2013 NSC: Congratulations, Ladue!

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Playoff stats: http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournament ... _playoffs/

There is one game missing from the posted version of the stats (Torrey Pines v. Wilmington Charter A); we are aware of this and have the scoresheet to re-enter before the final version of the stats goes up. With the result of that game taken into account, the superplayoff seeds are:

A1 Ladue
A2 Montgomery Blair
A3 Maggie Walker A
A4 Dorman B
A5 High Tech A
A6 Richard Montgomery A
B1 LASA A
B2 LASA B
B3 Thomas Jefferson A
B4 Robert E. Lee
B5 Hunter A
B6 IMSA A
C1 Paul M. Dorman A
C2 Loyola Academy
C3 DCC A
C4 Cistercian
C5 Raleigh Charter A
C6 Ridgewood
D1 Torrey Pines
D2 Carbondale
D3 Olmsted Falls
D4 DCC B
D5 Mountain Lakes
D6 Wilmington Charter A
E1 Northmont
E2 Stevenson A
E3 Auburn
E4 LASA C
E5 David H. Hickman A
E6 High Tech B
F1 Belvidere North
F2 Norcross
F3 DMHS
F4 Paul L. Dunbar A
F5 Detroit Country Day
F6 Oakland Mills
G1 Pikeville
G2 Richard Montgomery B
G3 St. Anselm's
G4 Sidney
G5 Hunter B
G6 W. Charter B
H1 High Tech C
H2 Metea Valley
H3 Centennial
H4 Gonzaga
H5 Raleigh Charter B
H6 Bergen County Academies
I1 Manheim Township
I2 Kellenberg
I3 Maggie Walker B
I4 Blacksburg
I5 IMSA B
I6 AMSA B
J1 Walnut Hills
J2 Dublin Scioto
J3 Summit North
J4 AMSA A
J5 Sharon
J6 Thomas Jefferson C
K1 Hanover
K2 Stevenson B
K3 Lisgar
K4 Norman
K5 David H. Hickman B
K6 Divine Child
L1 George Mason
L2 Harmony
L3 Bloomington
L4 Thomas Jefferson B
L5 Dunbar B
L6 Fort Osage

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One note on those stats: the bonus and bounceback numbers are all looped together, giving an overestimate of bonus conversion.
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Round 18 is underway. There is one round after this.

If LASA A wins out, everyone else will have two losses and there will be no first-place final.

Here are the final standings for Tiers II through IV.

19 Belvidere North 4-1
19 Northmont 4-1
21 Norcross 3-2
22 Torrey Pines 2-3
22 Stevenson A 2-3
24 Carbondale 0-5

25 Auburn 5-0
26 DMHS 4-1
27 Dunbar A 3-2
28 Olmsted Falls 1-4
28 LASA C 1-4
28 DCC B 1-4

31 Detroit Country Day 4-1
31 Oakland Mills 4-1
31 Hickman A 4-1
34 High Tech B 2-3
35 Wilmington Charter A 1-4
36 Mountain Lakes 0-5

37 Pikeville 5-0
38 Richard Montgomery A 3-2
38 Kellenberg 3-2
40 High Tech C 2-3
41 Metea Valley 1-4
41 Manheim Township 1-4

43 Maggie Walker B 4-1
43 Centennial 4-1
43 St. Anselm's 4-1
46 Gonzaga 2-3
47 Sidney 1-4
48 Blacksburg 0-5

49 Raleigh Charter B 4-1
50 IMSA B 3-2
50 Bergen 3-2
52 Wilmington Charter B 2-3
52 Hunter B 2-3
54 AMSA B 1-4

55 Walnut Hills 4-1
55 Hanover 4-1
57 George Mason 3-2
58 Dublin Scioto 2-3
59 Stevenson B 1-4
59 Harmony 1-4

61 Summit North 4-1
61 Lisgar 4-1
63 Bloomington 3-2
63 AMSA A 3-2
65 TJ B 1-4
66 Norman 0-5

67 Dunbar B 4-1
67 Sharon 4-1
69 TJ C 3-2
69 Hickman B 3-2
71 Divine Child 1-4
72 Fort Osage 0-5
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LASA-A and Ladue are 7-1 in the superplayoffs and will play a final in a short time.

The remainder of the top 18 standings and stats will be posted once the last tiebreaker comes in.
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A slightly delayed liveblog of the final will be kept here: http://hsquizbowl.org/blog/
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Ladue won the final, 460-360.
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Congratulations to Ladue and LASA A for their continued demonstration of Quizbowl excellence. In the meantime, without revealing what was intended to remain concealed, can anyone shed some light on the mysterious "Robert E. Lee" team? I believe it went 15-3 overall and won the 2nd Upper Tier by going undefeated against some pretty talented teams. And, they are all underclassmen on this team. So, can anyone shed some light on this obviously very talented squad?
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Edward Powers wrote:Congratulations to Ladue and LASA A for their continued demonstration of Quizbowl excellence. In the meantime, without revealing what was intended to remain concealed, can anyone shed some light on the mysterious "Robert E. Lee" team? I believe it went 15-3 overall and won the 2nd Upper Tier by going undefeated against some pretty talented teams. And, they are all underclassmen on this team. So, can anyone shed some light on this obviously very talented squad?
They are a team from the southern United States, playing this tournament under pseudonyms for various reasons.
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Edward Powers wrote:Congratulations to Ladue and LASA A for their continued demonstration of Quizbowl excellence. In the meantime, without revealing what was intended to remain concealed, can anyone shed some light on the mysterious "Robert E. Lee" team? I believe it went 15-3 overall and won the 2nd Upper Tier by going undefeated against some pretty talented teams. And, they are all underclassmen on this team. So, can anyone shed some light on this obviously very talented squad?
I was told they represent REDACTED. As I was not at the tournament, I cannot confirm this.

