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Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:32 pm
by brownboy79
Normal. Definitely. I was NAQT neg champ as a sophomore. Man, I started early.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:33 am
by akinney
Anyone know anything about Berea? Apparently, we're playing them in the first round.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:25 am
by Mephistopheles
Danville shut them out 42-0 during the first half of their preliminary match at regionals.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:38 am
by Andrew from jc
ohh, that doesn't sound like it was a pretty game.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:11 pm
by Brian_ECHS
What about those pools?

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:18 pm
by Detisch
I'm not really too sure how I like our draw. Johnson Central isn't a team I was hoping to play so soon. I don't know anything about Henry Clay though so its hard to say how it will go.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:37 pm
by akinney
Mephistopheles wrote:Danville shut them out 42-0 during the first half of their preliminary match at regionals.
Thanks Mephisto! Do you know about Rowan or Boone?
Brian_ECHS wrote:What about those pools?
Our pool rocks so far. Edmonson has a good pool. Dawson Springs, runner-up in our region (don't know how) was excited to go to state. Then they were informed they drew PLD, Daviess and Pikeville. Eh....
Detisch wrote:I'm not really too sure how I like our draw. Johnson Central isn't a team I was hoping to play so soon. I don't know anything about Henry Clay though so its hard to say how it will go.
You guys played them close at Fleming County. They got beaten prematurely last year. If Campbell works hard I'm sure you guys will do fine.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:47 pm
by Brian_ECHS
I really feel bad for daviess county. they beat us in region and look what they got to show for it. Dunbar and Pikeville.
We beat Boone county 44-26 at fleming county but i don't know anything about rowan.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:34 pm
by akinney
Brian_ECHS wrote:I really feel bad for daviess county. they beat us in region and look what they got to show for it. Dunbar and Pikeville.
We beat Boone county 44-26 at fleming county but i don't know anything about rowan.
That's true. What are Boone's strong points?

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:42 pm
by Brian_ECHS
That don't have any strong points that i remember. I owned them in math and science and colton got all the arts and humanities so social studies i guess.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:36 am
by akinney
Brian_ECHS wrote:That don't have any strong points that i remember. I owned them in math and science and colton got all the arts and humanities so social studies i guess.
That's good. Because social studies happens to be what I'm best at.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:14 am
by FCPanther
Thanks Mephisto! Do you know about Rowan or Boone?
Rowan is a solid team. They've got four guys that can all score in their areas. We (Fleming) played them twice before Gov. Cup and beat them both times (12 points and 18 points), but for whatever reason, we just didn't get it done in the region.

They aren't super fast. Their math guy is much more accurate on bonus, when he has a little more time. Their SS/LA guy is their captain and leading scorer, and probably their most well rounded player. The other two guys pick up Sci and Hum, and some of that random stuff we all love. All in all they're solid, they won't wow anyone with speed or an otherworldly knowledge base.

I do know they lost to Ashland and Paintsville in their league, but I don't have scores on those games.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:58 pm
by Detisch
Boone is in our league so we played them two or three times. We never lost to them. I would agree that they're best at social studies. I mostly remember them as a pretty streaky team. Does anybody know much about Henry Clay?

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:12 pm
by asdf
Detisch wrote:Boone is in our league so we played them two or three times. We never lost to them. I would agree that they're best at social studies. I mostly remember them as a pretty streaky team. Does anybody know much about Henry Clay?
Two people
Stephen Fritz
Preston Goulson

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:33 pm
by brownboy79
They're good. As far as I remember. When I wasn't there at one of our league matches, they beat us by a question. At Regionals, I think the score was something like 60-20, but that's probably more lopsided than it should have been. Also, does anyone know much about Pikeville, Dawson Springs, or Daviess?

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:50 pm
by akinney
brownboy79 wrote:They're good. As far as I remember. When I wasn't there at one of our league matches, they beat us by a question. At Regionals, I think the score was something like 60-20, but that's probably more lopsided than it should have been. Also, does anyone know much about Pikeville, Dawson Springs, or Daviess?
Dawson Springs is... well, terrible. But what can you expect? They're a K-12 school in an independent district with like 600 total students. They beat Hopkins Co. Central 17-16 on an inquiry about "A Doll's House" (they said A Doll House, Central inquired, but they got lucky because that was the original in Norwegian). Madisonville North beat Dawson, I think, 40-20 in one game. (Can't remember if it was the final or not). Caldwell County would've had a better chance at state (we were up big time at the end of the first half, but it ended up at like 27-24), but somehow Dawson beat them. Although their captain is good eye candy. Our spotter mispronounced her name (Gina) like the female anatomical organ (Freudian slip, anyone?). LOL.

