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Okay... I'm still compiling all final tallies and results, but without counting individual game performances here are the records broken:

Average points per game (out of 1000)
Thomas Jefferson A (627 in prelims, and 684 in playoffs): Sam was out the first day, but this is the first time that we have observed a team actually increasing its PPG between Saturday and Sunday games.

Previous records (TJ A 2004 with 609 prelim, 531 in 2004 in playoffs).

Combined two-team score in a game (out of 1000)

Prelims: 875 (Gonzaga d. Richard Montgomery) in R3
Previous record 870 (TJ A vs. Okemos in 2004)
Close to records:
865 TJ B d. State College B (R3)
855 TJ A d. Centennial A (R2)
850 TJ A d. MW Gov School C (R3)
845 TJ A d. Brindlee Mountain (R4)

Playoffs: 935 (TJ A d. Mission San Jose) in R 11
930 (TJ A d. Solon in R9)
890 (Gonzaga d. Mission San Jose in R9)
885 (State College A d. Detroit Catholic Central in R9)
Previous record: 840 (Thomas Jefferson A d. Richard Mo A in 2004)

Most points (Winning Team) (out of 1000)
745 TJ A d. Brindlee Mountain A
725 Solon d. Brindlee Mountain B
720 TJ A d. Heritage B
720 TJ A d. Maggie Walker C
715 Mission San Jose d. Brindlee Mountain A
Previous record: 695 (TJ A d. "Cortland")

In playoffs:
765 TJ A d. Mission San Jose
745 TJ A d. Solon
730 TJ A d. Heritage
640 State College A d. Maggie Walker A
630 TJ A d. Brookwood A
Previous record: 630 TJ A d. DCC in 2004

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865 TJ B d. State College B (R3)
I dunno if you knew this or not, but that score is from 2004. I remember because that was the record for something like two rounds.
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I dunno if you knew this or not, but that score is from 2004. I remember because that was the record for something like two rounds.
No, Sollosi...that one was ours. Your game was a combined 860.
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More records

Most points (losing team) in a game
Prelims
Record (2004): 415 St John's v. Richard Montgomery R6
Second (2001): 405 Team Illinois v. State College A

Highest for 2005:
380 Maggie Walker B v. Gonzaga (435) R1
375 Richard Montgomery v. Gonzaga (500) R3
365 Fort Mill v. Maggie Walker B (405) R3
360 Mission San Jose v. Dorman (485) R5

Playoffs
430 Mission San Jose v. Gonzaga (460) R9
390 Maggie Walker A v. Richard Montgomery (445) R9
390 Detroit Catholic Central v. State College A (495) R9
385 Solon v. Mission San Jose (430) R12
Previous record: 375 State College A v. St. John's (435) in 2004
365 State College A v. TJ B (455) R12

Most bonus points earned in a game (620)
Prelims
425 TJ A v. Maggie Walker C R3
420 TJ A v. Heritage B R5
415 TJ A v. Brindlee Mountain A R4
410 Mission San Jose v. Brindlee Mountain A R3
405 Solon v. Brindlee Mountain B R5
390 TJ B v. Brookwood C R1
Previous record (2003) 390 TJ A v. Powell

Playoffs
465 TJ A v. Mission San Jose R11
435 TJ A v. Solon R9
400 TJ A v. Heritage A R10
Previous record (1998) 345 State College A v. Forest
335 TJ A v. Brookwood A R12
320 State College A v. MW Gov School A R11
300 TJ A v. Gonzaga R8

Most bonus points stolen in a game
No change in prelim records

Playoff records
120 Gonzaga lost to Brookwood A R11
Previous record (2002) 110 MW Gov School A l.t. Walter Johnson and (1999) 110 Walter Johnson d. State College B

So as mentioned before, it's not just TJ A's dominance in offense, but also the record-setting performances of all the other teams that resulted in practically all of the records being broken. I have yet to complete the stretch-round points scored, though I know they were broken in prelim rounds handily (180 with 7 powers I think is the TJ record, but I have to be sure).
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In addition to the obvious strength of the teams at this year's NSC, there's clearly another reason why all of these records were broken: the questions. While I am in no way trying to take away from the tremendous accomplishments of the TJ A team and the other teams at PACE (kudos, all of you), I'd definitely have to say that the difference in difficulty between 2004 and 2005 was astonishing.

Let's take the science, for example. I can say honestly that, even having almost completed a science-intensive major (electrical engineering) and being at least a decent science player at the collegiate level, I still hadn't *heard* of several of the science answers in the 2004 PACE set...in my opinion, that's too hard.

The 2005 set, on the other hand, was a completely different story. I had heard of and had at least strong associative knowledge of every science answer in the set. Of course, that *might* have been because I wrote a larger chunk of the science questions for this year's set than for last year's, but hey, whatever :wink:

Having recently read through the majority of the 2005 set, I thought that the questions used this year were very well-written and edited, and much more appropriate for a high school tournament, especially relative to last year's version. Props go out to the editors.
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Thanks. And of course, we're always in need of good writers and editors to make things easier for us to create a fair set of questions. hint hint hint... :)

I am still trying to do analysis on the data from the tournament, and I am pretty sure that during games we had probably average points of 350+ per team per match. I have to check the median scores since TJ's performances do skew the averages up a lot, but we had been observing a very high efficiency in tossup and bonus conversion compared to past years.
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Not that everything is completely up, but I wanted to let you all know that I have updated HTML files of the stats online at the PACE website: http://www.pace-nsc.org/ including steal points. I have to add opportunities for steals if you wanted a metric for points per steal, but I don't think that is really as important for the moment as opposed to steal points possible. But I digress, as it is a limitation of SQBS 4 for now.
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