Perhaps there was a reason they were playing under a pseudonym! --mgmt.
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Maybe you should have messaged Mr. Powers with this info or been a person who actually knows this for sure before outing a team playing under a pseudonym on a public website?
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Thanks Charlie, and thanks to management for its quick protection of the anonymous players. I assume Jesse was only trying to be courteous, but I am pleased with the redaction since the "Robert E. Lee" players must have had reasons for the use of a pseudonym.
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intheshadowofgreatness wrote:
Edward Powers wrote:Congratulations to Ladue and LASA A for their continued demonstration of Quizbowl excellence. In the meantime, without revealing what was intended to remain concealed, can anyone shed some light on the mysterious "Robert E. Lee" team? I believe it went 15-3 overall and won the 2nd Upper Tier by going undefeated against some pretty talented teams. And, they are all underclassmen on this team. So, can anyone shed some light on this obviously very talented squad?
I was told they represent REDACTED. As I was not at the tournament, I cannot confirm this.

Perhaps there was a reason they were playing under a pseudonym! --mgmt.
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Thanks everyone! Congratulations to Ladue.

My apologies for some of the technical difficulties we had with audio and buzzers in the finals/All-Star game. I hope that otherwise teams had a great time and enjoyed the set.
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For those who are curious, a team of Raynor Kuang, Sid Dogra, Collin Parks, and Roger Cain defeated a team of myself, Morgan Venkus, "Carson Davis", and Madhav Kumar in a very entertaining all-star game.
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Golden-bellied Starfrontlet wrote:For those who are curious, a team of Raynor Kuang, Sid Dogra, Collin Parks, and Roger Cain defeated a team of myself, Morgan Venkus, "Carson Davis", and Madhav Kumar in a very entertaining all-star game.
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AlexLiu wrote:
Golden-bellied Starfrontlet wrote:For those who are curious, a team of Raynor Kuang, Sid Dogra, Collin Parks, and Roger Cain defeated a team of myself, Morgan Venkus, "Carson Davis", and Madhav Kumar in a very entertaining all-star game.
Max didn't play? Why not?
Ladue bounced the second finals were over to catch their flight.
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Golden-bellied Starfrontlet wrote:For those who are curious, a team of Raynor Kuang, Sid Dogra, Collin Parks, and Roger Cain defeated a team of myself, Morgan Venkus, "Carson Davis", and Madhav Kumar in a very entertaining all-star game.
In light of which, PACE will donate $400 to Amnesty International and $100 to the American Cancer Society. Thanks to the all-stars for playing!
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Do any recordings exist aside from that first 3:40 or so of the finals?


Huge thanks to PACE, especially Matt W. for a very well-run tournament, and Eric and everyone else involved with the great question set. Every staffer we experienced was either good or great, very helpful and professional, etc (especially one who we overheard keep his cool while getting totally unjustifiably chewed out by a coach -- not cool coach dude!). Thanks a ton all of you for giving up your weekends to put on this event; I wanted to thank more of you in person but we had to depart rapidly to catch our flight, sorry! Also huge props to LASA and every other team we played for some exciting, intense games -- congrats to all of you (also, damn, teams we played, you had some sick buzzes!) I'm looking forward to getting to play many of you again at NASAT!
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I have a high quality recording of the finals that I'll try to get posted tonight.
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A recording of the finals is available at http://www.doc-ent.com/qbc/PACENSC2013Finals.mp3.
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Stats are currently posted on the HSQB/DB at http://www.hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/1431/

Some issues we are aware of include incorrect bonus stats for the playoff stage, inconsistent accounting of bounceback statistics in the prelims, and the lack of a single "All Games" display. We'll do our best to fix as much of that as we can in the coming days.
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Is PACE disturbed by the number of teams that chose to forfeit games to leave this tournament early? If I understand correctly, at least three plaque-winning teams forfeited games, and ultimately placement. (Two of those teams forfeited half-packets at that.)
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We adhered to the announced schedule this year. We of course would like all teams to play their placement games and stay for the finals/all-star game/awards, but teams make their own decisions regarding their travel plans according to what's best for them. We are investigating some different scheduling options for next year, although we don't expect the overall end time for placement games to change much. As in the past, we'll be happy to announce a recommended earliest Sunday departure time once the location and format of the 2014 NSC are announced.
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Noah, who was the third team? Raleigh Charter informed me and Matt Weiner as we broke for lunch that they would have to depart after lunch and thus forfeit their last two superplayoff games. Those losses left them even in the standings with Ridgewood and Raleigh obviously forfeited the tiebreaker match. The only other forfeiture that was reported to me (statistician for the top tier control room) was IMSA declining to play the tiebreaker match with Cistercian for 11th place.
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Noah, who was the third team? Raleigh Charter informed me and Matt Weiner as we broke for lunch that they would have to depart after lunch and thus forfeit their last two superplayoff games. Those losses left them even in the standings with Ridgewood and Raleigh obviously forfeited the tiebreaker match. The only other forfeiture that was reported to me (statistician for the top tier control room) was IMSA declining to play the tiebreaker match with Cistercian for 11th place.
High Tech had to leave early; I'm not sure if we ended up forfeiting a match though.
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High Tech was not in a tie. The other tiebreakers (Dorman/DCC; TJ/Blair/MW) have scores, so I believe they happened.
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I personally apologize for the fact that this was not finished and posted prior to right now, but I have fixed the bounceback discrepancies and posted the entire combined statistics for the tournament, with order of finish, on the HSQB/DB. The W-L records and stats at that link are reflective of all round-robin games from all three stages, plus the one-game final and (wins, losses, and points only) the placement tiebreakers. If you notice any glaring errors, please contact me by email or forum message and I will try to fix it.
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