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New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:57 pm
by jonah
The 2011 New Trier Varsity tournament: ELEGANT (Enlightening, Lively, Educational Games At New Trier) will take place on December 17 on the GSAC set, written and edited by the quizbowl team at the Maggie L. Walker Governor's School for Government and International Studies (Richmond, Virginia). More information about the set is available here. Teams from out of state are welcomed: we typically attract a very strong field. In the past we have had teams from Ohio, Michigan, and Indiana.

Registration/Contact. Contact <[email protected]> to register, apply to moderate or otherwise staff, or for anything else. (This address directs to both me and my co-TD, former New Trier coach David Reinstein. We can be individually contacted at <[email protected]> and <[email protected]>, but please use <[email protected]> for anything tournament-related.)

Tournament Format. We will have two divisions, designated Über-Competitive and Standard. Teams choose which division they enter into, although we reserve the right to deny a team's request to enter the Standard division. The Über-Competitive division will be limited to 24 teams and will (assuming we hit 24 teams) consist of four brackets of six teams each, rebracketed into the same, and followed by ACF-style finals. The Standard division will attempt to accommodate as many teams as desire to enter, and will probably be based on bracketed round robins. Programs may enter (for example) an A team in the Über-Competitive division and a B team in the Standard division. When you email [email protected] to register, please indicate which division you wish to enter.

Rules. We will use ACF rules except that teams of five are permitted (per Illinois norms), and correspondingly, rosters are capped at 7 per team. We may or may not use powers.

Fees. $75 per team; teams traveling long distances or who are in financial hardship should inquire for a discount. Illinois teams are expected to bring functional buzzer systems able to accommodate five players on each of two sides unless otherwise arranged. Staff discounts are arranged by having your staffer apply to be a staffer as above; we can credit the $40 to your entry fee if you want.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:13 pm
by Eric Huff
We are tentatively "expressing interest" in this.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:09 am
by jonah
Current Field
Über-Competitive Division (24): Auburn A, Auburn B, Belvidere North A, Buffalo Grove A, Carbondale, Centennial, Culver A, Detroit Catholic Central, Dorman, IMSA A, IMSA B, Latin, Libertyville, Loyola A, Loyola B, New Trier, Northmont, Seven Lakes, Springfield, Stevenson A, Stevenson B, Wauconda A, Wheaton North A, Wheaton Warrenville South A

Über-Competitive Division Waitlist:

Standard Division (30): Auburn C, Barrington, Belvidere North B, Belvidere North C, Buffalo Grove B, Classical Consortium Academy, Crete-Monee A, Crete-Monee B, Culver B, Fenton, Fenwick, Lisle, Loyola C, Maine South A, Maine South B, Marian Central Catholic, McHenry, Niles West, Oak Park-River Forest, PORTA, St. Viator A, St. Viator B, St. Viator C, Stevenson C, UChicago Lab, Wauconda B, Wheaton Academy, Wheaton North B, Wheaton North C, Wheaton Warrenville South B

Standard Division Waitlist:

Expressed Interest:

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:52 am
by djones
Northmont will be there again this year- you can put us in the Uber-competitive division.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:26 pm
by Wackford Squeers
Carbondale will be there in most foreseeable circumstances.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:01 pm
by The Dance of Sorrow
Put Belvidere North down as "expressing interest," this is one of the tournaments a few of my teammates and I are really interested in going to, but we need to set things up with our Coach before we know for sure if we're coming.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:02 pm
by mr_basque
Belvidere North would certainly like to attend. Not sure about a couple things, the fee (budget cuts) and the timing (weekend before finals). You can put us down for 2 teams and we will work out the rest.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:15 pm
by jonah
mr_basque wrote:Belvidere North would certainly like to attend. Not sure about a couple things, the fee (budget cuts) and the timing (weekend before finals). You can put us down for 2 teams and we will work out the rest.
I'm going to make the guess that you mean one in each division; please let me know if this isn't right. Also, please email me ASAP with a cell phone number to reach you on the day of the tournament in case of emergency. Thanks!

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:45 pm
by jonah
Seven Lakes has joined the field in the Über-Competitive Division.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:22 pm
by Dominator
You can go ahead and put IMSA down for two teams. You can choose in which division to put IMSA B. (I'll send a more official registration email later.)

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:01 pm
by jonah
Dominator wrote:You can go ahead and put IMSA down for two teams. You can choose in which division to put IMSA B. (I'll send a more official registration email later.)
Will do. I'm putting IMSA B in Standard for now, but I reserve the right to change my mind based on what I see at tournaments between now and then, and of course you have the right to request a change as long as there's room available in the Über-Competitive Division.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:28 pm
by Eric Huff
Please move us from "Expressed Interest" to "Uber-Competitive Division".

Thanks!

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:13 pm
by mlaird
Loyola will have one team in the U-C division and two teams in the Standard division. We might decide to move up our B team at a later date.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:56 pm
by jonah
An official invitation letter and entry form are now available.

