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Charlie's got a good point about the opera/operetta answer line versus symphonies answer line. I liked seeing Sousa come up, just like it's fun when Joplin comes up in a okay-he-has-stuff-other-than-rags sense, and I thought that if the answer line had just been Sousa with clues almost solely based ...

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First, there was very justified misunderstanding about the number of rounds. I believe the original post stated a goal of twelve rounds, and though I don't recall when it was altered to state a goal of fifteen rounds, the goal was always twelve rounds, and until I read this thread, I thought that w...

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This tournament was ok. I didn't find anything to be excited about in this set. As usual, there were some incredibly dubious answer choices, including a whole bunch of things that were either incredibly obvious from the start or were unanswerable by anyone until the end. The bonuses were pretty var...

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the time issue, which is the real problem here. I'd like to hear from Cameron and Tommy what method of organization they were using to ensure tossup completion. Tommy's comments to me (and Andy) made it seem like they weren't quite sure what they had left to write, assuming a lot of history when in...

Not That Kind of Christian!! · Re: VCU Open Music August 8, 2009 Can we have a field posted for this?

Can we have a field posted for this?

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Crazy Andy Watkins wrote: easier to process at game speed

This is my main problem with listing notes either by pitch or by rhythmic value. For most people, even those who read music fluently, parsing a list of notes will take time during which other clues are flying by.

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More seriously, what do the classical music junkies out there think of tossups on instruments? I think they're fun and a good alternate to the "this type of composition" common link. Is there any objection to including occasional jazz clues in such questions? I'll probably sit there stari...

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Andy, this is all very reasonable, but I think your 2nd paragraph exemplifies the problem that I'm having...what if say Hannah didn't know about this message board, and Charlie posts his anti-Ginastera post. Then maybe a third person posts a 2nd anti-Ginastera post. It now becomes "common know...

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grapesmoker wrote:I would be happy to contribute a packet to such an effort.

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Also, aw hell, I just cant resist - if you critique the "your woman" reference, you're being silly (I very much want to use another word here but I wont). Just keep making sure people dont say things that could be interpreted as inapposite with whatever worldview you think everyone should...

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Some of the modern music answer selections I also had problems with - Henry Cowell in particular was crazy, because I've never seen him performed in concert, and as far as I've ever known, the one thing he's really notable for is creating the prepared piano, which would never have become anything i...

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Wow, Charlie's right. I didn't really notice this at the time, but looking at the answer selections, that's ridiculous. A few other specific music complaints: One thing I do remember is that I had a huge, huge problem with the high Sibelius distribution. I think he or his works came up in three sepa...

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I have no idea what the Bohr-Infield theory, linear or otherwise is, because when I search for it, I get nothing. Is this supposed to be Born-Infeld theory? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born–Infeld_theory says yes. Can someone post the text of the Bridges of Konigsberg tossup, please? I'd also like...

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What's the word on science for this tournament? Is it a definite no?

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The last, sort of weird, thing that struck me is that there seems to be preference given to titled and nicknamed works over works that only have a number, key, and opus, maybe because there is an idea that a nickname makes them easier to remember. This may seem a bit of an odd claim, but I find no ...

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I had quite a lot of fun at this tournament; thank you to all involved. Just a few comments. This might also belong in the "writing music questions" thread, but I noticed a few music questions with the problems we've been harping on for awhile about non-unique clues or music theory clues t...

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Man, this is utterly formulaic. I've mentioned to a couple editors, in joking terms and more serious ones that this idea was one of the worst dreamed up in quizbowl. All this effort, and look, people, we knew what was going to happen. Two months ago, any reasonable person could have figured out, he...

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Actually, I wrote the Stabat Mater (well, rewrote) tossup. Did you re-rewrite it? I added the clues about Pergolesi's, since it's probably the most famous Stabat Mater, and a couple textual clues since liturgical music is kind of a specialty. Yeah, that was an improvement. I sort of ignored Pergole...

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I was responsible for the content of the Mendelssohn, For Whom the Bell Tolls, Stabat Mater, and Rose For Emily/Faulkner/Reivers questions. Actually, I wrote the Stabat Mater (well, rewrote) tossup. Did you re-rewrite it? Anyway, as one of the people who worked on this set (fine arts and biology, a...

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rylltraka wrote:I'm wondering how much pre-Renaissance painting there is to justify that subdistribution.

I agree. If it were overall art, 3/3 would be just fine, but with just painting... After all, how many questions can you ask about cave painting a la Lasceaux, Roman wall painting and Egyptian tomb painting?

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Andy Watkins and I are playing this tournament together.

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Times have changed, and I will in fact be here. If Sarah Angelo does not want to play on your team, Mike, I'm up for it. You can have your spot back, Hannah. I suppose I am now once again looking for a team... Well, since I just got an alternate offer in the space between re-signing up and reading ...

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I don't know where you get the idea that opera is a separate category from classical music. That sounds entirely crazy an in fact has never been "established" by any quizbowl convention anywhere. The ACF guidelines suggest 1/1 classical music excluding opera be submitted in every packet a...

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Times have changed, and I will in fact be here. If Sarah Angelo does not want to play on your team, Mike, I'm up for it.

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Happily, things worked out, and the two of us will be coming! False alarm...

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Ukonvasara wrote:
Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:Since it looks decreasingly likely that I will be able to attend VCU Open, I do not believe I will be able to play this tournament.

