father Kenneth Meehan at [email protected] with your school name, how many teams you're bringing, and how many buzzer systems you're bringing, as well as as an emergency contact number in case you're late and we need to call you. Please send all checks (if you're registering early) to Gonzaga Academic Team/ Gonzaga High School/ 19 Eye Street, NW/ Washington, DC 20001.
Field:
We expect a very competitive field and we're capping the field at 42 teams right now so please register soon.
Moderators:
We had some moderating issues at our last tournament and we're hoping to fix those by capping the field at 42 but if you are in the DC area on the 9th and like a free lunch we would GREATLY appreciate any help.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:58 am
by gonzagaeagleahy
By legit, Dan means amazing. Best breakfast offered by any academic tournament. Ever.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:02 am
by ieppler
Seconded.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:54 pm
by Djibouti
Depending on class requirements at the time, I may be interested in moderating since I'm only a few minutes away. And I'll get Perry Hall to come along.

If possible, I would like to see Perry Hall play, so could I perhaps follow Perry Hall for the day as long as you feel it does not present a competitive advantage (perhaps I could rotate reading with someone - I read at Maryland for Perry Hall and it worked all right, though I understand the argument of "getting used to my reading style" throughout the day)?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:04 pm
by Djibouti
Oh, and the breakfast is pretty legit. So is the tournament... kinda.

Actually, great tournament for anyone who likes any of the following: really pyramidal questions, challenging questions, good questions. My only knock last year was that many of the sports questions were Redskins questions (which I despised), though otherwise the tournament was REALLY REALLY good - a great tournament for anyone considering nationals, or, you know, not considering nationals - either way.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:32 pm
by DumbJaques
This tournament is being written by different people, and in a different format, than the tournament last year. Unless I'm mistaken, more specifically it's being written by Dave Bykowski's Academic Initiative team. In any case, the questions are sure to meet the "good" and "pyramidal" categories, but if you were put off at all by some more esoteric answer selection last year, don't let that influence your decision for this year's tournament as this tournament is quite unlikely to feature 8-line tossups on Henri Bergson.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:28 am
by Magister Ludi
Just for clarification. I wrote last year's tournament (except for the science) and I will be writing a large portion of this tournament with Dave Bykowski for Academic Initiative. If you liked last year's questions please come back and expect more of the same. As the set will be used in many places across the country expect the tournament to be on the whole a little easier (but I stand by Bergson as valid answer selection in the semi-finals featuring teams such as Maggie Walker, TJ, Dorman, and RM). BTW, I will be back in DC to moderate for this.

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:20 pm
by Byko
DumbJaques wrote:This tournament is being written by different people, and in a different format, than the tournament last year. Unless I'm mistaken, more specifically it's being written by Dave Bykowski's Academic Initiative team. In any case, the questions are sure to meet the "good" and "pyramidal" categories, but if you were put off at all by some more esoteric answer selection last year, don't let that influence your decision for this year's tournament as this tournament is quite unlikely to feature 8-line tossups on Henri Bergson.
It will not feature 8-line tossups on anything or anybody.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:05 pm
by Gonzagapuma1
Bump. and Field Update. YAY
Baltimore Poly(1)
Banneker(3)
Bishop Ireton(1)
Centennial(3)
Eleanor Roosevelt(1-2)
Georgetown Day(2)
Howard(1)
Maggie Walker(1)
Marshall(1-2)
Mount Vernon(1)
Perry Hall(2)
Poolesville(3)
Quince Orchard(1)
Richard Montgomery(2)
Robinson(1)
St. Anselm's(2)
Seton Hall(2)
South Lakes(1)
State College(2)
Thomas Jefferson(6)
Walter Johnson(1)
Wilson(1)
Whitman(2)

So this list means we have 40 teams confirmed which means we still have room for 2 teams. I know a bunch of teams have expressed interest so sign up already.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:15 pm
by segregold
The 'Em is coming with at least two teams. I already emailed your coach.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:35 pm
by wowitsquinthaha
yo, you know we be up in dis hizzle. btw, im gonna gat you

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:48 pm
by Gonzagapuma1
segregold wrote:The 'Em is coming with at least two teams. I already emailed your coach.
Father never told me about that, but whatever you guys are now signed up.
wowitsquinthaha wrote:yo, you know we be up in dis hizzle. btw, im gonna gat you
I understood that.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:32 pm
by ieppler
segregold wrote:The 'Em

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:51 pm
by First Chairman
The Em... is that what they call Magruder nowadays? :lol:

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:56 pm
by wowitsquinthaha
i know you did, dan.

I expect paul fontelo to read for me every round

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:05 pm
by The Infanta
Unfortunately, Kellenberg will not be attending (darn you, Science Olympiad!).