Actually filling out the entry form is not required as long as you email [email protected] with the necessary info. I have said necessary info from everyone listed in the field update except Belvidere North.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:58 pm
by The Dance of Sorrow
Belvidere North may not be attending since the tournament's the weekend before our Finals. I'd e-mail Mr. Basque about it.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:38 pm
by Coach G
Rockford Auburn would like to enter its A and B teams in the U-C division, and a C team in the Standard division. I don't know yet if we'll have enough for a D team, given that vacation starts that day.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:23 pm
by jonah
Coach G wrote:Rockford Auburn would like to enter its A and B teams in the U-C division, and a C team in the Standard division. I don't know yet if we'll have enough for a D team, given that vacation starts that day.
Excellent. Please keep me updated on the D team, and whether you can bring any staffers—we're always glad to have your alumni (or whoever else).

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:24 pm
by jonah
jonah wrote:whether you can bring any staffers
And on that note, we invite anyone interested in staffing to contact [email protected]. An email will be going out to our usual staffers sometime next week (?), but proactivity is welcome.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:59 am
by jonah
This tournament is platinum-certified by PACE, so the top 25% of the Über-Competitive division's field will qualify for the NSC on June 9–10 at Washington University in St. Louis. Furthermore, teams will be able to register early—as soon as this tournament has concluded—and with a $75 discount.

Also, we have been approved by MSHSAA so that teams participating in MSHSAA Scholar Bowl may attend.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:54 pm
by garciaja
Centennial would like to go this year. Something about Uber-competitive makes me wary, but I suppose we'll put our names into that category.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:54 pm
by jonah
garciaja wrote:Centennial would like to go this year. Something about Uber-competitive makes me wary, but I suppose we'll put our names into that category.
Great! We're thrilled to have you. Please email me if you have any concerns about the Über-Competitive division or its appropriateness for your team.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:04 am
by dtaylor4
For teams coming from far away:

hotels.com has pretty good deals on hotels in the area.

The Chicago O'Hare Garden Hotel right now is $42/night (normally 84), has an airport shuttle, and is 4 blocks from the Blue Line El.
The Super 8 in Morton Grove is $47.
The Executive Plaza Hotel in Wheeling is $50 (normally $99), and looks sharp. The local restaurants are also pretty good, according to locals.
The Traveler's Inn in Niles is $49.

The site lists a number of others, but are not close to New Trier. The ones I listed are less than 10 miles from New Trier.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:54 am
by MissIrene
Wauconda is expressing interest, but I am waiting to hear from my AD. We will probably field an A and a B team.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:07 pm
by MissIrene
Okay, I have the go-ahead. I will bring Wauconda A for the competitive bracket, and B for the regular. Let me know what we need to register.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:30 pm
by jonah
Carbondale has officially registered.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:36 am
by Stained Diviner
Teams can register by using the links at this post.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:42 pm
by jonah
The Belvidere North issues have been worked out; they're coming. Other teams should come too.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:29 pm
by jonah
Several teams have registered in the past few days. Among these is Detroit Catholic Central, who represent our fifth state. We currently have 19 teams in the Über-Competitive division, which is 5 short of the division's cap, so others interested should register soon.

We are very much in need of staff.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:13 pm
by jonah
jonah wrote:Several teams have registered in the past few days. Among these is Detroit Catholic Central, who represent our fifth state. We currently have 19 teams in the Über-Competitive division, which is 5 short of the division's cap, so others interested should register soon.
Now we have 21 (and six states; welcome, Culver!) in the Über-Competitive division, so there are 3 spots left.
jonah wrote:We are very much in need of staff.
Still this.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:33 pm
by jonah
We're excited for a strong southern presence at our tournament, which has been augmented with the addition of Chattahoochee to the field.

Loyola B has also moved to the Über-Competitive Division, putting it at 24 teams and closing its field. The Standard Division is still open, and I am happy to take a waitlist for the Über-Competitive Division. It is possible that some teams will wish to move down from the Über-Competitive to the Standard Division.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:58 pm
by the return of AHAN
jonah wrote:We're excited for a strong NATIONAL presence at our tournament, which has been augmented with the addition of Chattahoochee to the field.
Fixed your post.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:20 pm
by jonah
Stevenson had a slight hiccup in their timing. Stevenson A is too good for the Standard Division, but the Über-Competitive Division is full, so they are on the waitlist for that (second in line). Stevenson B is in for the Standard Division, and for the sake of clarity they will be labeled "Stevenson B" even if Stevenson A doesn't end up playing. Stevenson C may enter too.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:02 pm
by tinioril
IMSA B is listed in both divisions...

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:33 pm
by The Dance of Sorrow
It looks like some team dropped from Uber, allowing IMSA B to move up, and Jonah just forgot to remove them from Standard.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:37 pm
by jonah
King of Carrot Flowers wrote:It looks like some team dropped from Uber, allowing IMSA B to move up, and Jonah just forgot to remove them from Standard.
That.

Thanks for the correction; the field listing is now correct.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:33 pm
by jonah
The Über-Competitive Division's waitlist is now empty, as Barrington A will be missing some key players and has therefore moved down to the Standard Division, accommodating Stevenson A in the Über-Competitive Division.

