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RESULTS: LIFT VI (10/28/06) @ Northport HS (Long Island, NY)

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:19 am
by BroNi
Long Island Fall Tournament VI

Cosponsored by Kellenberg and Northport HS, held @ Northport HS, Northport, Long Island, NY

NAQT (set TBD), 6 prelim. games, single elim. playoffs. Trophies, Individual Stats, High PPG award and high -5 award.

Fee Structure...
$60.00 First team, $50.00 additional teams, -$10.00 per buzzer, -$10.00 per reader

Registration: 7:30-8:15 am, Prelims start @ 8:30 am - Final ending around 6:00 pm.

We provide breakfast and tourney has been ended on time last couple of years. We also have a continuous projection of current team standings updated after every round.

Hope to see many there!

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:43 am
by Byko
You do mean that this is on October 28, not November 28, right? Just making sure since (1) Nov. 28 is a Tuesday, and (2) a couple of us from Maryland were interesting in making the trip up and moderating.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:28 pm
by Sir Thopas
Just FYI, the NAQT site has you down for IS-63A.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:59 pm
by BroNi
Yes....thank you....I do mean 10/28/06 and not November!!!!

How do I edit this thing???!!!

And yes, I know that NAQT has assigned us that packet, but they also gave the same packet to Charter for their December tourney....and they come to ours and we would like to go to theirs, so........

Topic title is now edited. -- The moderator

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:02 pm
by btressler
BroNi wrote:And yes, I know that NAQT has assigned us that packet, but they also gave the same packet to Charter for their December tourney....and they come to ours and we would like to go to theirs, so........
And not only that, but to prevent this very scheduling I said I would buy geographic exclusivity for New York on whatever set was assigned to the Delaware tournament.

If someone from NAQT could let us know if it is possible for the tournaments to have different sets, it would be appreciated by Bro. Nigel and myself. As far as I can tell, at this time set 61A is not being used anywhere within a 5 hour drive of my tournament (Yale).

- Bill Tressler,
Charter School of Wilmington

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:29 am
by Sir Thopas
Argh, I was planning to attend both Yale and LIFT. Guess we'll just have to see.

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:37 am
by BroNi
.....but unfortunately, we would like to go to Yale as well, so I presented an arguement for Set 62. Haven't heard back from NAQT yet, however.

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:19 pm
by NatusRoma
If I may interject: Yale has requested geographic exclusivity for New York and New Jersey, in addition to the"state" of Connecticut and Rhode Island. This means that there is no danger of LIFT using the same packet as Yale, which means that teams can attend both.

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:45 pm
by btressler
NatusRoma wrote:If I may interject: Yale has requested geographic exclusivity for New York and New Jersey, in addition to the"state" of Connecticut and Rhode Island. This means that there is no danger of LIFT using the same packet as Yale, which means that teams can attend both.
I think the challenge here was that Brother Nigel was trying to get Yale, LIFT, and Delaware all on different sets. It doesn't look like this will be possible, since set 62 is being kept for Princeton, which has run a fall tournament for the past several years.

If Delaware ends up with 61A the choice will affect the teams that would have considered going to DE and Yale (an admittedly small set).

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:48 pm
by BroNi
Long Island Fall Tournament VI
Hosted By Northport HS & Kellenberg Memorial HS
Saturday, October 28, 2006

REGISTRATION FORM
Due by October 23, 2006
Payment due by October 28, 2006


Name of High School: _____

Name of Advisor:_____

Address:_____

Phone:_____ Fax: _____

E-mail:_____

Costs:
First Team: $60.00
# of Additional Teams @ 50.00 each: $_____
Copy of Question Packet following competition $25.00 each:$_____

SUBTOTAL: $_____
Discounts (up to $30)
Number of Buzzer Systems brought by your team @ $10.00 off for each: ___ $_____
Number of Moderators @ $10.00 off for each: ___ $_____

