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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:31 pm
by AndyShootsAndyScores
Are there any other big teams coming from somewhere other than North Alabama? The only non-Northern teams who I've seen so far this year with the possibility of making top 4 are LAMP, ASFA, and maybe Austin. I guess it's it's also a good time to get everyone's top 4 predictions.
BMHS, ISS, LAMP, and Grissom will definitely be top 4 this year. ASFA could make an upset, and Patrick from Austin played very well at NAQT today (averaging 100+ PPG), so he and his team could make some noise, but I don't see either of them breaking into the top 4. Muscle Shoals has also been said to be good, but the one time we played them at Arab, we won by a considerable margin, so I'm gonna put them in top 8 too. Here are my predictions:
1st-4th (no order) - LAMP, ISS, BMHS, and Grissom
5th-8th (no order) - ASFA, Muscle Shoals, Austin, and Covenant Christian
Thoughts?
FrEdit: Watch the discussion of NAQT questions. Thanks!
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:43 am
by quizbowllee
Andy,
Edit out your first sentence from the previous post. You can't discuss NAQT questions yet. You know that...
Also, if your talking about predictions for ASCA state, you mentioned a lot of teams who didn't qualify.
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:08 pm
by AndyShootsAndyScores
quizbowllee wrote:Also, if your talking about predictions for ASCA state, you mentioned a lot of teams who didn't qualify.
When are the Regional Winners getting put on the ASCA site? Once that happens, I'll revise my picks.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:49 am
by quizbowllee
AndyBrindlee Mountain wrote:quizbowllee wrote:Also, if your talking about predictions for ASCA state, you mentioned a lot of teams who didn't qualify.
When are the Regional Winners getting put on the ASCA site? Once that happens, I'll revise my picks.
It is done:
Austin High School
Bob Jones High School
Brindlee Mountain High School
Grissom High School
Baker High School
LAMP High School
Murphy High School
St. Paul's Episcopal School
Briarwood Christian School
Hoover High School
Indian Springs School
Vestavia Hills High School
Brookwood High School
Holy Spirit Catholic School
Muscle Shoals High School
Russellville High School
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:51 pm
by DVader
DVader wrote:
My random picks for the teams making state, based entirely on past impressions and the little snippets of info from this forum:
Bob Jones
Brindlee
Buckhorn
Grissom
LAMP
St. Paul's
Baker
Springwood
ASFA
Hoover
Indian Springs
Southside
Russellville
Muscle Shoals
Florence
Holy Spirit
At least I got 11/16 correct. That's a slightly better percentage than my NCAA bracket. And too bad ASFA didn't make it.
Snead
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:41 pm
by Cooper98
Who all is going to snead state on friday?
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:42 pm
by AndyShootsAndyScores
Brindlee Mounain is going and I think we're taking two teams.
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:02 pm
by Matthew D
We will have the 1 team but I am bring all the members of the team and Andy no one is getting to take two teams to Snead...
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:57 pm
by quizbowllee
Matthew D wrote:We will have the 1 team but I am bring all the members of the team and Andy no one is getting to take two teams to Snead...
It absolutely baffles me how little Andy knows about what is going on...
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:57 am
by Matthew D
LOL.. there is some other team that thought they were bringing two teams also...
Practice
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:47 pm
by Cooper98
Hey andy and/or coach henry ive played agianst yall for several years (losing most of the time) and ive always wondered how often yall practice or how long yall typically practice on any given day during the week?
Re: Practice
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:41 pm
by AndyShootsAndyScores
Cooper98 wrote:Hey andy and/or coach henry ive played agianst yall for several years (losing most of the time) and ive always wondered how often yall practice or how long yall typically practice on any given day during the week?
Our practice schedule for this year has been this:
Monday - 3:45-5:00
Tuesday - 3:45-5:00
Wednesday: - 3:00-5:00
Thursday: - none
Friday: - 3:45-5:00
It has recently changed, however, to high school being everyday from 3 to 5 except for Friday.
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:43 pm
by Cooper98
wow i wish we took it as serious as yall do we practice once a week but we do have a class
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:14 pm
by quizbowllee
Results from 35th Annual Snead State Invitational:
1st - Brindlee Mountain
2nd - Russellville
Semi-Finalists: ASFA and Covenant Christian
Brindlee Mountain was #1 seed despite losing the first round of the tournament to ASFA. In the playoffs, Russellville defeated ASFA. Brindlee Mountain then beat Russellville 560-80 in the championship.
