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2007 PACE NSC preliminary field

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:05 am
by First Chairman
This list is subject to change by me or Bykowski as we receive intentions to compete. This list is completely tentative.

Maximum field 40
* received payment

36 teams Pre-registered automatic
Brindlee Mountain 3 (AL)*
Carbondale (IL)*
Cary Academy (NC)*
Centennial 2 (MD)*
Detroit Catholic Central 2 (MI)
Detroit Country Day (MI)*
Dorman (SC)*
East Lansing (MI)
Episcopal Collegiate (AR)*
Garfield Heights (OH)
Gonzaga (DC)*
Hardee (FL)*
Maggie Walker 3 (VA)
Martin Luther King Magnet (TN)*
Moravian Academy (PA)*
New Trier (IL)*
Novi (MI)*
Perry Hall (MD)*
Robinson (NC)
Solon (OH)*
St. Andrew's Episcopal (MS)
State College 2 (PA)*
Stuyvesant (NY)
Thomas Jefferson 2 (VA)
Tippecanoe 2 (OH, second is wildcard)*
Toledo St. John's Jesuit (OH)*
Walter Johnson (MD)

6 schools Interested but awaiting confirmation
Conway (AR)
Eden Prairie (MN)
North Charleston Academic Magnet (SC)
Ocean Lakes (VA)
Rancho Bernardo (CA)
Rogers (AR)

If you want to be on this list, let me know so we can monitor and manage the field appropriately.

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:48 am
by Djibouti
Perry Hall (MD - automatic) is in the midst of a massive community fund-raising campaign. We have a strong committment from our school administration, but are awaiting more funds from area businesses before we can commit definitively. Even so, we intend to compete barring a complete fund-raising failure or unexpected outside circumstances.

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:56 am
by quizbowllee
Brindlee Mountain will be there with at least two teams. We are requesting a wild-card for a third.

Thanks,

Lee

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:37 am
by quizbowllee
Not to be rude, but who is SS Murphy from Alabama? I've never heard of them... which is odd considering that I've followed Alabama quiz bowl for the last 10+ years.

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:27 am
by Byko
quizbowllee wrote:Not to be rude, but who is SS Murphy from Alabama? I've never heard of them... which is odd considering that I've followed Alabama quiz bowl for the last 10+ years.
My information is that they're from southern Alabama. They had contacted us a few months ago, and I really knew very little about them myself. However, I've noticed that they've qualified for ASCA state, so that gets them an automatic qualification for NSC.

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:49 am
by quizbowllee
Ok. I think I have heard of Murphy High School. I think that the "S.S." threw off my recognition.

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:42 pm
by BobGHHS
ETC, I'm pretty sure our team is planning on coming, although when you responded to my wildcard request, you said we had already qualified...

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:48 pm
by First Chairman
Yep, Bob, you did as you qualified for state (as well as other things). I was just going by my old notes before I head out to NC.

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:31 pm
by Matthew D
Hey Dr Chuck,
Didn't MLK from TN qualify at my tournament in the fall?

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:35 am
by First Chairman
Yes they did earn an automatic bid. I just haven't heard final confirmation that they are coming (at least according to old notes).

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:26 pm
by jrbellas
Tippecanoe will be requesting a wildcard spot for a B team. I am in the process of filling out paperwork. Spring Break has interrupted our processing of finances, but we will definitely beat the deadline.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:50 am
by square634
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this, but Centennial would like to bring two teams. We already booked other stuff, but somehow it slipped our minds to actually register.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:53 am
by First Chairman
Okay... send me and Bykowski your registration info.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:00 am
by First Chairman
General warning for everyone:

if you see the list, 22 teams have registered, and we have 13 schools indicating interest. I am projecting that we will be getting 40-44 teams from all of those who are interested. As our limit is 48, it is very important that teams declare and clarify their participation for the NSC as soon as possible if they have not already done so.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:09 am
by square634
What is Mr. Bykwoski's e-mail address?

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:33 am
by Byko
square634 wrote:What is Mr. Bykwoski's e-mail address?
The best one to reach me at is the one linked to my entries: dbykowski at aiquizbowl dot com. Sometimes the server burps and rejects e-mails--if there's a problem, just put a post up here and I'll give out a different address. But this is the one that's best for all things qb-related.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:46 pm
by Rainmaker203
Sorry about the late notice, but Rogers, AR is interested in attending. Our district will not give us the funding until we provide them with an exact itinerary however, and I would greatly appreciate it if someone would send me an e-mail or message with the specifics for this event.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:27 am
by First Chairman
Send me and Bykowski and email. We'll try to fill in the gaps.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:00 am
by First Chairman
I would like to remind those schools on the "waiting for confirmation list" to please let me and Bykowski know of your decisions very soon. I want to be sure that we can manage the field, now that there is 6 weeks to go.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:32 am
by First Chairman
Bumping thread to update...

