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Final Four Teams

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:15 am
by evilmonkey
Just wondering, but if you had to pick one team to make the Final Four, who would it be?

I'm going with Texas A&M

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:53 am
by ValenciaQBowl
Um, Florida?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:14 am
by The Goffman Prophecies
Hoki, hoki, hoki - yeah, right, There's no way they're making the Final Four.

My money's on Georgetown.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:21 am
by First Chairman
MAKING the Final Four is easy (relatively speaking). Winning is not.

Hoyas.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:31 am
by Golden Tiger 86
Florida is the one team that absolutely SHOULD make it to Atlanta.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:50 am
by First Chairman
Of course they should... which means they probably won't. :)

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:25 pm
by Matt Weiner
I picked all the #1 seeds to fall, but I'm most confident about UCLA defeating Kansas.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:27 pm
by Irreligion in Bangladesh
If Barnes actually lets Durant play in the tournament, there's little reason Texas can't beat UNC and make the final four.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:14 pm
by Djibouti
Everyone things Florida is amazing stuff, but they're going to lose to Maryland in the Sweet Sixteen. My Final Four are Wisconsin, Kansas, Georgetown, and Ohio State. Georgetown is the biggest lock.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:25 pm
by theMoMA
I don't believe in Wisconsin or G'Town.

I like Florida, Kansas, Ohio State, and Texas. I have UCLA in one bracket as well. I really think the champ will be one of FL, KS, or OSU.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:44 pm
by swwFCqb
O H...I O

GO BUCKS!!!!! (of course, I am completely biased)

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:37 am
by gonzagaeagleahy
oregon fo sho

it'll be a surprise
but it's totally gonna happen

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:41 am
by gonzagaeagleahy
my other three teams are texas a&m, g-town, and ucla

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:25 am
by ecks
I have Ohio St, Wisconsin, UCLA, and USC (my designated cinderella). I really don't think Kansas is any good, but I'm probably biased because the only game I've actually seen them play was at home vs. Oral Roberts.

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:57 am
by Byko
My final four, in decreasing order of confidence:

Ohio State
Florida
Georgetown
Kansas

I had felt good about Kansas earlier. Then I saw how UCLA did what they were supposed to and blow Weber State all the way back to Utah. Now I'm worried.

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:15 am
by Zip Zap Rap Pants
My bracket's final four, in order of confidence, and seed (1,2,3,4):

Florida - winner
Georgetown - 2nd
TAMU
SIU

Also, I see way too many people have only 1 and 2 seeds in the final four, which is unamerican, I mean come on, you have to at least pick one big upset or a mid-major.

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:22 am
by The Answer
Florida, Kansas, Georgetown, and Ohio State. I actually have Pitt beating Kansas in the elite 8 in one of my brackets and thats the one doing the best right now. No one can say that Florida will not make it to the Final four because they were all here last year. They have experience and they know what to do when it comes down to the wire. They are my pick to win it all, especially if they make it to the final 4. Wisconsin is up there with memphis as being the weakest 2 seed. They will beat Oregon, but they will then get dominated by Florida. Southern Illinois is a solid pick, but they have to get past Kansas after Kansas rapes Kentucky tonight. Ohio State almost screwed up everyone's bracket yesterday, but I still don't think they will finish any worst than the final four.

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:43 am
by No Sollositing On Premise
Florida, Georgetowm, Virginia, and UCLA. I don't exactly have the most faith in it at the moment, and the only money pool I'm in had just a five-dollar buy-in, but at least all four are still alive. Regional bias ftw.

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:09 pm
by Golden Tiger 86
Florida
UCLA
Georgetown
Texas A&M

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:24 am
by Byko
laszlow wrote:Florida, Georgetowm, Virginia, and UCLA. I don't exactly have the most faith in it at the moment, and the only money pool I'm in had just a five-dollar buy-in, but at least all four are still alive. Regional bias ftw.
Not so fast, my friend!

In all seriousness, though, this is a weird tournament this year. Picking the chalk would, so far, give you 27 of the Threatening 32 and 11 of the Sweet Sixteen. How many other people are getting beaten by pure chalk right now?

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:33 am
by ValenciaQBowl
In my cul-de-sac pool, a neighbor's wife who admittedly has seen no college games all year is leading just by nearly always picking the top seeds and then getting lucky on things like UNLV because she likes going to Vegas. Those of us who thought we knew what we were doing tried to pick a 13 and/or 12 to win beause one or two do every year. My pick of Davidson into the Sweet Sixteen is looking a bit overthought now, for sure. So it goes.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:24 pm
by NotBhan
Byko wrote: In all seriousness, though, this is a weird tournament this year. Picking the chalk would, so far, give you 27 of the Threatening 32 and 11 of the Sweet Sixteen. How many other people are getting beaten by pure chalk right now?
Yup. I was hoping that the Texas loss would mess up brackets for some of the people in my pool ... unfortunately none of them followed closely enough to even consider taking Texas over UNC. On the other hand, most of the same people picked Wisconsin to reach the regional final and Wash St to reach the Sweet 16, so at least that made a small dent.