Total Payment Due: $_____


Return this form to: Mary Boccia at Northport High School by October 23rd via US Postage OR electronic mail. Payment is due to Mary Boccia by October 28th. Make all checks payable to Northport High School. Please provide an e-mail address for registration confirmation and in case of the event that we need to contact you quickly. Questions may be directed to either of the addresses listed below:

Mary Boccia, Mathematics Dept., Northport HS, 154 Laurel Hill Road, Northport NY 11768 [email protected]

Brother Nigel, Science Dept., Kellenberg MHS, 1400 Glenn Curtiss Blvd, Uniondale, NY 11553 [email protected]

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:52 pm
by BroNi
Field with a week and a half to go....

Charter School of Wilmington, DE (5 teams)
White Plains (5)
Half Hollow Hills W (4)
Stuyvesant (4)
North Shore (3)
Friends Academy (2)
Smithtown East (2)
Smithtown West (2)
Ranney School, NJ (2)
Port Jefferson (2)
O'Connell (1)

32 teams from 11 schools.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:46 pm
by Byko
What time do you need moderators to show up at the school? My wife and I have already made the hotel reservations for the weekend--we'll look forward to seeing you!

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:27 am
by BroNi
David

Please email me off the board at [email protected]. Thank you.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:04 pm
by BroNi
Field Update

Charter Schl Wilmington (DE) (7 teams)
White Plains (5)
Stuyvesant (4)
Half Hollow Hills West (4)
North Shore (3)
Ranney School (NJ) (2)
Friends Academy (2)
St. Anthony's (2)
Port Jefferson (2)
Smithtown West (2)
Smithtown East (2)
Our Lady of Mercy Acad (1)
Hunter College HS (1)
Mineola (1)
O'Connell (1)
Seton Hall (NJ) (1+)
Gonzaga (DC) (1)
St. Andrew's Epis (MS) (1)

Still waiting to verify:
Mansfield (CT)
Ward Melville
Bergen County (NJ)

Results

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:06 pm
by BroNi
50 teams from 22 schools made it out to Northport HS, Long Island, NY on a blustery rain-soaked morning. 7 prelim. rounds lead to the top 16 in a single-elim playoff.

Round of 16
1 Charter B (420) beat 16 Charter D (110)
2 Stuyvesant A (425) beat 15 Half Hollow Hills W B (110)
3 Gonzaga A (405) beat 14 Stuyvesant C (65)
4 Stuyvesant B (320) beat 13 Bergan Ct. A (200)
5 Seton Hall A (285) beat 12 White Plains A (90)
6 Hunter A (290) beat 11 Bergan Ct. B (150)
7 St. Andrew's Epis A (310) beat 10 Charter A (135)
9 Mansfield A (340) beat 8 Half Hollow Hills W A (255)

Quarter Finals
9 Mansfield A (375) beat 1 Charter B (305)
2 Stuyvesant A (445) beat 7 St. Andrew's A (60)
3 Gonzaga A (395) beat 6 Hunter A (95)
4 Stuyvesant B (275) beat 5 Seton Hall (220)

Semifinals
9 Mansfield A (295) beat 4 Stuyvesant B (255)
3 Gonzaga A (395) beat 2 Stuyvesant A (180)

Third place match
2 Stuyvesant A (370) beat 4 Stuyvesant B (235)

CHAMPIONSHIP
3 Gonzaga A (385) beat 9 Mansfield (270)

Top individuals in the Prelims were Guy T. from Hunter A with 95.0 PPG, Anna H. from St. Andrew's A (MS) with 88.57, Henry G. from Charter B with 78.57, Doug T. from Stuyvesant A with 78.33, Aidem B. from Stuyvesant B with 74.17 and Ted G. from Gonzaga A with 70.83.

And a Halloween mask was awarded to Watson L. from Bergan Cty Acad for his tournament leading 14 "neg's"!