Pikeville is a team that no one knows much about this year. But they are always pretty good. So go in expecting a good team.

Daviess County is good this year. They tend to do worse on pyramidal, though. Madisonville played them 3-4 times this year. We beat them 29-27 when they didn't have their main player. We beat them at a PAA Tournament (with pyramid questions) 22-16. And at Fleming County they slaughtered us like 58-17. (I think we fell asleep or something, I've yet to figure that out). They can score in just about anything, but Josh (their captain) can't do it all. He's pretty fast on the buzzer, and they tend to be slower on things that you can't memorize by looking at a list. If you'll remember, Daviess County had a strong showing at Hart County.

Papa, have you played Rowan or Boone, or Berea?

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:25 pm
by brownboy79
We have played none of the above. But "A Doll House" isn't a lucky mistake. It's the preferred title (Perrine's Literature has a huge explanation on it). Although, Dawson may have been lucky in getting it, it's definitely the more correct version. Too bad the world of quiz bowl has yet to pick up on this, particularly in Kentucky. Every time I hear that question, I'm torn between the more acceptable and the more correct. Ah well.
It's odd because Pikeville is generally good, but I know nothing about them this year. And I don't remember playing Daviess at Hart Co. Then again, I think most of those matches were fairly similar and they ran together in my head. And this Gina seems to be a different quiz bowl girl. Not a bad trend, is it, Aaron?
Also, has anyone else noticed that if you win your first two games, you don't have to play the rest? I'm pulling for Daviess over Pikeville.

And Berea is decent, but I wouldn't worry too much. We played them a couple years ago at Derby and they were alright. I haven't played the other two, but expect Rowan to be good at math.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:57 pm
by akinney
brownboy79 wrote:We have played none of the above. But "A Doll House" isn't a lucky mistake. It's the preferred title (Perrine's Literature has a huge explanation on it). Although, Dawson may have been lucky in getting it, it's definitely the more correct version. Too bad the world of quiz bowl has yet to pick up on this, particularly in Kentucky. Every time I hear that question, I'm torn between the more acceptable and the more correct. Ah well.
It's odd because Pikeville is generally good, but I know nothing about them this year. And I don't remember playing Daviess at Hart Co. Then again, I think most of those matches were fairly similar and they ran together in my head. And this Gina seems to be a different quiz bowl girl. Not a bad trend, is it, Aaron?
Also, has anyone else noticed that if you win your first two games, you don't have to play the rest? I'm pulling for Daviess over Pikeville.

And Berea is decent, but I wouldn't worry too much. We played them a couple years ago at Derby and they were alright. I haven't played the other two, but expect Rowan to be good at math.
The thing about "A Doll House" is that when you play teams like Russell, you always have to worry about inquiries. It doesn't matter if they know you're right, they are going to try and capitalize on the relatively unintelligent moderators/judges. At Hart County, there was an answer about three Balkan nations, and we were playing Russell. For one of my answers, I said "Bosnia and Herzegovina", which is one country. Of course, Knupp inquired on it. Too bad he didn't realize his team got the bonus, and it still went into overtime. Which we botched. So all in all, I prefer saying the more "colloquial" answer, not because of it's correctness, but because it's more inquiry-friendly.

And it's not a bad trend. But I doubt it'll ever catch on.

Why do you want Daviess to beat Pikeville? I can't stand Daviess. Maybe it's just because of our bad performance against them in the first playoff round at Fleming.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:31 pm
by Brian_ECHS
Many teams can't stand Daviess county. I think pikeville will win since we played them both this year. Pikeville beat us 57-28 and the most daviess county has beaten us by is 4.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:01 pm
by brownboy79
A couple years ago at NAQT states, we (the B team then) played Pikeville first thing in the morning. We played poorly and it went down to the last question with them up ten and they buzzed in early with Degas. The moderator, however, ruled it incorrect for whatever reason. The answer was clearly Degas, but we didn't buzz in because it was ruled incorrect so we lost with "Renoir." When the moderator read the answer aloud ("Degas") we questioned his ruling of incorrect on Pikeville's answer. He then said he had said "hesitation" not "incorrect" contrary to the ears of our team, and several parents watching the match. I was royally pissed off, and it was unfair to be mad at Pikeville about that, because they would've won, barring a sweep on our part of the PLEASE MAKE FUN OF ME BECAUSE I SPEAK NEITHER LATIN NOR ENGLISH, but their lack of grace after winning a match in such a manner really irked me.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:48 pm
by tbrowning
I'm probably one of the first from Pikeville to post on this site, but I think we have a pretty good team this year. We came within 2 or 3 points of JCHS at region, though they beat us by 13ish the next match. We've got a fairly young team because of the exodus of players that were in the senior class last year. I think we've got most of our bases covered though.