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:49 pm
by AndyShootsAndyScores
quizbowllee wrote:Results from 35th Annual Snead State Invitational:
1st - Brindlee Mountain
2nd - Russellville
Semi-Finalists: ASFA and Covenant Christian
Brindlee Mountain was #1 seed despite losing the first round of the tournament to ASFA. In the playoffs, Russellville defeated ASFA. Brindlee Mountain then beat Russellville 560-80 in the championship.
Finally, I get to correct Lee in public. Although you weren't there, Russellville played Buckhorn in their semifinals match, so Buckhorn, not ASFA, was the other semifinalist. Russellville did, however, play ASFA in the quarterfinals and beat them by about 100 points.
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:19 pm
by Golden Tiger 86
quizbowllee wrote:Results from 35th Annual Snead State Invitational:
1st - Brindlee Mountain
2nd - Russellville
Semi-Finalists: ASFA and Covenant Christian
Brindlee Mountain was #1 seed despite losing the first round of the tournament to ASFA. In the playoffs, Russellville defeated ASFA. Brindlee Mountain then beat Russellville 560-80 in the championship.
Good God!!!! Congrats, Lee...that's an old-school beatdown.
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:30 pm
by Cooper98
Andy, do you plan on doing quiz bowl in college somewhere once you graduate next year?
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:18 pm
by quizbowllee
AndyBrindlee Mountain wrote:quizbowllee wrote:Results from 35th Annual Snead State Invitational:
1st - Brindlee Mountain
2nd - Russellville
Semi-Finalists: ASFA and Covenant Christian
Brindlee Mountain was #1 seed despite losing the first round of the tournament to ASFA. In the playoffs, Russellville defeated ASFA. Brindlee Mountain then beat Russellville 560-80 in the championship.
Finally, I get to correct Lee in public. Although you weren't there, Russellville played Buckhorn in their semifinals match, so Buckhorn, not ASFA, was the other semifinalist. Russellville did, however, play ASFA in the quarterfinals and beat them by about 100 points.
I stand corrected.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:09 am
by AndyShootsAndyScores
Cooper98 wrote:Andy, do you plan on doing quiz bowl in college somewhere once you graduate next year?
Yeah, probably going to start at Snead first, though.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:25 pm
by Cooper98
ah good i will be there in the fall
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:45 pm
by AndyShootsAndyScores
Here the ASCA State results:
1st - Indian Springs
2nd - LAMP
3rd - BMHS
4th - Hoover
Individual results:
MVP - David from LAMP
2nd (tie) - John Illg from Bob Jones
2nd (tie) - Andy from BMHS
4th - Jenna Caldwell from ISS
5th - Charles from Grissom/player from Hoover (I'm not sure)
6th - Charles from Grissom/player from Hoover (I'm not sure)
ASCA has improved immensely since my freshman year. The 5-pointers were quick, buzzer races. The 10-pointers were slighty more pyramidal, and 15-pointers were NAQT-esque questions.
Also, is David from LAMP a senior, or will he be returning for another year?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:29 am
by NRLYAGODD
Out of curiosity, what were the standings after pool play? Which three teams from each pool and seed?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:58 am
by AndyShootsAndyScores
Hoover, BMHS, and Grissom came from the same pool, with Hoover getting the bye. ISS, LAMP, and Bob Jones from the other pool, ISS got the bye. Oh, and the other teams are in order, too.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:04 pm
by quizbowllee
It appears that LAMP has been taken off the stand-by list and is now officially in the NAQT HSNCT field. So, Alabama will be represented by Brindlee Mountain A, Brindlee Mountain B, LAMP, and Sand Rock.
It's too bad that Indian Springs didn't accept their automatic bid. It would have been interesting to see how they would do at nationals.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:39 pm
by Byko
quizbowllee wrote:It's too bad that Indian Springs didn't accept their automatic bid. It would have been interesting to see how they would do at nationals.
How come Indian Springs (presumably) isn't going anywhere? We'd certainly be interested in having them at PACE.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:48 pm
by quizbowllee
Byko wrote:quizbowllee wrote:It's too bad that Indian Springs didn't accept their automatic bid. It would have been interesting to see how they would do at nationals.