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:10 pm
by SHP Pirate
Seton Hall Prep will be coming. We will be bringing two teams. I will e-mail details tomorrow.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:41 pm
by Gonzagapuma1
SHP Pirate wrote:Seton Hall Prep will be coming. We will be bringing two teams. I will e-mail details tomorrow.
Ok. Sounds good.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:30 am
by Diet Chuck
Bump TJ up to six teams. Although you might want to put an asterisk by that because we are prone to last-second dropouts.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:58 am
by Gonzagapuma1
Diet Chuck wrote:Bump TJ up to six teams. Although you might want to put an asterisk by that because we are prone to last-second dropouts.
ok

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:01 am
by Nine-Tenths Ideas
I'm pretty sure Blake's coming, but I'll give you a confirmation shortly.

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:55 pm
by Blackboard Monitor Vimes
Gov's attendance is now contingent on us finding an acceptable person to transport a team, as Dr. B. is supervising admissions tests that day. We have two options but are stuck awaiting the approval of our director (principal-type guy).

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:32 pm
by Nine-Tenths Ideas
Blake is indeed coming. I'm going to assume and hope Mr. Caulfield has contacted you.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:35 pm
by gonzagaeagleahy
NeverHitTina wrote:Blake is indeed coming. I'm going to assume and hope Mr. Caulfield has contacted you.
Actually, he hasn't, so I'd just remind him to do it as soon as possible cuz we expect the limit to be reached possibly by the end of this next wk.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:34 pm
by Blackboard Monitor Vimes
Gov's chaperone has been approved, pending some forms. Dr. B. should be registering us soon.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:36 pm
by wowitsquinthaha
MLWGS-Gir wrote:Gov's chaperone has been approved, pending some forms. Dr. B. should be registering us soon.
woo camerons mom

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:56 pm
by jbarnes112358
MLWGS-Gir wrote:Gov's chaperone has been approved, pending some forms. Dr. B. should be registering us soon.
Tentatively approved. But yeah please hold open a spot for one team. It will not be our regular A team, more like our B+ team, but they're a spunky lot.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:38 pm
by Howard
Please put Howard in for a team and a buzzer. I meant to e-mail this to Father Meehan last night, and I cannot access my e-mail right now.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:53 pm
by Gonzagapuma1
Howard wrote:Please put Howard in for a team and a buzzer. I meant to e-mail this to Father Meehan last night, and I cannot access my e-mail right now.
Ok I will, but could you please e-mail father meehan as soon as you can?

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:50 pm
by Blackboard Monitor Vimes
jbarnes112358 wrote:
MLWGS-Gir wrote:Gov's chaperone has been approved, pending some forms. Dr. B. should be registering us soon.
Tentatively approved. But yeah please hold open a spot for one team. It will not be our regular A team, more like our B+ team, but they're a spunky lot.
I said "pending forms."

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:39 pm
by Howard
Gonzagapuma1 wrote:
Howard wrote:Please put Howard in for a team and a buzzer. I meant to e-mail this to Father Meehan last night, and I cannot access my e-mail right now.
Ok I will, but could you please e-mail father meehan as soon as you can?
Sure will. Thanks. Much.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:52 pm
by Gonzagapuma1
I just wanted to let everyone know that there are only 6 spots left so if you are planning on coming let us know as soon as possible. Also, could someone from Howard and someone from Seton Hall please e-mail Father Meehan because he has not gotten e-mails from either team.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:54 pm
by aestheteboy
This was a good tournament. It was certainly run more smoothly than last year, although I think it would have been better with less down time. We were done with 2 play off rounds around 4:45 (I think). I'm not sure if that's good or bad considering we had 5 rounds of prelims and the 28 question PACE style.

I'm going to assume I can't talk about specifics yet: The questions seemed really easy in the first few rounds (in one game, we powered 9/10), but I guess I'm biased because I had been playing ACF fall and regionals online. Overall, I liked the questions, except for some really bad ones which just seemed out of place in an otherwise very good set. I was sad about the lack of philosophy questions and the abundance of element questions (which I really really hate, although I can't really come up with a good arguement against it).

There was a protest over the pronunciation of a certain location. (The best example I can come up with is saying Hokkadio for Hokkaido). I was OK with the ultimate outcome since I was unsure at the moment (although having checked it now, I'm 95% sure I should have won the protest) but I wasn't happy with the logic that was used to resolve it. They said that they weren't sure because "Hokkadio" gave few hundred hits on google. Therefore, they said it was up to "reader discretion" . . . oh well.

It was a tiring but definitely fun tournament.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:41 pm
by segregold
Good tournament. Questions were on the whole very well written: gg, Dave Bykowski. Still went slower than I like to see in a tournament, but there wasn't any of the 8:00 P.M. type debacle that went on last year. The only complaint I have is that one of the readers my team had was inexcusably slow- it took us over an hour to finish a 28 tossup round. We were able to switch him for Dr. Chuck in the next round and everything else was fine.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:09 pm
by jbarnes112358
Final Results? Who won?

