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Post by AKKOLADE » Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:23 pm

Hi there! I'm Fred Morlan. You may know me from such works as "Entirely Too Self-Pleased to Not Be Running the Forums Any More" and "Get Confident, Stupid!" I have a special opportunity I'd like to discuss with you.

Have you ever thought to yourself, "gee, self, I'd really like to see fairly accurate lists of high school quiz bowl teams ranked in terms of ability as a pleasing distraction on my path to the grave, but I really don't want to deal with typing all of these letters and periods"? Well, do I have the product to offer you! It's www.hsqbrank.com! It offers you all the fun of a barely formatted list of 50 high school teams, of which you may have actually seen two play, and throws in tons of time saved! If you're really in a hurry, you don't even need the "www." part! We've also thrown in the top 10 middle school teams, because in no way will that be a poor decision! And it won't even ruin a romantic cruise.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:35 pm

Hey all - I really don't mind being asked questions about how the rankings work, but I would prefer that it not really be cover for a question of "why did you mortally wound us by (choose one: "leaving us out of the rankings"/"ranking us so low, when low is like, I dunno, 28th or whatever"/"rank us below someone we beat once in a game")?"

It's October. You know what the rankings mean in October? Not a whole lot. If you get in them, it means you're at least a good team. If you don't, guess what? It's October. You may get in later. You may not. Last year I had over 2000 unique high schools ranked.

I'd really prefer if this thread or Twitter were where questions were posed. If you would rather make it private, you can email me at fred@hsqbrank.com.

Again, this is a hobby I pursue solely for the benefit of the game I love and so motivated young students can benefit from their hard work. I will make mistakes, and if you think I've made one, please let me know and I'll look at it when I can.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:44 pm

I've also edited the first post in this thread to give more information about the rankings which hopefully will answer some common questions I've seen.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:09 pm

There's a new set of rankings up.

I am currently unable to do a proper round of PR for this, but I'd like to remind everyone that you're more than welcome to do PR with this. Tell your principal, your board of education, your local newspaper, your school newspaper, any kind of booster group, etc.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:19 pm

Also I'm 99% sure I've never had a B team in the top 5 certain.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:53 pm

Next set of rankings won't be released until November 11 at the earliest.
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Post by High Dependency Unit » Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:04 pm

When will we get the first set of expanded (top 100) rankings?
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Post by AKKOLADE » Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:30 pm

When there's enough data on teams to make them ranking 100 worthwhile.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:25 am

Grams's Go-Go Boots wrote:When there's enough data on teams to make them ranking 100 worthwhile.
Which could potentially come with next week's update? Or maybe not. We're getting close, though.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:55 pm

So, because of a hilarious series of accidents (actually, just one big accident, by someone other than me), this is going to be delayed by a few days probably because I get bonus block testing. I'll try to get them up before Saturday, but regardless I think there'll be at least one update by, like, next Mondayish.
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Post by Al Hirt » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:56 pm

I don't have any stake in this, but this could be a blessing in terms of accuracy since LIFT occurs Saturday, giving some updated statistics for a slew of metro NYC teams that have a good shot of cracking Top 50/Top 100.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:41 pm

Ain't no one going to suffer if they don't make the rankings until December.
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Post by Lo, Marathon Ham! » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:26 pm

Just wondering...are the 2013-2013 stat adjustments the ones for this season? Because HFT (to me at least) seemed harder than IS but the ppb adjustment is -0.29 on that adjustment list.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:43 pm

Those are from last year. I'm currently using them for this year until I have enough IS set info to do adjustment calculations.
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Post by KnicksRule » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:53 pm

Ya, HFT was definitely harder than IS, maybe even full points harder.....
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Post by AKKOLADE » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:15 pm

Three notes:

1) We're now over 1000 stat lines!

2) Rankings will be expanded to 100 next time!

3) The rankings won't be out tonight at least!
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Post by High Dependency Unit » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:46 pm

Will they be out before or after this coming Saturday's results?
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Post by AKKOLADE » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:55 pm

I don't know, because I'm running a tournament this Saturday. If they come out before Saturday and I'm feeling feisty, there might be another update early next week. More likely, it won't be until the middle of December.
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Post by Corry » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:39 pm

2. Arcadia A (CA) (20) – 26.24, 25.14, 24.04
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Post by Lo, Marathon Ham! » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:44 pm

Grams's Go-Go Boots wrote:SURPRISE NEW RANKINGS
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Post by AKKOLADE » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:36 pm

Oh, teams that had been ranked off the preseason rankings are no longer ranked off those expectations but by actual performances (or lack thereof).
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Post by AKKOLADE » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:59 am

Next ranking will come on Wednesday.

