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charlieDfromNKC wrote:
BGSO wrote:Their hotshot freshmen Arjun who is still IMO too young to be as dominant at varsity as he is at JV.
Age has nothing to do with ability. While this Arjun may or may not be good enough to be a great varsity player as a sophomore, I know I was good enough my sophomore year to beat most Missouri teams and to play close with some others. Also, Keith from RM definitely qualifies as a dominating sophomore last year, no?
Agreed. The question is not "Is he too young" but "Is he good at quizbowl." As 6 of this year's top 25 players were sophomores, it seems that ability and age are not necessarily associated.
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Very true, what if I said I don't think his skills have matured enough, is that better?
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BGSO wrote:Very true, what if I said I don't think his skills have matured enough, is that better?
Better, but "he lacks depth of knowledge" or "he's not yet that good at Quizbowl" would be better.
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Before we all jump on BGSO, he makes a good point. I played against Arjun at least twice this year in the afternoon rounds, and there were times where he looked unbeatable, and times when he hardly touched the buzzer. Some of this inconsistency can be blamed on his freshman/sophomore lack of experience that BGSO is talking about. That said, he is a major bright spot for the future of Fremd scobowl.
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JohnGlerum wrote:Before we all jump on BGSO, he makes a good point. I played against Arjun at least twice this year in the afternoon rounds, and there were times where he looked unbeatable, and times when he hardly touched the buzzer. Some of this inconsistency can be blamed on his freshman/sophomore lack of experience that BGSO is talking about. That said, he is a major bright spot for the future of Fremd scobowl.
I agree 100% although he will most probably dominate on the JV circuit I don't think he is ready to make the jump to Varsity and keep that same level of domination.
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JohnGlerum wrote:Before we all jump on BGSO,
I couldn't agree more ... we should be jumping on John Glerum.


Why? No reason .....
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charlieDfromNKC wrote:Age has nothing to do with ability.
But age has a LOT to do with experience, and experience has a LOT to do with ability. Age directly, no. There are certainly some fantastic underclassmen. But since even they get better with age, the best players tend to be older ones. There are of course exceptions, Sir Dees.
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soooooooooooo
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Sooooo...who (besides us) is planning to go to the U of I Early Bird on October 13?
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I'm fairly sure Auburn's going.
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Who is planning on sending frosh/soph teams to the Fremd Tournament on October 27th?
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David Riley wrote:Sooooo...who (besides us) is planning to go to the U of I Early Bird on October 13?
New Trier is.
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jonah wrote:
David Riley wrote:Sooooo...who (besides us) is planning to go to the U of I Early Bird on October 13?
New Trier is.
That's terrific! If someone from New Trier could shoot me an e-mail and make it official at your convenience, I'd really appreciate that.
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Loyoa plans to send two teams to Fremd.
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I intend to bring a team of Barrington kids to Fremd, which represents BHS's first foray into the non-conference tournament arena at either level. K. Palmer told me he'd send the invite to the attention of our varsity coach. Any idea when I should start asking him if he received it? The reason I ask is because I'd hate to assemble my team and have them practice for a tournament that they wind up never attending because I wasn't vigilant...
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Latin will probably attend the Fremd F/S tournament with one team. I haven't received anything yet, and I wouldn't expect to for a couple more weeks.
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I would do it, especially being in 211 (I'm in 214) we really don't get much exposure to other teams from outside our district (minus the quad). Fremd is a great chance for players to see that there is life outside of the MSL, and proves to be a great experience.

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SIVster716 wrote:I'm fairly sure Auburn's going.


are we going siva?
i can probably ask you cos you're right next to me. but i'm too lazy to.
are we going to ultima siva?
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To any Loyola Academy students who read this forum
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Even though the power is back on, we will not have practce this afternoon since we don't have school. The powers that be would clobber me if I dared host such a thing. We will have practice Thursday (study from 3:15-4 [be on time!!!], then regular practice till 5). We now return you to our regularly scheduled program...maybe we should work out a phne tree to allow for future emergencies??
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Post by Maxwell Sniffingwell »

Hah... that's two posts in a row of teammates and coaches from the same school talking to each other.

Back when I was your age, we used this forum to talk to the OTHER schools.
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cornfused wrote:Back when I was your age, we used this forum to talk to the OTHER schools.
Don't you just wish it was legal to beat senior citizens wth their canes?
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cornfused wrote:Hah... that's two posts in a row of teammates and coaches from the same school talking to each other.

Back when I was your age, we used this forum to talk to the OTHER schools.
Why in my day, we didn't have these fancy forums! We had postal mail, and by golly, we liked it!
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[quote="StPickrellWhy in my day, we didn't have these fancy forums! We had postal mail, and by golly, we liked it![/quote]

Weeeeee LOVED it!
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Any preseason rankings yet?
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DigitalRosh wrote:Any preseason rankings yet?
Yeah, some people posted their projections a few weeks ago... consensus was Auburn #1, with the usual suspects to follow.