How come Indian Springs (presumably) isn't going anywhere? We'd certainly be interested in having them at PACE.
ASCA sends the state winner to Panasonic. They are planning to represent Alabama there. Also, this is their coach's last year. He is retiring next month and moving, so I guess he's not interested in going to a lot of tournaments this summer. Interestingly, he told me that Indian Springs will likely no longer have a team. That will definitely change Alabama quiz bowl. They have always been a powerhouse team.
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:18 am
by Byko
quizbowllee wrote:ASCA sends the state winner to Panasonic. They are planning to represent Alabama there. Also, this is their coach's last year. He is retiring next month and moving, so I guess he's not interested in going to a lot of tournaments this summer. Interestingly, he told me that Indian Springs will likely no longer have a team. That will definitely change Alabama quiz bowl. They have always been a powerhouse team.
Wow--I had thought that Alabama was still sending all-star teams to Panasonic. That's a change.
As for Indian Springs possibly not having a team next year, that would be a huge loss for the circuit as a whole. That's a program with a lot of history to it and a good school on its own merits. It's things like this that make me concerned about the future of quiz bowl.
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:29 am
by quizbowllee
Byko wrote:quizbowllee wrote:ASCA sends the state winner to Panasonic. They are planning to represent Alabama there. Also, this is their coach's last year. He is retiring next month and moving, so I guess he's not interested in going to a lot of tournaments this summer. Interestingly, he told me that Indian Springs will likely no longer have a team. That will definitely change Alabama quiz bowl. They have always been a powerhouse team.
Wow--I had thought that Alabama was still sending all-star teams to Panasonic. That's a change.
As for Indian Springs possibly not having a team next year, that would be a huge loss for the circuit as a whole. That's a program with a lot of history to it and a good school on its own merits. It's things like this that make me concerned about the future of quiz bowl.
Actually, Alabama has never sent an All-Star team. They always send the ASCA champions. I think that's a terrible mistake. But, no one asked me
.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:58 pm
by JBSprings
quizbowllee wrote:I think that's a terrible mistake. But, no one asked me
.
Really, IMHO, it's a much better idea to send the state champs to the Panasonic than an all-star team--the Panasonic's bizzare, and it requires a cohesive and balanced team, which you're highly unlikely to get in an all-star team.
Also, since the Panasonic's so bizzare, unless you prep for it you're liable not to get very far and spend most of your time hanging around Disney World, which is probably more fun with friends than with a bunch of folks you barely know.
Not that this's in any way inspired by the fact I certainly wouldn't have gone to Panasonic if it hadn't been for Evan and Alabama ;-)
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:13 am
by DumbJaques
the Panasonic's bizzare, and it requires a cohesive and balanced team, which you're highly unlikely to get in an all-star team.
Also, since the Panasonic's so bizzare, unless you prep for it you're liable not to get very far and spend most of your time hanging around Disney World, which is probably more fun with friends than with a bunch of folks you barely know.
Um. . . what? Are you actually familiar with the recent history of Panasonic's tournament? Even if you're not, I don't understand why an all-star team would be
less likely to be cohesive and balanced; if you could choose your players, you could structure the team however you wanted. In any event, the claim that a cohesive and balanced all-star team is "highly unlikely" has a counter-example in like the last 10 championship teams.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:43 am
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
And the top 3 from last year alone.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:55 am
by quizbowllee
DumbJaques wrote:the Panasonic's bizzare, and it requires a cohesive and balanced team, which you're highly unlikely to get in an all-star team.
Also, since the Panasonic's so bizzare, unless you prep for it you're liable not to get very far and spend most of your time hanging around Disney World, which is probably more fun with friends than with a bunch of folks you barely know.
Um. . . what? Are you actually familiar with the recent history of Panasonic's tournament? Even if you're not, I don't understand why an all-star team would be
less likely to be cohesive and balanced; if you could choose your players, you could structure the team however you wanted. In any event, the claim that a cohesive and balanced all-star team is "highly unlikely" has a counter-example in like the last 10 championship teams.
I think that James is assuming that the "All-Star" team would simply be the top scorers from the ASCA State Tournament. I can see where this would lead to a pretty weak team. The top players will often have a lot of the same knowledge. Also, I know from tournaments where I am allowed to bring more than one team that some team's #2 and #3 players are often better than other teams' best. However, when going strictly by PPG at one tournament, those players suffer from being on a true team. Some players who got "All-Star" status at ASCA State are from one-man teams.