Looking at the field and those awaiting to reply, I am comfortable with accepting the three pending wildcard bids. We are now at 31 slots of 48 taken, with projected field of 36-40.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:46 am
by quizbowllee
When will questions from last year's NSC be made available to registered teams?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:49 am
by First Chairman
As soon as I can get my butt in gear and compress the right files. The issue is spam-filters as I have had some difficulty sending the questions from 1998-2005 to teams because of the local spam filters eating up those zipped files.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:04 am
by quizbowllee
Oh, yeah. For what it is worth, here is our list of 3-year participants:

Andy Knowles
Mark Morris
Amanda Hardin
Justin Decker
John Morgan
Rachel Hill
Riley Denton

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:09 pm
by BuzzerZen
Dr. Chuck, try using senduit to send the files to people. It'll obviate the need to actually attach the files to an e-mail.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:59 am
by hardeecoach
Yes, we could use them too! Here in Florida, we play so many formats we get confused pretty quickly. I'm still practicing Panasonic format right now since I'm assistant coach for Team Florida and my captain is on the team... It's really hard to shift your mindset around every tournament format!

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:17 pm
by First Chairman
Teams that are on the "registered/confirmed" list should have received an email detailing the website from which you can download the NSC questions as a zipped file. If you have problems, please let me know.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:11 pm
by Djibouti
Perry Hall (Maryland; automatic) WILL be in attendance. Mr. Chuck, I'll be sending an e-mail, but could you please send an official invoice to [email protected]? Mr. Geibel is our coach, and we need an official invoice in order to collect on the PTSA's promise to pay our registration fee. Looking forward to June!

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:13 pm
by Byko
Djibouti wrote:Perry Hall (Maryland; automatic) WILL be in attendance. Mr. Chuck, I'll be sending an e-mail, but could you please send an official invoice to [email protected]? Mr. Geibel is our coach, and we need an official invoice in order to collect on the PTSA's promise to pay our registration fee. Looking forward to June!
If you could make sure Tom and I both get all of your information, that would be great, and I can send an invoice. I will need to know how many buzzer systems you will be bringing before I can put an invoice together, which will happen either tonight or tomorrow evening.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:39 am
by quizbowllee
We started practicing yesterday on last year's NSC questions. We played round 14, which I assume was the Championship match between Raleigh Charter and Richard Montgomery. After playing, the kids wanted to know what the final score was in the championship last year. I poured through all the old threads about the tournament, but could not find the final score posted anywhere. Can anyone elaborate on what the score was?

BTW - Round 14 was a ridiculously hard packet of questions last year!

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:06 am
by First Chairman
I don't remember off-hand. Actually R14 I think was last year's semifinals. Matt has the scoresheets at last check, but I'm sure that Eric can answer that.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:46 am
by quizbowllee
E.T. Chuck wrote:I don't remember off-hand. Actually R14 I think was last year's semifinals. Matt has the scoresheets at last check, but I'm sure that Eric can answer that.
Round 14 is the last round in the 2006 set that was sent to us. Is there a missing Round 15?

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:13 am
by First Chairman
I have it, so I probably forgot to zip it with the other files. Give me a little time.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:38 pm
by Zip Zap Rap Pants
I believe the score was 400 - 260 (not totally sure, could've been 240)

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:18 pm
by Matt Weiner
I can verify that Round 14 was the championship semifinal/consolation final and that Round 15 was the championship final, which is why they were more difficult. I'll have to do a little digging to find the scores from those games, but I recall around 75% of points being converted.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:01 pm
by vcuEvan
If I can remember correctly Round 14 was a step up from the prelims with TUs on All the Pretty Horses, Kahlil Gibran, a other stuff that even the esteemed Chris Ray didn't get to the end. Round 15 was harder than that, though Raleigh Charter made it look easy.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:17 pm
by DumbJaques
Round 14 was a good, hard round that featured a balance of questions not converted until the end, some nice early buzzes, and a tossup on the esteemed Evan's favorite painting.

I'd like someone to send me the pace set (or at least round 15), but from memory round 15 was not a good round. In fact, I'd go so far as too say it was quite the disappointment. The primary problem was with the tossups, in that a significant amount of them were pretty much ungettable until the end. These included Bremstrahlung or whatever (which was not converted by anyone), Horst Wessel (the person), and some ridiculous planned community in Florida called Ave Maria. In particular, the last two were NAQTarded in the "blah blah blah shares its name with/lends his name to" fashion. I also recall a science bonus I doubt anyone at the tournament could have 10ed, and two tossups in the stretch round on modern African history. As I said after the tournament, my problems with the set are unrelated to the fact that RC won. They played a better game then we did, hands down. That doesn't change the fact that I think the set kind of sucked. Why a set more analogous to the semifinals would not have been adequate to differentiate between the best hs teams in the country is a little unclear to me. Looking back at those few answers I can remember, those don't seem hard to me now. I'd convert a tossup with a "breaking radiation" giveaway, and I hate physics. A lot. But I think this goes to the essential problem of that set: It was written by people who, understandably, find it hard to stay perfectly in tune with the hs canon. Writing DACQ questions, I find myself constantly having to revise and throw out tossups or restructure clues because they're just not hs appropriate, and I haven't even been out of that game for a year yet. I love PACE, I loved PACE NSC 2006, and hell, I belong to PACE. But I'd like to see there be some oversight in terms of that stuff.