We are currently over 24 teams in the Standard Division, so we're now hoping to get to 30. If we hit 30, there's a pretty good chance we'll close the field then.

We still really need staff.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:11 pm
by Irreligion in Bangladesh
Here is the current New Trier Varsity Uber-Competitive field, including their ranks in the current IHSSBCA Members Poll (state of IL only) and Fred Morlan (national) rankings.
Team Name: (IHSSBCA, Fred)
Auburn A: (2nd, 4th)
Auburn B: (28th, UR)
Belvidere North A: (7th, 41st)
Buffalo Grove A: (11th, 63rd)
Carbondale: (4th, 16th)
Centennial: (15th, UR)
Chattahoochee: (NA, 29th)
Culver A: (NA, UR)
Detroit Catholic Central: (NA, 8th)
Dorman: (NA, 5th)
IMSA A: (1st, 12th)
IMSA B: (12th, 22nd)
Latin: (6th, 33rd)
Libertyville: (24th, UR)
Loyola A: (3rd, 13th)
Loyola B: (19th, UR)
New Trier: (9th, 46th)
Northmont: (NA, 24th)
Seven Lakes: (NA, 6th)
Springfield: (14th, 87th)
Stevenson A: (5th, 59th)
Wauconda A: (20th, UR)
Wheaton North A: (16th, 95th)
Wheaton Warrenville South A (10th, 76th)

So, 13 of the top 15 teams (and all 18 are in the top 28) in Illinois, together with 5 non-IL teams nationally ranked in the top 30 nationally. All told, 18 of Fred's top 100 - including 8 of the top 25! - are here.

What I'm saying is--come moderate this tournament! I would pay to read for these teams**, and they're offering pizza and cash!

**don't let Jonah/Reinstein know that I said this

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:18 pm
by jonah
The UChicago Lab School has claimed the 30th spot in the Standard Division. Registrations are now closed and a waitlist will be maintained. I would love to expand to 36 teams in the Standard Division, but that will only be possible if I get more staff. So please, come and staff!

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:58 pm
by jonah
Sadly, Chattahoochee has had to drop. We therefore have one spot available in the Über-Competitive Division. If it is not otherwise filled, Stevenson B will take it, but if any other team wants it, it is theirs.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:41 am
by jonah
jonah wrote:Sadly, Chattahoochee has had to drop. We therefore have one spot available in the Über-Competitive Division. If it is not otherwise filled, Stevenson B will take it, but if any other team wants it, it is theirs.
That spot is still available, and there is also one opening in the Standard Division.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:04 am
by jonah
Barrington B is out; Belvidere North C is in. The upshot is that we still have one spot in the Standard Division available, plus one spot in your choice of division.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:59 pm
by jonah
One spot left. Whoever claims it gets to pick their division.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:32 pm
by jonah
jonah wrote:One spot left. Whoever claims it gets to pick their division.
Niles West claimed it, in the Standard Division. Stevenson B will play in the Über-Competitive Division. We can take a waitlist if anyone is interested.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:45 am
by the return of AHAN
BTW, have we reached the point where tournaments are all assumed to be starting at 9 AM? I can't find the start time in this post or the linked documents. :neutral:

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:22 pm
by jonah
Moving Day wrote:BTW, have we reached the point where tournaments are all assumed to be starting at 9 AM? I can't find the start time in this post or the linked documents. :neutral:
I sent out an email to all registered teams' representatives as listed on the registration form, which for Barrington is Rob Baker, with details. I'll forward it to you, but the immediate answer is that you should arrive at New Trier between 8 and 8:30.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:33 pm
by the return of AHAN
Ah. That explains it. I'll bug Rob for that e-mail.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:03 pm
by Edward Powers
I saw the Prelim stats for this great field on the Quizbowl Resource Database. Any update on the playoffs, even if it is only a brief narrative of the key results until final stats are up?

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:06 pm
by Charles Martel
Here's what I believe happened in the upper bracket:
IMSA A went 5-0
Auburn A went 3-2 with losses to IMSA and Dorman
Dorman A went 2-3 with wins against Auburn and Seven Lakes
Seven Lakes A went 2-3 with wins against Carbondale and Loyola
Loyola A went 2-3 with wins against Dorman and Carbondale
Carbondale went 1-4 with a win against Dorman

Not sure how ties were resolved.

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:07 pm
by Oh No You Didn't
viewtopic.php?f=49&t=12485
If you didn't check the liveblog thread there was a bit of stuff there

Re: New Trier Varsity: ELEGANT — 12/17/2011 (Winnetka, IL)

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:08 pm
by Dominator
Edward Powers wrote:I saw the Prelim stats for this great field on the Quizbowl Resource Database. Any update on the playoffs, even if it is only a brief narrative of the key results until final stats are up?
IMSA cleared the field. Auburn got second. When we left, Seven Lakes, Loyola, and Dorman were playing off for third (ranked in that order). Carbondale took sixth.

I am under the impression DCC won the second playoff bracket for 7th place, but I am in no way certain of that, and less certain of what happened below that.

Facebook tells me that Barrington won the Standard Division.