I'm not sure what happened with the lack of upsets this year. Perhaps teams which might have been primed for staging an upset happened to get matched up with teams less susceptible to upsets -- for instance, Long Beach State might have blown out a highly-ranked plodding Big Ten team, but Tennessee's combination of strong offense and non-sucky defense led to a blowout the other way.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:26 pm
by The Goffman Prophecies
ValenciaQBowl wrote:In my cul-de-sac pool, a neighbor's wife who admittedly has seen no college games all year is leading just by nearly always picking the top seeds and then getting lucky on things like UNLV because she likes going to Vegas. Those of us who thought we knew what we were doing tried to pick a 13 and/or 12 to win beause one or two do every year. My pick of Davidson into the Sweet Sixteen is looking a bit overthought now, for sure. So it goes.
Same here - I picked Arkansas to upset USC, and George Washington to make the Sweet 16. Bad ideas. I think this is the first year that I can remember where there hasn't been at least one 12 seed upset a 5 seed. I still have 11 of my Sweet 16 left, and all of my Elite 8 and Final Four teams.

(I do claim some credit for using the same logic to pick the Winthrop upset of Notre Dame and the VCU win over Duke.)

The leader in our pool at work won't be the leader for long; she forgot to pick a winner of the championship game in our Yahoo pool. It will be nice to laud victory over my senior manager and my vice president.

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:53 am
by ValenciaQBowl
Okay, so I guess this is the thread for general tournament discussion.

I'm just horrified by Tennessee's gag last night. You've got OSU down 19 in the first half and Oden with three fouls, then you have to win that game. Even as a Gator who should hate the Vols for their shellacking of us a while back (not to mention making us listen to Pat Summit sing 'Rocky Top'), I really like their style of play--they're fun to watch. It would've been great to see them go up and down vs. Memphis. That game would've looked like a Denver Nuggets-San Antonio Spurs match-up circa 1983.

It's looking like we might have an Elite Eight with four #1 seeds, three #2 seeds, and either Oregon or UNLV (so probably a #3 seed). So much for the madness this year.

PS--so who's going to coach Kentucky? They'll probably make a run at Billy Donovan, but I don't think he has any reason to go face that pressure, and he has shown he can recruit and win at UF. Everyone says Gillespie from A&M is the guy . . .

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:20 am
by First Chairman
Well, at least the games will be exciting... I think there were enough people upset with last year's madness that this year is probably a "correction". It's amazing when a committee actually seems to have done its job right. :wink:

But yes, many of those top seeds got very lucky indeed.

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:02 pm
by ValenciaQBowl
Okay, so we have a Final Four now. Where's the chatter? Thoughts, hopes?

Though I still desperately want the Gators to close out with a second title, as a fan I feel like their making the four again justifies the decision made by Noah, Brewer, Green, and Horford to return (not that that decision even needs justifying). No one can argue they haven't been successful. But they've been pretty grim-faced about their work in the tournament up to now, and I'm hoping that making the four will free them to play hard and not worry about anybody's expectations.

I picked UF vs. Georgetown at the beginning, but I wouldn't mind a rematch of the BCS title game.

PS--a few schools really seem to be separating themselves from the pack in the major men's sports: UF, OSU, USC (the California one--they get OJ Mayo next year), and Texas are legit contenders in football and basketball and should continue to be. UNC may join that pack if Butch Davis gets football going there. Va Tech might be close, too.

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:16 pm
by First Chairman
Unbelieveable set of E8 games. Obviously the nightcap of Georgetown-UNC was surreal. Final Four is going to be incredible with the lineup of OSU-Georgetown and the title game rematch.

Ohio State v. Florida as a possible championship game tilt in consecutive major sports (meaning football and basketball)... the chances of that...

yeah, I blew my bracket, but a few of them still picked Georgetown to win it. I had thought Florida would get upset in the S16 or E8... revenge for UCLA is going to be quite interesting indeed...

Here's to hoping we get done with Patriot Games on Saturday early. :)

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:47 pm
by STPickrell
E.T. Chuck wrote:Unbelieveable set of E8 games. Obviously the nightcap of Georgetown-UNC was surreal. Final Four is going to be incredible with the lineup of OSU-Georgetown and the title game rematch.
Be careful -- last year's Final Four was terrible competitively after an exciting Elite Eight.

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:30 pm
by Golden Tiger 86
This year's elite 8 wasn't that good, though...

