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naqt.com wrote:National Academic Quiz Tournaments, LLC is pleased to provide logistical information about its 22nd Intercollegiate Championship Tournament.

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April 13–14, 2018 (Friday/Saturday; the actual competition will take place entirely on Saturday)

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The Hyatt Regency O'Hare hotel in Rosemont, IL. This is the same hotel that hosted the 2017 ICT.
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naqt.com wrote:NAQT is pleased to announce that its 2018 Intercollegiate Championship Tournament will be presented by LetterOne, one of the world's pre-eminent investment firms. Thanks to LetterOne's support, NAQT will be expanding the Division I field to 36 teams.
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Awesome!
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Taken from Fred's post on the HSNCT announcement:

LetterOne is founded and headed by Mikhail Fridman. He also co-founded Alfa-Group, which includes Alfa-Bank. Alfa-Bank is accused of having covert communication with the Trump Organization prior to the 2016 Presidential election.
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nsb2 wrote:Taken from Fred's post on the HSNCT announcement:

LetterOne is founded and headed by Mikhail Fridman. He also co-founded Alfa-Group, which includes Alfa-Bank. Alfa-Bank is accused of having covert communication with the Trump Organization prior to the 2016 Presidential election.
These are allegations. Regardless of whether the allegations are true or not, turning a sponsorship with real tangible benefits for quizbowl away because of politically motivated demands seems like a pretty bad look, especially if those political stances aren't ones that everyone in the community is inclined to agree with.
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Periplus of the Erythraean Sea wrote:These are allegations. Regardless of whether the allegations are true or not, turning a sponsorship with real tangible benefits for quizbowl away because of politically motivated demands seems like a pretty bad look, especially if those political stances aren't ones that everyone in the community is inclined to agree with.
It's pretty tortured to portray "turning a sponsorship away" as "a bad look" given that turning away the offer -- at the first opportunity -- would have meant nobody at all hearing about it to begin with. "A bad look" is accepting it. Canceling it now would be no worse than acknowledgment of a mistake.

We have no information as to the supposed "tangible benefits" to quizbowl from this sponsorship. So far we know only that NAQT is publicly promoting LetterOne and there's a larger ICT field. Not even the mechanism linking the one to the other has been described so far.

I oughtn't to need to remind you that LetterOne/AlfaGroup head Mikhail Fridman is also on the Treasury Department list of Putin associates under consideration for sanction in relation to (known, not conjectured) human-rights violations and interference in the 2016 election.

This is not about domestic political allegiances. This is about good corporate citizenship, full stop. "Real tangible benefits for quizbowl", even if demonstrated, don't justify engagement with deleterious special or interests of any sort.

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Reminder that tomorrow (Tuesday, February 6) is the last day to submit a wildcard application for the 2018 ICT.

Please note that NAQT is only likely to accept distance-based wildcard requests from schools for which the nearest SCT site would require a full day of traveling in each direction (in addition to the day of playing the tournament).
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Important Bird Area wrote:Reminder that tomorrow (Tuesday, February 6) is the last day to submit a wildcard application for the 2018 ICT.

Please note that NAQT is only likely to accept distance-based wildcard requests from schools for which the nearest SCT site would require a full day of traveling in each direction (in addition to the day of playing the tournament).
For clarity: ICT wildcards are intended for teams who were unable to play the SCT (to cover scenarios such as "medical emergency" or "we are a British team who wants to play the ICT, but there is no SCT in our country"). Please do not submit an ICT wildcard bid that has the same roster as a team that just played SCT last weekend; we will evaluate teams who were actually able to play SCT based on their SCT results.
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I've posted a statement about our goals for the sponsorship in the other thread.
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Preliminary D-values for the 2018 ICT are now available: Division I, Division II

Please let us know ([email protected]) by tomorrow (Friday) evening if any corrections need to be made; we expect to announce invitations for the 2018 ICT Saturday morning.
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Invitations to the 2018 ICT
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Important Bird Area wrote:Invitations to the 2018 ICT
How did Yale get two D1 bids? Shouldn't Michigan B have been awarded a D1 Undergrad bid? Did UNC, Carleton, and RIT not want a hosting autobid?

Just curious.
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Edward Lansdale wrote:
Important Bird Area wrote:Invitations to the 2018 ICT
How did Yale get two D1 bids? Shouldn't Michigan B have been awarded a D1 Undergrad bid? Did UNC, Carleton, and RIT not want a hosting autobid?

