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PAveMEnT: A Remote Cooperation Audio Tournament (Winter 2020)

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I’m pleased to announce PAveMEnT (Popular Music Auditory Music Enthusiast Tournament): A Remote Cooperation Audio Tournament. PAveMEnT is an online music doubles tournament oriented around popular music, i.e. non-classical music. The tournament will be written by myself, Taylor Harvey, Wonyoung Jang, Victor Pavao, Isaac Renert, and Lea Wittman, to be played this winter - the first mirror will be held from December 7th to 18th. This tournament, like the recent audio tournament MARCATo, will be hosted by Qblitz and will be inspired by MARCATo’s format and execution. We are actively looking for additional writers, particularly for representation of “pop music” in earnest (i.e. Billboard Top 100, etc.). Please contact me ASAP via email (yflee at stanford.edu) or DM if you would like to collaborate with us to write this tournament. (We've rounded out the writing team. Thank you to Wonyoung, Victor, and Lea for being willing to help out!)

The exact format of the tournament will be decided by a poll. For context, this was MARCATo’s format:
ThisIsMyUsername wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 12:54 am The basic format of the tournament is as follows: Rounds are spread over multiple days, one round per day. On each game day, each two-person team is paired with an opposing team. Each player is sent a link to the 20 tossups for that round. Each tossup is constructed as it would be in Imaginary Landscape: one minute of (usually) six clips, arranged in pyramidal order. The playing mechanics are much as they are on Qblitz and Buzzword: the question is "read" to each player alone, they buzz, type in an answer, and the computer records where they buzzed and what answer they gave. The earliest buzz from each team counts as that team's buzz on the question. If both teams give the correct answer, only the earlier correct buzz earns points. Tossups are worth 10, and negs are worth -5. The higher-scoring team in each head-to-head is the wins that game.
(Additionally, if a team negs, then the other team gets the tossup if either player’s answer is correct. This way of handling negs was voted on via poll during the initial MARCATo mirror, and we intend to follow suit.)

Noah Prince from Qblitz has pointed out to me and my cowriters that Qblitz has the capacity to handle certain kinds of tournament formats that would not be possible in real life. For example, the second mirror of MARCATo used the first round to seed the teams into brackets by simulating a full round robin with all teams. Tournaments could, through this mechanism, play round robins within brackets in a single round. This, however, de-emphasizes (or, perhaps, renders inert) the ability to strategize while playing against a particular team with particular known strengths, which one could do effectively by utilizing buzzing data available to you through Qblitz.

Thus, we are leaving the format up to a poll, and have developed two options, which we will name A and B. Option A is to stick to the basic MARCATo format. Thus, we will play many rounds on consecutive days, with most (if not all) of the rounds being head-to-head matches against teams in brackets. The precise number of rounds in this scenario is dependent on player interest, though we are generally willing to write up to 12 packets of 20 tossups each. We will mirror this tournament again if interest remains.

Option B is more interesting. If option B wins, we will write twelve 20-tossup packets and run one tournament off of the first 6 packets, with each round being played on a Monday-Wednesday-Friday schedule for two weeks. We will run another tournament at least a month afterwards on the second 6 packets that we write on the same format: during that month, we plan to adjust question difficulty by rewriting questions and answerlines. We will, again, mirror either of these tournaments that we run again if interest remains.

If neither option A nor B seem satisfying to the field, we will run additional polls. People who strongly prefer a format other than A or B can include a description of their preferred format in the poll at the end of this post under the “Other…” option.


The above information is no longer up-to-date. See the latest post in this thread for information about how to register and vote on the final format of the tournament.

The entry fee per player (per tournament/mirror) will be $15, with a portion being donated to COVID relief charities. The distribution entirely consists of popular music genres. The average difficulty of the tournament is also intended to be somewhat easier than that of MARCATo - the range of expected difficulty will be college nats to open level questions. The tentative distribution is as follows (questions will primarily be within one genre and era, but license will be given to include cross-genre clues where need be):

2 pop music from 1950-1989
2 pop music from 1990-2020
1 soul, blues, pre-1960 rock
1 country, folk
2 jazz / Great American Songbook
1 electronic music / electronica / house music
3.5 rap, hip-hop, and R&B
1.5 rock from 1960-1979
1.5 rock from 1980-1999
1.5 rock from 2000-2020
3 extra or misc. tossups - these can span across genres and eras