I'm now up to 1160 unique team IDs in my stat file, and I'm waiting on a bunch of IHSSBCA Kickoffs. Last year I had a total of 2173 unique IDs.
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Post by Schmidt Sting Pain Index » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:37 pm

It appears you didn't include stats from Haverford's BISB mirror.

Thanks for the update though.
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Post by samus149 » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:03 pm

When will the stat corrections for BISB, JAMES, etc. be posted?
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Post by AKKOLADE » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:13 pm

I made a correction because some CA stats that I thought came from an IS set actually came from an A set. Apologies for the mistake; it's been corrected.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:14 pm

I've incorporated the Haverford stats as well.

I'll post adjustments in December once I update them again.
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Post by iLoveAnime » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:40 pm

Have you already begun to make the new adjustments for this year's sets?

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Post by AKKOLADE » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:05 am

Some, yes. New adjustments will be made before the next set of rankings.

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University of Kentucky Fall Championship (National)
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Post by i never see pigeons in wheeling » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:18 am

Grams's Go-Go Boots wrote: Beartolt Becht
Beartotl Brecht Memorial
Duplicate.

California Cup is a series of tournaments, and the individual tournaments in the California Cup series that were played so far are Beartolt Brecht Memorial and California Cup #2 (those are the names that should show up on the database).
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IHSSBCA Kickoff at Carbondale
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IHSSBCA Kickoff at Homewood-Flossmoor should be up late tonight or tomorrow.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:15 pm

I've fixed everything so far.
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Grams's Go-Go Boots wrote: Beartolt Becht
Beartotl Brecht Memorial
Duplicate.

California Cup is a series of tournaments, and the individual tournaments in the California Cup series that were played so far are Beartolt Brecht Memorial and California Cup #2 (those are the names that should show up on the database).
This was just a failure to state which one was varsity & which was JV.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:13 pm

I'll announce a bonus TOP ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY tomorrow once I get the post formatted. I'll only be sending letters to the top 100 off of it, because I have to draw the line somewhere. (I should note that I probably won't go to 150 again until the end of the season).

My plan is to send letters to the principals of the top 100 teams (I have to do a cut off somewhere). As noted in the other thread, if, for any reason, your team is in the top 100 and I shouldn't contact your principal, let me know by Sunday and I'll skip you. I'll try to send everything out Monday.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:54 pm

I've got this Q a couple times now: rankings won't incorporate this Saturday's results until the next update (around early January at the latest).
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Post by iLoveAnime » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:48 pm

Ugh, sorry about asking so many questions, but does "this Saturday" refer to 12/7 or 12/14?

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Post by Cold Stone Steve Austin » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:25 am

Also, you missed the BAAL Quizbowl Revolution that Shook Portugal and the BAAL Horace, which are at http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/1714 and http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/1938 respectively, but if you want to exclude the QRtSP, because we used like three different sets that tournament, that should be fine.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:52 am

Hidehiro Anto wrote:Also, you missed the BAAL Quizbowl Revolution that Shook Portugal and the BAAL Horace, which are at http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/1714 and http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/1938 respectively, but if you want to exclude the QRtSP, because we used like three different sets that tournament, that should be fine.
There's no way I'm touching QRtSP, but I've included Horace.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:28 am

Alright now fellas, what's cooler than ranking 100 teams?Ranking 150 teams!

Rank it, rank it, rank it, rank it like a person obsessed with determining the best Polaroid picture.
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Post by Beevor Feevor » Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:24 pm

Are the difficulty adjustments for this year posted at the moment?
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Post by AKKOLADE » Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:28 pm

Nope. I'm pretty much done with quiz bowl things for the day, but I will eventually do that.
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Re: HSQBRank 2013-2014: Witty Subtitle

Post by Lefty734 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:25 pm

Do you have a list of tournaments that are used for these rankings?
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Re: HSQBRank 2013-2014: Witty Subtitle

Post by AKKOLADE » Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:32 pm

Six posts up or so.
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Re: HSQBRank 2013-2014: Witty Subtitle

Post by AKKOLADE » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:19 pm

I just mailed letters to all the principals of the top 150 teams except for those whose ZIP codes start with a 0 (thanks, mail merge) or those who are outside of the U.S. border (I wanted to make sure that I had the addresses right, but I also had to run out to the mailperson before she left). The rest will be out tomorrow. I hope this helps some people out!
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Re: HSQBRank 2013-2014: Witty Subtitle

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Re: HSQBRank 2013-2014: Witty Subtitle

Post by AKKOLADE » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:47 pm

New rankings!

.... will be up on Sunday. If stats aren't up by whenever I get around to updating it, they won't be included until February.
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Re: HSQBRank 2013-2014: Witty Subtitle

Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:44 pm

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Re: HSQBRank 2013-2014: Witty Subtitle

Post by jonpin » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:09 am

Phenomenal. Is one of the links on the sidebar an updated list of adjustments?
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