Interested to see how IMSA holds up this year myself.
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Teams or individuals?
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David Riley wrote:Teams or individuals?
David! You play nice when you're in the sandbox with the other children!
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David Riley wrote:Teams or individuals?
I will say ranking individuals would be interesting.
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Teams.
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JohnGlerum wrote:Interested to see how IMSA holds up this year myself.
I second... for the obvious reason of the this factor
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If any one is looking or knows a team in the Chicago Area (particularly North and Northwest areas) that is looking to join a league, the Metro North League is looking for new teams. Currently, we have 9 teams (Roycemore, Notre Dame, Carmel, St. Viator, St. Pat's, Driscoll, Latin, St. Ignatius, and Whitney Young) and each team plays each other twice over the course of 4 meets. Please contact Matt Bardoe at the Latin School of Chicago, [email protected] for more information.
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Matt Bardoe wrote:If any one is looking or knows a team in the Chicago Area (particularly North and Northwest areas) that is looking to join a league, the Metro North League is looking for new teams. Currently, we have 9 teams (Roycemore, Notre Dame, Carmel, St. Viator, St. Pat's, Driscoll, Latin, St. Ignatius, and Whitney Young) and each team plays each other twice over the course of 4 meets. Please contact Matt Bardoe at the Latin School of Chicago, [email protected] for more information.
A year ago ..... I might have had a taker on that .... :twisted:

I don't know any other good Catholic/private/independent schools in that neck of the woods. :wink:
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Tegan wrote:I don't know any other good Catholic/private/independent schools in that neck of the woods. :wink:
Not gonna happen.
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We would be glad to have public schools as well. So don't limit your thoughts in anyway. :grin: We would also welcome any schools that might want to just get started with a team.

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Matt Bardoe wrote:We would be glad to have public schools as well. So don't limit your thoughts in anyway. :grin: We would also welcome any schools that might want to just get started with a team.

Matt
Seriously .... a year or two or three ago, when I was coaching, I might have entertained a conference schedule like the one NMSBL runs. The fact is, I think all of hte public schools are in conferences or leagues.

The only thing I can think of: about a year ago, the old Suburban Prairie Conference broke up .... I'm not a million percent sure that they all got into leagues again .... you might start there ....

The Suburban Prairie was ginormous ..... it stretched out to Kaneland in Kane County all the way down to Evergreen Park and south of there. I know Evergreen Park joined SICA which is now the South Suburban Conference.
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A revised schedule of tournaments for the year is available at http://www.ihssbca.org.

A few new tournaments have been added, particularly in the central part of the state. If you know of any others, please email me at [email protected].
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Laird, I laugh at your picture! What a joke!

Go Cubs!
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JohnGlerum wrote:Laird, I laugh at your picture! What a joke!

Go Cubs!
Rich nor' sider from Kenilworth is getting ready to use his platinum card to purchase a jumbo can of whoop butt .... I don't know what's worse ... insulting Coach Laird or backing the Cubs.

Actually, backing the Cubs is worse.
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Tegan wrote:Actually, backing the soon-to-be-playoff bound Cubs is amazing.
Fixed.
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"Guzman on the hill. Stoney, ya spell that backward it's...Namzooog."
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Alas, I will never hear the end of the "Kenilworth" insults. Mr. Laird is the man, but I cannot defend his poor choice in Chicago baseball teams.
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Post by AKKOLADE »

Hey guys, it's Jim Thome :(

Be nice to Jim Thome. If you can't like and cheer for Jim Thome, then you can't like baseball either.
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leftsaidfred wrote:If you can't like and cheer for Jim Thome, then you can't like baseball either.
Ha!
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Remember: He who laughs last, laughs at the Cubs.
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Am I the only one on this board who likes both the Cubs AND the Mets?
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David Riley wrote:Am I the only one on this board who likes both the Cubs AND the Mets?
No. But the Cubs first.
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Post by Maxwell Sniffingwell »

I assume most Cubs fans, myself included, like the Mets. If you like the whole all-success-all-the-time attitude in Yankeeland, then why are you a Cubs fan?
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No no no no no. Even myself, as a Sox fan, know that it is physically impossible to like both the Cubs and the Mets. 1969? Come on. Ron Santo won't even go to Shea Stadium to do broadcasts there.
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mlaird wrote:No no no no no. Even myself, as a Sox fan, know that it is physically impossible to like both the Cubs and the Mets. 1969? Come on. Ron Santo won't even go to Shea Stadium to do broadcasts there.
Sorry Matt, some of us don't remember that year.
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Back in my day, the Illinois board discussed quizbowl. Ah, how things have changed.
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