(A special note here that the rock distribution will include metal music, and the extra/misc. distribution will include multimedia questions.)
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It occurs to me that this should probably be in the trash section; could a mod move the thread there? Thanks!
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Am I not understanding Option B? Is it literally just two different tournaments? Do the results of the first tournament result in seeding or placement for the second?
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Cheynem wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:35 pm Am I not understanding Option B? Is it literally just two different tournaments? Do the results of the first tournament result in seeding or placement for the second?
They're not intended to result in placement or seeding for the second. Does this strike you as odd or unreasonable?
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It's not unreasonable, but I guess I don't see the particular attraction--is the field and rosters exactly the same?
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Cheynem wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:09 pm It's not unreasonable, but I guess I don't see the particular attraction--is the field and rosters exactly the same?
No, the idea is that the field and rosters could be different between the tournaments, as well as the mirrors of the tournaments.
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Ah, okay, that makes more sense.
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The distribution has been updated to reflect an increase in "pop music" representation:
Ye Unfeeling Romeo wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:04 pm 2 pop music from 1950-1989
2 pop music from 1990-2020
1 soul, blues, folk, country, pre-1960 rock
3 jazz / Great American Songbook
1 electronic music / electronica / house music
3.5 rap, hip-hop, and R&B
1.5 rock from 1960-1979
1.5 rock from 1980-1999
1.5 rock from 2000-2020
3 extra or misc. tossups - these can span across genres and eras
Also, the following disclaimer has been added:
Ye Unfeeling Romeo wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:04 pm (questions will primarily be within one genre and era, but license will be given to include cross-genre clues where need be)
A reminder to keep those interest form submissions coming! We're excited for what is to come.
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The final distribution change, and an addendum to answer questions that have been asked privately to me about the distribution, are as follows (the distribution change reflects a decrease in jazz and an increase in soul, blues, pre-1960 rock, country, and folk):
Ye Unfeeling Romeo wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:04 pm 2 pop music from 1950-1989
2 pop music from 1990-2020
1 soul, blues, pre-1960 rock
1 country, folk
2 jazz / Great American Songbook
1 electronic music / electronica / house music
3.5 rap, hip-hop, and R&B
1.5 rock from 1960-1979
1.5 rock from 1980-1999
1.5 rock from 2000-2020
3 extra or misc. tossups - these can span across genres and eras

(A special note here that the rock distribution will include metal music, and the extra/misc. distribution will include multimedia questions.)
Also, the results of the poll for the date of the first mirror have come in. The first mirror will be held from December 7th to 18th.

The final format of the tournament will be, again, up to a vote from those who register for the tournament. The previous vote has demonstrated that people would, overwhelmingly, prefer option A, i.e. that the tournament be held on consecutive days and be mostly head-to-head. Many people in the community, however, have expressed to me privately that they would like to see the tournament be held entirely on Qblitz full field round-robin simulations, where every round consists of every team playing against every other team using Qblitz buzzing data. To that end, people who register can vote for option X or option Y. Option X is a hybrid format, where initial rounds will be full field round-robin simulations to seed teams into either prelim or playoff brackets, after which play will consist of head-to-head rounds - whoever wins the finals wins the tournament. Option Y is a Qblitz specific format, where every round simulates a full field round-robin, and the winner at the end of the tournament is the team with the highest win percentage. Note that option X necessitates a field cap, since it cannot accommodate fields with arbitrary numbers of teams, whereas option Y can.

A team formation spreadsheet can be found here. To register your team, please fill out this form and pay your two $15 registration fees via either Venmo (@youngflee99), Paypal (youngflee99 at gmail.com), or an alternate method that can be arranged (please contact me via yflee at stanford.edu or via DMs on this forum). Your registration is NOT complete until your team has filled out this form and you both have paid your registration fee.

Thank you all for your interest and attention!
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Can there be like a team formation sheet? I'm kind of interested in playing, but I don't want to register until I have a partner secured.
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Cheynem wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:01 pm Can there be like a team formation sheet? I'm kind of interested in playing, but I don't want to register until I have a partner secured.
Sorry about that - just fixed this, look above for a team formation sheet! :)
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Hello all!

Due to extenuating circumstances, Young has had to step back in terms of their involvement with PAveMEnT and I’ve now taken the reins as the head editor of this set. The writing team would like to thank Young for all of their work into organizing this set.

It seems that a reasonable majority of the field is interested in having a competitive tournament structure similar to MARCATo, so we’re going to be setting a field cap of 36 teams for this event. For anyone who’s forgotten to sign up, the current field registration/team formation sheet is here.

For those who have missed out on signups, we hope to have a second mirror in the near future.

Victor Pavao and I will be handling payments from American and Canadian participants respectively, so if you are:

American: Please send your payments to Victor’s Venmo @vcpavao (we will be posting PayPal information ASAP)

Canadian: Please send your payments to my Interac e-Transfer [email protected]. My PayPal, for those who prefer, is ircooli[email protected]. Payment is still $15 USD or $20 CAD.

The payment deadline is Tuesday, November 24th.

We’re looking forward to seeing you all there!
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