All I know is that Walt Whitman was playing State College in the finals. with RM A and Maggie Walker as semifinalists.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:18 pm
by Angry Babies in Love
RM A wasn't in the semis. it was Whitman, State College, Gov, and TJ.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:19 pm
by Blackboard Monitor Vimes
Really? Somebody told us it was RM... Good to know.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:21 pm
by aestheteboy
Whitman A beat SC A. Gov A and TJ A were the semifinalists.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:20 am
by First Chairman

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:57 pm
by Blackboard Monitor Vimes
aestheteboy wrote:
There was a protest over the pronunciation of a certain location. (The best example I can come up with is saying Hokkadio for Hokkaido). I was OK with the ultimate outcome since I was unsure at the moment (although having checked it now, I'm 95% sure I should have won the protest) but I wasn't happy with the logic that was used to resolve it. They said that they weren't sure because "Hokkadio" gave few hundred hits on google. Therefore, they said it was up to "reader discretion" . . . oh well.

It was a tiring but definitely fun tournament.
Sorry the game had to end that way, Daichi. It was one of our closest all day.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:42 pm
by aestheteboy
MLWGS-Gir wrote:
aestheteboy wrote:
There was a protest over the pronunciation of a certain location. (The best example I can come up with is saying Hokkadio for Hokkaido). I was OK with the ultimate outcome since I was unsure at the moment (although having checked it now, I'm 95% sure I should have won the protest) but I wasn't happy with the logic that was used to resolve it. They said that they weren't sure because "Hokkadio" gave few hundred hits on google. Therefore, they said it was up to "reader discretion" . . . oh well.

It was a tiring but definitely fun tournament.
Sorry the game had to end that way, Daichi. It was one of our closest all day.
Yeah, protests are never fun. But I'm glad you guys won because you guys clearly played better than us, and I was feeling bad for being a hardass throughout the game. I have to say I was underestimating Gov B+.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:22 pm
by AKKOLADE
How many teams were here?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:48 pm
by Gonzagapuma1
My bad I never posted full results. and to fred- 42
First Round of Playoffs(im doing this from memory so please correct me if im wrong):
1)Whitman defeat 16) TJ C
2) State College A defeats 15) Centennial A
3) Walter Johnson defeats 14) St. Anselm's
4) TJ A defeats 13) RM B
5) RM A defeats 12) Robinson
6) Maggie Walker defeats 11) TJ B
10) State College B defeats 7) Seton Hall A
8) GDS A defeats 9) Whitman B
Quarters:
1) Whitman defeats 8) GDS A
2) SC A defeats 10) SC B
6) Maggie Walker defeats 3) Walter Johnson
4) TJ A defeats 5) RM A
Semis:
1) Whitman defeats 4) TJ A
2) SC A defeats MW
Finals:
Whitman defeats State College

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:10 pm
by aestheteboy
Are you posting the prelim stats?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:53 pm
by Gonzagapuma1
aestheteboy wrote:Are you posting the prelim stats?
Yea whatever "stats"(not my idea) we did will be posted next week cause Gonzaga has a 4-day weekend.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:06 pm
by AKKOLADE
Gonzagapuma1 wrote:My bad I never posted full results. and to fred- 42
First Round of Playoffs(im doing this from memory so please correct me if im wrong):
1)Whitman defeat 16) TJ C
2) State College A defeats 15) Centennial A
3) Walter Johnson defeats 14) St. Anselm's
4) TJ A defeats 13) RM B
5) RM A defeats 12) Robinson
6) Maggie Walker defeats 11) TJ B
10) State College B defeats 7) Seton Hall A
8) GDS A defeats 9) Whitman B
Quarters:
1) Whitman defeats 8) GDS A
2) SC A defeats 10) SC B
6) Maggie Walker defeats 3) Walter Johnson
4) TJ A defeats 5) RM A
Semis:
1) Whitman defeats 4) TJ A
2) SC A defeats MW
Finals:
Whitman defeats State College
Thanks!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:27 pm
by Blackboard Monitor Vimes
Our program is seriously lacking in PACE format practice sets; is it still possible to purchase these?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:30 pm
by Gonzagapuma1
MLWGS-Gir wrote:Our program is seriously lacking in PACE format practice sets; is it still possible to purchase these?
Yea, I probably should have mentioned this but they're $20 if you want us to mail the set to you and $15 if you want us to give you them at the next tournament we both go to.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:20 pm
by Blackboard Monitor Vimes
Gonzagapuma1 wrote:
MLWGS-Gir wrote:Our program is seriously lacking in PACE format practice sets; is it still possible to purchase these?
Yea, I probably should have mentioned this but they're $20 if you want us to mail the set to you and $15 if you want us to give you them at the next tournament we both go to.
Thanks. I'll tell Dr. B.

Re: 5th Annual Gonzaga Academic Tournament(GAT) on 2/9/08

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:24 pm
by Mooman
when (or if) are the "stats" going to be posted?