Kansas-UCLA was not that exciting, Memphis-OSU was a beatdown, Florida-Oregon was a good game, but there was never any feel the Ducks were going to win. UNC-Georgetown was good for 40 minutes, but the last 5 minutes were just a long Hoya beatdown.

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:17 pm
by evilmonkey
Well, If UCLA beats G'town for the championship, then I win the Q-bowl group on ESPN and place 3rd in my dads office pool... so I'm hoping.

I would not like a Florida-OSU rematch. The game earlier in the year - where Ohio State got blown out - turns that idea off in my mind.

Being a fan of the Big East, I have to go with G'town.

Does anyone know when the last time the FINAL FOUR didn't have multiple teams from the same conference?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:27 pm
by The Time Keeper
evilmonkeycma wrote: Does anyone know when the last time the FINAL FOUR didn't have multiple teams from the same conference?
1998 when the final four was Kentucky, Utah, UNC, and Stanford.

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:10 am
by Djibouti
Isn't it funny how the NCAA Basketball tournament allows for rematches of regular season games on a neutral court? Not to say that Michigan was the best team last year (obviously Florida was) in Football, but it's interesting what a playoff does.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:06 am
by ValenciaQBowl
Hey, so there was this game last night, anybody see it? I figured you whippersnappers who stay up late would've had much posting already. But I reckon the game was actually pretty anti-climactic for anyone not a fan of OSU or UF.

I think it's a sure bet that Horford, Noah, and Brewer go pro, while there's a decent chance Taurean Green may come back to hone his game and try to become a first round selection next year. I also figure it's nearly certain Donovan will stay. His parents and wife's parents have homes in Gainesville, his kids have grown up there, his son is a year away from attending UF (and probably being a non-scholarship scrub on the team), and most importantly UF will pay him whatever Kentucky will, and he won't have to live up to their fans' crazy expectations.

As to OSU, Oden is just a nasty beast. When he develops more of a mid-range jumper, he'll tear up the NBA. I hope Conley comes back, as he seems to not be quite ready for the league just yet.

Finally, keep an eye on Brewer in the NBA. He'll be the best pro out of all the Gators.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:08 am
by First Chairman
I'm old... I listened to it on the radio as I was going to bed. It sounded very impressive of a win. I agree on the remark about Conley, if he can keep hitting clutch shots like he did.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:18 am
by Byko
ValenciaQBowl wrote:I think it's a sure bet that Horford, Noah, and Brewer go pro, while there's a decent chance Taurean Green may come back to hone his game and try to become a first round selection next year.
I can't see any reason for any of them to stay. Just don't expect too much from Noah in the NBA--he's a much better defensive player than offensive force.
ValenciaQBowl wrote:I also figure it's nearly certain Donovan will stay. His parents and wife's parents have homes in Gainesville, his kids have grown up there, his son is a year away from attending UF (and probably being a non-scholarship scrub on the team), and most importantly UF will pay him whatever Kentucky will, and he won't have to live up to their fans' crazy expectations.
For all that is good in college basketball, I hope you're right. Florida has, thanks to Donovan, developed into a solid program and Kentucky has slowly dipped below the radar screen and just has its history to lean on for basketball prestige. He's already in the better job right now.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:05 am
by theMoMA
Corey Brewer doesn't look like he'll be a good pro. He's a position tweener, doesn't have a great shot, handle, or post play, and doesn't look to be particularly adept at playmaking on the fly. He'll definately be a good defensive role player like Trenton Hassell or Bruce Bowen or something. But I don't see any of the Florida guys being especially good pro players. Especially no-game Noah.

And for god's sake, someone needs to tell Brewer that the T-shirt under the jersey look is just wrong.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:26 pm
by ValenciaQBowl
Hmm. I have to disagree (of course). At 6'9", Brewer is good size for a small forward in the League, and he can defend twos and fours as well, as he's shown in college, because of his foot speed and wingspan. A great shooter? Maybe not great, but he has sure hit plenty of three-pointers this season, including last night. He's no post player, and as such has no moves there, but his ball handling is acceptable for a non-guard, I think. Besides, he's a great transition player and a devastating finisher (except maybe when challenging Oden--that two-handed block/steal he put on Brewer was NASTY).

But who knows? The comparison to Bowen seems possible, but a Bowen with more to his offensive game than threes.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:25 pm
by vcuEvan
Oh yeah... Congrats to Mr. Meuller for finishing SECOND in the bracket competition. Stick to CBI.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:05 pm
by Zip Zap Rap Pants
LOL on facebook when I look at where I stack up against my friends (14th out of about 110), Brendan Byrne is in first with 148 points, but the funny part was he had every single top seed win every time. Well it didn't take much thinking, but congrats Brendan.