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:01 pm
by Sir Thopas
And congrats to Wilmington Charter for switching up their teams, so that B was better than A and D was better than C. Real nice "strategy" you got there.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:05 pm
by Matt Weiner
metsfan001 wrote:And congrats to Wilmington Charter for switching up their teams, so that B was better than A and D was better than C. Real nice "strategy" you got there.
"The rule on calling people out on behavior at high school tournaments is: don't do it before talking to your coach, don't do it before talking to the TD, don't do it before attempting to resolve the situation elsewhere, don't do it from a new, unfamiliar, or anonymous account, don't do it if you do not have a long record of worthwile posts about more germane topics, and don't do it unless you are earnestly trying to start a discussion about how to deal with similar behavior in the future. In summary, calling people out for dramatic purposes is not permitted. "

This avenue of discussion is over. Please continue with the rest of the thread.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:18 pm
by Sir Thopas
Oh, sorry about that. I guess just delete all 3 of these, then. =/

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:09 am
by btressler
metsfan001 wrote:And congrats to Wilmington Charter for switching up their teams, so that B was better than A and D was better than C. Real nice "strategy" you got there.
Actually, I'd like to respond if I may.

Both C and D were 4-2 (I think), and I fully expected the group in C to do better. D had four sophomores and one freshman on it, three of which are new this year, and their 4-2 (and almost beating Gonzaga) was quite a surprise to us all.

A was seniors, B was juniors and a sophomore. Yes I was pretty sure that B was going to do better. The seniors really wanted their turn to be team "A" this year.

If this is going to be a lightning rod of contention, then I won't allow it. It's not intended to be disceptive, and in tournaments where they power match, it's irrelevant after the first round.

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:55 am
by Sir Thopas
Oh, in that case, I do apologize. I, as well as at least a few others, actually believed that there was some intentional switching going on. =/

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:34 am
by btressler
(Sorry if this belongs elsewhere)

We wanted to enter with the following team names:

The Charter Menace
Attack of the Charter
Revenge of the Charter
A New Charter
Charter Strikes Back
Return of the Charter
Charter Holiday Special

College tournaments (especially trash) permit this, but high school tournaments seem resistant. As long as I privately tell the TD which 2-3 teams are the best, is this OK or not? It would prevent controversies such as one that metsfan introduced.

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:52 am
by BroNi
stat 74 wrote

[A was seniors, B was juniors and a sophomore. Yes I was pretty sure that B was going to do better.[/quote]

And what an impressive job that B team did!! Yes, it was a NAQT "A" set, but they still had 2 games with 700 or more points and ended ranked first after the prelimis with a 7-0 record and a 600 PPG average!

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:27 pm
by Magister Ludi
Thanks to Brother Nigel and Northport for running an efficient tournament.

I was impressed with Stuyvesant. The game we played against them was much closer than the score would indicate. A couple of negs hurt them in the end. They were a very intense and very agressive team. They're very talented and should do very well on a national level.

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:36 pm
by Byko
Stat74 wrote:As long as I privately tell the TD which 2-3 teams are the best, is this OK or not? It would prevent controversies such as one that metsfan introduced.
As far as I'm concerned, I think that's fully appropriate, as it allows the TD to put the teams into preliminary brackets accordingly. Power-matching as the tournament goes along is a laudable concept and practice, but frankly, it is not something that I think can be done easily by every tournament director.

Many thanks and congratulations to Brother Nigel and Mary for collaborating to put together a very good tournament. This was our first foray up to New York to see the local teams, and there are several very strong teams in the area that may not be known outside of the region. I was very impressed with both the quality of the teams as well as that of the tournament itself, which ended on time despite the weather throwing a 45-minute starting delay.

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:35 pm
by fender_outta_hock
Hey, as a new poster and a member of the Mansfield A team, I really want to thank everyone from Northport/Kellenberg for running an excellent tournament. It was my first tournament and I had a great deal of fun, and was quite impressed with the job done by all parties involved at putting it together, and I hope to play some of the teams from that tournament again, because it was a lot of fun to meet you all and just a great experience for me. Thank you all, it was quite a lot of fun.