Caught in difficulty limbo
Caught in difficulty limbo
So I'm trying to gauge what question types I'm best suited for and have been trying just a couple and I've run into an issue. PACE questions are pretty lengthy and much harder for me to string together several correct answers in a row, but SCOP Novice questions are, while decent quality, incredibly easy, with some being immediate giveaways 4 words into the power. I was wondering if there was an intermediary question set(s) that will provide more challenge and give me a sense of how/what to practice to move up to PACE without breezing through out getting stumped by every question.
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Re: Caught in difficulty limbo
If you have some money to purchase IS sets from NAQT for practice, those would be best. Or for a free option, the VHSL sets should also be good. And you are correct that you are looking at two ends of the difficulty spectrum with SCOP and PACE,
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Re: Caught in difficulty limbo
You're in luck! Pretty much high school set is between those two sets in terms of difficulty. Here are a lot of free sets.
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In particular, the WHAQ and LIST sets are of approximately normal high school difficulty. Here is a list of the difficulty of high school sets from this year (a higher number means the set is more difficult).
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I like this a lot because it's great for comparison, but based on the information given on the site, wouldn't LIST and WHAQ be of lower difficulty (.04 and -.38) or are the HSNCT questions (4.67) just a much higher difficulty?Granny Soberer wrote:In particular, the WHAQ and LIST sets are of approximately normal high school difficulty. Here is a list of the difficulty of high school sets from this year (a higher number means the set is more difficult).
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HSNCT is high school nationals, so yes, they are a degree of difficulty higher. LIST, WHAQ, and other sets close to zero are the best approximations of "regular difficulty" that you'd play throughout the year.tksaleija wrote:I like this a lot because it's great for comparison, but based on the information given on the site, wouldn't LIST and WHAQ be of lower difficulty (.04 and -.38) or are the HSNCT questions (4.67) just a much higher difficulty?Granny Soberer wrote:In particular, the WHAQ and LIST sets are of approximately normal high school difficulty. Here is a list of the difficulty of high school sets from this year (a higher number means the set is more difficult).
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Alright, thank you for the clarification :)gettysburg11 wrote:HSNCT is high school nationals, so yes, they are a degree of difficulty higher. LIST, WHAQ, and other sets close to zero are the best approximations of "regular difficulty" that you'd play throughout the year.tksaleija wrote:I like this a lot because it's great for comparison, but based on the information given on the site, wouldn't LIST and WHAQ be of lower difficulty (.04 and -.38) or are the HSNCT questions (4.67) just a much higher difficulty?Granny Soberer wrote:In particular, the WHAQ and LIST sets are of approximately normal high school difficulty. Here is a list of the difficulty of high school sets from this year (a higher number means the set is more difficult).
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Re: Caught in difficulty limbo
On that scale, NAQT IS sets are 0.
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Prison bowl is also not as hard as nats-level material but is reasonably well written and readily available.
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Any idea where I can find more LIST packets? There's only one (1) on the packets database.
EDIT: WHAQ packets too. I don't think I saw any in the hsqb database.
EDIT: WHAQ packets too. I don't think I saw any in the hsqb database.
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LIST 2017: http://www.quizbowlpackets.com/1978/tksaleija wrote:Any idea where I can find more LIST packets? There's only one (1) on the packets database.
EDIT: WHAQ packets too. I don't think I saw any in the hsqb database.
LIST 2014: http://www.quizbowlpackets.com/592/
LIST 2013: http://www.quizbowlpackets.com/591/
LIST 2012: http://www.quizbowlpackets.com/58/
LIST 2011: http://www.quizbowlpackets.com/171/
WHAQ: http://www.quizbowlpackets.com/1850/
All of them are also on the http://www.quizbowlpackets.com link that David Reinstein posted earlier so you don't have to specifically save these links.
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Re: Caught in difficulty limbo
Thanks, I guess I'm just way too blind and/or lazy to have caught those. Yikes. I'll definitely use these though :)gettysburg11 wrote:LIST 2017: http://www.quizbowlpackets.com/1978/tksaleija wrote:Any idea where I can find more LIST packets? There's only one (1) on the packets database.
EDIT: WHAQ packets too. I don't think I saw any in the hsqb database.
LIST 2014: http://www.quizbowlpackets.com/592/
LIST 2013: http://www.quizbowlpackets.com/591/
LIST 2012: http://www.quizbowlpackets.com/58/
LIST 2011: http://www.quizbowlpackets.com/171/
WHAQ: http://www.quizbowlpackets.com/1850/
All of them are also on the http://www.quizbowlpackets.com link that David Reinstein posted earlier so you don't have to specifically save these links.
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Re: Caught in difficulty limbo
You're very ambitious, but cut yourself a break. PACE is pretty tough, even for the best players.
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Re: Caught in difficulty limbo
As an extension to this post, what college packets would be the best to practice for teams trying to get good at PACE/HSNCT level? The answerlines in ACF Regs and MUT seem a bit too obscure (especially towards the end) while ACF Fall seems a bit easier than HS nationals...
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Re: Caught in difficulty limbo
MUT and EMT are probably your best bet, then ACF Regs and other college regular sets.Shomik Ghose wrote:As an extension to this post, what college packets would be the best to practice for teams trying to get good at PACE/HSNCT level? The answerlines in ACF Regs and MUT seem a bit too obscure (especially towards the end) while ACF Fall seems a bit easier than HS nationals...
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