This is true for me as well.

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It is also decreasingly likely that I will be able to come to this, unfortunately. Apologies to Mike and Evan if that is the case.

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Even though I had heard of maybe two answers per packet and the questions were insanely long, I had a lot of fun playing this tournament (despite the lack of real music). If possible, I would like to see that one tossup on the carnival of the animals (one of like two tossups that I got). This might...

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Since I actually was familiar with maybe around 20% of the literature that came up at this tournament, I can't really comment specifically on many questions. I will say that the tossups that I got seemed to have clues that (to my knowledge) were relatively famous come up relatively early. I think A...

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Issues with the distribution aside (yes, it would have been nice to have a consistent distribution of Ragabia and consistent difficulty therein), I have a couple comments to make on question-writing style. 1. Some of the science tossups had material in them that was either completely nonspecific, co...

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Dan Passner, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think your crazy cheap hotel room at The Legacy in Rockville is, by a freak of miscommunication, still up for grabs. Andy and I booked a crazy cheap room in the same hotel assuming we'd have a ride because the Pinyan caravan would be staying there, ...

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Food isn't a huge deal for me. But are we inferring that a chipotle burrito is that much lighter thab 3-4 slices of a deep dish pizza? The idea of eating 3-4 slices of deep dish pizza is sickening. You're a lightweight, Rob Carson, and I personally find it pathetic. Please not to ban for my ad homi...

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millionwaves wrote:EDIT: I forgot to mention I'm bringing Coke, Diet Coke, Sprite, and bottled water with me, so that's not at issue here.

I approve of this Diet Coke thing in a huge way.

EDIT: When does the vote end, by the way?

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Aaron’s music theory comments are spot on, and I’d like to add that I dislike many music theory clues in general. I don’t necessarily mean clues like “oh, hey, there are these six sforzando dominant seventh chords in the first movement” or instrumentation clues like “there are these warring timpani....

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If this is done by the weekend before (or at least done in some substantial portion), we could run some kind of doubles thing at Maryland during Sun n Fun Weekend. Have you ever heard of a tournament finishing a week before schedule?! In all seriousness, I'll be doing my best to do as much as I can...

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Can you provide specifics for ACF-4? I guess I consider it somewhat easier is that lots of famous clues come somewhat earlier on in the questions than I feel they should. I should revise the statement completely easier to just somewhat easier, as I realize that the questions in Packet 1 are not com...

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At some point I must have neglected to clarify that Hannah will be playing with me and the Hunters, so we'll be Tabyetkirkins or something similarly awesome (OR PICK YOUR OWN BETTER NAME). I thought she was playing with me and Passner. What treachery is this? (In reality: whatever.) I was? goddammi...

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At some point I must have neglected to clarify that Hannah will be playing with me and the Hunters, so we'll be Tabyetkirkins or something similarly awesome (OR PICK YOUR OWN BETTER NAME). I thought she was playing with me and Passner. What treachery is this? (In reality: whatever.) I was? goddammit

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I guarantee that a female quizbowl player a) has a nontrivial total of female friends, and b) shares some part of her own academic interest with those friends. Therefore, I would say that that pool of friends is the likeliest group of candidates for joining. Yeah, that's not necessarily true at all...

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I'm around and would definitely be up for this.

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the world should conform to the needs of my computer program instead of the other way around because the world of reasonably intelligent quizbowlers doesn't need Word and my computer program sure as hell does not word is easy and I am lazy. convince me otherwise. Because http://profile.ak.facebook....

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Gimmicks should not prevent people from having fun at VETO. The problem is that people not attending the Vancouver site seem to want something that approximates "real quizbowl" and the people attending the Vancouver site seem to want something that approximates "gimmicky not-quizbowl...

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I'll also reiterate that I'm happy to help Jerry with fine arts, lit, and biology.

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Rob Carson, you are awesome for writing a TU on Dittersdorf. But he's more famous for writing a viola/bass concerto than a harp concerto IMO. This is what I've always known him for, and it's a pleasure to listen to. Also, Dittersdorf is pretty culturally significant, even though he's not exactly qu...

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If you manage to pull off a three-part bonus with a genuine easy, middle, and hard part that tested something important and academic that involved tasting something, then I will give you one hundred very real American dollars. Paging Susan... (note: I'm also not sure this can be done, but I'm incli...

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I will offer not to fully edit these packets, both because I don't have time and because I'm not capable of editing some of the more VETO-specific content, but I will be happy to look over the set and do what I can. Alternately, assign me fewer packets to edit more deeply. Are you at least eliminati...

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I mean, the Old Testament shows what many scholars consider clear signs of amalgamation with Elohim, the tetragrammaton, El Shaddai, and perhaps some others I'm forgetting. A bonus on Adon/ Melekh/ Eloheinu or something would make my day. People who are better at Jew than I am, correct me if this i...

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I'd like to play some of the side events, but I'll happily moderate social science and possibly others.

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This reminds me: In the semifinals, there was a comp math question asking for the interval over which a function is negative. Both teams (Dorman and State College) gave the answer [-3,-2], and both were counted wrong; the correct answer was said to be [-2,-3]. Could someone who knows more about math...

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I think one of the moderators (Andy & Hannah?) also made a comment about how Byron is hardly a "contemporary poet," though I think the question meant "poet contemporary to the works mentioned in parts 1 & 2. While unlikely, it's possible someone could get confused as to what ...

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