Oh, and while I'm PACE-bashing, what the Christ is going on with the PACE website?

*Note: All the questions were of course excellently written. But a tossup on the planned community of Ave Maria sucks no matter who writes it.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:04 pm
by First Chairman
The website has been under construction for a while, I admit. I have the passwords to change the content and I'll try to get to it this week as I have time.

Basically anyone who would like to take over as website guru, I'm willing to let you redesign the site a bit more. :)

Send me your email, I'll send you the set.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 7:35 am
by rchschem
E.T. Chuck wrote:I don't remember off-hand. Actually R14 I think was last year's semifinals. Matt has the scoresheets at last check, but I'm sure that Eric can answer that.
Indeed. RM A 240, RCHS 400.

If you would like more detail than that, I can supply it. My personal scoresheets are a little obsessive.

EDIT: And the points were there in both rounds, even though both rounds were difficult (Grignards? Senteria? Embarkation for Cythera? Not to mention Horst Wessel. Yikes.). Our semifinal against SC A was 415-225. I credit our afternoon success to a fine meal at Cinelli's.

Eric

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:28 am
by vcuEvan
I can remember Raleigh Charter getting perfectly legit TUs such as Embarkation for Cythera, Ball of Fat and The Man that Corrupted Hadleyburg, and other stuff that I'm sure I forget.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:33 am
by rchschem
iambusyeating wrote:...The Man that Corrupted Hadleyburg...
We got that on a technicality.

Though it was a testament to the canon to hear just about every PACE official in the room simultaneously go off when Chris said "The Man WHO..."

Eric

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:06 am
by First Chairman
It is a "Stopping by Woods..." situation. Many times have I (and others) been pinged on "Stopping by THE Woods..."; just ask Sue Korosa. ;)

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:37 pm
by Byko
DumbJaques wrote:Oh, and while I'm PACE-bashing, what the Christ is going on with the PACE website?
I think you'll find it to be quite better right now with more to come. Good things can happen when I have slow days at work.

Rosters received list

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:25 am
by First Chairman
updated.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:41 am
by First Chairman
Talking about my duplication...

Re: Rosters received list

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:24 am
by Byko
E.T. Chuck wrote:I have received rosters from the following schools so far.
  • Brindlee Mountain
    Carbondale
    Cary Academy
    Centennial
    Culver Academies
    Detroit Catholic Central
    Detroit Country Day
    Dorman
    Garfield Heights
    Gonzaga
    Hardee
    Martin Luther King Magnet
    Moravian Academy
    New Trier
    Novi
    Perry Hall
    Regina
    Robinson
    Solon
    State College
    Stuyvesant
This is 21 of 26 confirmed schools reporting. Each school has included all of their subteams.
I am nearly certain that I have Episcopal Collegiate's roster as well--it stands out to me because I believe their senior is attending West Point next year.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:26 am
by First Chairman
Okay... I'll check the emails again. I thought I had everyone, but it's the best I can do with insomnia. :)

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:21 am
by First Chairman
Revised rosters received list

Brindlee Mountain
Carbondale
Cary Academy
Centennial
Culver Academies
Detroit Catholic Central
Detroit Country Day
Dorman
Episcopal College
Garfield Heights
Gonzaga
Hardee
Maggie Walker
Martin Luther King Magnet
Moravian Academy
New Trier
Novi
Perry Hall
Regina
Robinson
Solon
State College
Stuyvesant
Tippecanoe
Walter Johnson

You guys are amazing. That's 25 of 26 schools. No pressure on #26... ;)

Please send me updates and college choices as soon as possible. Also photos here or on the Facebook group please.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:16 pm
by Matt Weiner
quizbowllee wrote:We started practicing yesterday on last year's NSC questions. We played round 14, which I assume was the Championship match between Raleigh Charter and Richard Montgomery. After playing, the kids wanted to know what the final score was in the championship last year. I poured through all the old threads about the tournament, but could not find the final score posted anywhere. Can anyone elaborate on what the score was?
OK, I retrieved the official scoresheets.

Semifinals:

Richard Montgomery A 410, Maggie Walker A 355
Raleigh Charter A 415, State College A 225

Final:

Raleigh Charter 400, Richard Montgomery A 240

All-Star Game:

Team Left 610, Team Right 250

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:02 pm
by BuzzerZen
E.T. Chuck wrote:
You guys are amazing. That's 25 of 26 schools. No pressure on #26... ;)
Hey now...

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:08 pm
by First Chairman
:cool:

Actually there may be one or two other schools in the mix, so you won't be the only ones. :)