Papa, do you know who was on the team you were playing? Eric, Faraz, Ben, Austin maybe?

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:16 pm
by brownboy79
I recall Austin, though none of the rest. It was NAQT and names were not given. In qualification to the last comment, I want you to know that I have full respect for your team and wish you the best of luck. But not against us. :wink: And I certainly don't hold you guys to anything that happened a couple of years ago, but as you can understand, it was particularly irritating to come out on the bottom of that type of match. Good luck!

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:17 pm
by brownboy79
ALSO:
If you are not coming to the Bulldog Tournament at Dunbar this Saturday, and you are available, I hope you will consider trying to make it. We have a great field but we have a slot open. Please contact my coach at [email protected] if you are interested. It is an NAQT format tournament with bounceback bonuses and a 15 question two minute worksheet.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:41 pm
by akinney
brownboy79 wrote:ALSO:
If you are not coming to the Bulldog Tournament at Dunbar this Saturday, and you are available, I hope you will consider trying to make it. We have a great field but we have a slot open. Please contact my coach at [email protected] if you are interested. It is an NAQT format tournament with bounceback bonuses and a 15 question two minute worksheet.
Papa, would you happen to have a field? Could you tell me a few of the teams there? And how large is the field?

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:22 pm
by brownboy79
It's something like 16 teams, really really small, I know.
Right now some of the teams I remembered seeing are:
Ezell Harding
Johnson Co.
MadNoHo
Daviess
Ballard (I noted them because of their surprising finish at Hart Co.)
Manual

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:29 pm
by akinney
brownboy79 wrote:It's something like 16 teams, really really small, I know.
Right now some of the teams I remembered seeing are:
Ezell Harding
Johnson Co.
MadNoHo
Daviess
Ballard (I noted them because of their surprising finish at Hart Co.)
Manual
Sounds pretty competitive. Is there pool play?

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:47 pm
by brownboy79
There was.

Tomorrow's tournament is CANCELLED. Your coach should have received an email. Please do not come. It will almost certainly be gross outside.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:52 pm
by Brian_ECHS
As state draws near I just want to wish everybody good luck.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:45 pm
by akinney
Brian_ECHS wrote:As state draws near I just want to wish everybody good luck.
You too.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:31 pm
by Mephistopheles
After viewing the results of this year's Governor's Cup testing, I'd like to throw an idea around: cumulative scores.

In short, instead of having the state finals test determine everything, would it perhaps be a better idea to incorporate the district and regional exams too? Maybe .2, .3, .5 weight? This would prevent a lot of the luck associated with written assessments, since the sample size would be larger. With the current system, the highest state scores tend to be below 40, which leaves a lot of room for correct guesses and random score fluctuations. I'm a senior, so this doesn't affect me at all. Just thought it would be fairer.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:13 pm
by akinney
Great job to everyone who went to State. I had fun, although I wished my team had done better. We lost to Lone Oak 27-26 in the round of 16. They buzzed in on the hockey injury question with "severing of the neck" and we inquired. Obviously cutting the carotid artery is not severing your neck. Our inquiry was denied and they advanced to quarterfinals, only to lose to Russell.

Anyone know if they release the pictures of the awards they took on the net?

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:59 am
by J C Bennett
Aaron,

As soon as the photographer gets the CD full of pics mailed to me, I post them in a free photo album online. Usually takes a couple days.

Congratulations on a great year.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:03 am
by J C Bennett
Finally got them from the photographer - they are at http://www.pixagogo.com/8862184233

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:06 pm
by ericblair
tbrowning wrote:I'm probably one of the first from Pikeville to post on this site, but I think we have a pretty good team this year. We came within 2 or 3 points of JCHS at region, though they beat us by 13ish the next match. We've got a fairly young team because of the exodus of players that were in the senior class last year. I think we've got most of our bases covered though.

Papa, do you know who was on the team you were playing? Eric, Faraz, Ben, Austin maybe?
definitely not one of the first from Pikeville. old dude has been lurking for a while now ;-)

I've never played in a KY Naqt State Tournament. I think that happened a year or two after I graduated. I'm an old guy. Nor do I think Faraz ever played in it either. I could be wrong though.

Re: Kentucky '07-'08

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:05 pm
by Andrew from jc
Wow, its been a while since anyone has posted here.