Now, if Alabama decided to have some sort of tryout and send the BEST POSSIBLE group of "All-Stars" to Panasonic, as opposed to simply the top scorers at one tournament, then I guarantee Alabama would perform better than ever at Panasonic. But, Alabama isn't going to do that anytime soon. For now, we'll keep sending the ASCA winner.
Now... Had Brindlee Mountain won the ASCA title, I was probably going to make some people mad. I was going to request that we use the prize money - that has always gone towards attending Panasonic - to help pay for PACE and NAQT Nationals. I think that the state champion should be allowed to choose what to do with the money. I also think that a school team should compete in a national tournament against other school teams. If Alabama wants to continue to send a representative to Panasonic, then ASCA needs to get with the times and send the best possible team - one made up of of the best players that complement each other as much as possible.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:50 am
by Matthew D
Personally, I agree with you Lee.
I honestly think that when this policy was started Pansonic was about the only one around and we know how we are about changing things in Alabama...
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 2:28 pm
by quizbowllee
I think it is pretty obvious that Indian Springs, Brindlee Mountain, and LAMP were the top three in the state this year - by a long shot.
Unfortunately, LAMP and Brindlee Mountain really managed to dodge one another at most of the tournaments that we both attended. That one may be too close to call.
I know that ISS is losing their team next year - unless something has changed. Who will LAMP lose? David, are you a senior this year?
Brindlee Mountain loses no one. The whole team will be back for their Senior year.
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:28 pm
by DZ_LAMP
Indeed I am a senior this year and therefore will be leaving for a better place...not saying AL is a bad place.
Since I havent said anything as of yet about ASCA state, let me reminisce. First of all I want to congratulate ISS on their win and wish them all the luck at Panasonic. After we barely lost to them in the prelims, I thought that with David's (from ASFA) theory (about how a lose to an evenly matched team in the prelims would yield a win in the playoffs) on our side, we would be the champions. Unfortunately that did not hold true. Indian Springs played extremely well in the playoffs (like they have been doing all year) and beat us handily. I also want to congratulate Brindlee Mountain and Hoover and their 3rd and 4th place wins.
I agree with Lee in that it was a shame that Brindlee Mountain and LAMP did not compete head to head more this year. Perhaps we will meet some round at NAQT nationals.
Since ISS might no longer have a team and LAMP is losing 4 players off Varsity, the 2007-2008 season maybe the Year of the Brindlee Mountain. But dont get too complacent because I know for a fact that LAMP as well as many other schools have rising stars that are hungry for a taste of victory.
I have had a wonderful time these 4 years on the high school quiz bowl circuit, and I wish all the underclassmen the best of luck next year.
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:05 am
by quizbowllee
DZ_LAMP wrote:Indeed I am a senior this year and therefore will be leaving for a better place...not saying AL is a bad place.
Since I havent said anything as of yet about ASCA state, let me reminisce. First of all I want to congratulate ISS on their win and wish them all the luck at Panasonic. After we barely lost to them in the prelims, I thought that with David's (from ASFA) theory (about how a lose to an evenly matched team in the prelims would yield a win in the playoffs) on our side, we would be the champions. Unfortunately that did not hold true. Indian Springs played extremely well in the playoffs (like they have been doing all year) and beat us handily. I also want to congratulate Brindlee Mountain and Hoover and their 3rd and 4th place wins.
I agree with Lee in that it was a shame that Brindlee Mountain and LAMP did not compete head to head more this year. Perhaps we will meet some round at NAQT nationals.
Since ISS might no longer have a team and LAMP is losing 4 players off Varsity, the 2007-2008 season maybe the Year of the Brindlee Mountain. But dont get too complacent because I know for a fact that LAMP as well as many other schools have rising stars that are hungry for a taste of victory.
I have had a wonderful time these 4 years on the high school quiz bowl circuit, and I wish all the underclassmen the best of luck next year.
The odds of LAMP and BMHS playing each other at NAQT are pretty slim. But, it might happen.
Thanks for predicting us to win ASCA next year. I think we would be the logical choice for frontrunner right now. Hoover has got some strong under-classmen, but I'm hoping that my group will really buckle down when it hits them that it is their senior year and this is their last shot.
Good luck at Nationals. We're looking forward to it.
-Lee