Just curious.
Can't speak for the others, but Michigan B is first in line for the next bid to be awarded (the 20 D-value bids, plus hosting and editing autobids, are guaranteed; the site winner and UG winner bids are not). That is, we'll get a bid if anyone drops out as we're effectively 37th in line.
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Edward Lansdale wrote:
Important Bird Area wrote:Invitations to the 2018 ICT
How did Yale get two D1 bids? Shouldn't Michigan B have been awarded a D1 Undergrad bid? Did UNC, Carleton, and RIT not want a hosting autobid?

Just curious.

Also can't speak for the others, but we got a DI hosting auto-bid and a DI editing auto-bid (Jacob edited SCT).
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Edward Lansdale wrote:Did UNC, Carleton, and RIT not want a hosting autobid?
The Carleton and RIT sites did not have autobids (as they were able to staff their tournaments without calling on active players).

The SCT site at North Carolina fell short of our hosting requirements in several ways; as a result, we decided that this host did not earn an automatic bid to the 2018 ICT.
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Important Bird Area wrote:
Edward Lansdale wrote:Did UNC, Carleton, and RIT not want a hosting autobid?
The Carleton and RIT sites did not have autobids (as they were able to staff their tournaments without calling on active players).

The SCT site at North Carolina fell short of our hosting requirements in several ways; as a result, we decided that this host did not earn an automatic bid to the 2018 ICT.
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kitakule wrote:
Edward Lansdale wrote:
Important Bird Area wrote:Invitations to the 2018 ICT
How did Yale get two D1 bids? Shouldn't Michigan B have been awarded a D1 Undergrad bid? Did UNC, Carleton, and RIT not want a hosting autobid?

Just curious.
Also can't speak for the others, but we got a DI hosting auto-bid and a DI editing auto-bid (Jacob edited SCT).
Okay. Personally I think NAQT should combine hosting and editing autobids into one bid where possible, to allow more teams (e.g. Michigan B, who didn't get a bid because the field cap was reached) to qualify at the buzzer. I have no horse in the race as I'm not an active player or coach, it's just something I think should be given consideration.

Edit: To clarify, I meant the all-undergrad Michigan B that finished third at SCT at Youngstown State. I see an invitation for Michigan B, but I'm not sure why teams are being labeled with the D2 teams getting the A team and D1 getting B and so on.
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Edward Lansdale wrote:I see an invitation for Michigan B, but I'm not sure why teams are being labeled with the D2 teams getting the A team and D1 getting B and so on.
Where do you see this? This page lists Michigan A in Division I and Michigan B in Division II (which seems correct to me; we label teams in Division I first, then Division II, with consecutive letters).
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jonah wrote:
Edward Lansdale wrote:I see an invitation for Michigan B, but I'm not sure why teams are being labeled with the D2 teams getting the A team and D1 getting B and so on.
Where do you see this? This page lists Michigan A in Division I and Michigan B in Division II (which seems correct to me; we label teams in Division I first, then Division II, with consecutive letters).
On that page earlier today the Division II teams were labeled starting with A and DI teams were labeled starting with B if their school also had an invited team in the DII list (or C if the school had two invited DII teams). This is fixed now, but I can send a screenshot if you're curious.
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a bird wrote:
jonah wrote:
Edward Lansdale wrote:I see an invitation for Michigan B, but I'm not sure why teams are being labeled with the D2 teams getting the A team and D1 getting B and so on.
Where do you see this? This page lists Michigan A in Division I and Michigan B in Division II (which seems correct to me; we label teams in Division I first, then Division II, with consecutive letters).
On that page earlier today the Division II teams were labeled starting with A and DI teams were labeled starting with B if their school also had an invited team in the DII list (or C if the school had two invited DII teams). This is fixed now, but I can send a screenshot if you're curious.
Curious. A live example would be more useful; if you ever see something like that again, can you shoot me a message here or at [email protected]?
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Has the exact DI tournament format been determined?
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Not yet. We expect to announce a 36-team format in the near future.
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Here's the format for this year's ICT.
naqt.com wrote:In Division I, the 36-team field will be initially seeded into six equal preliminary pools of six teams. Each pool will play a round-robin (rounds 1–5). Teams will then be repooled into six new playoff pools of six teams. There will be two "top-tier" playoff pools, two "middle-tier," and two "bottom-tier." The top two teams from each preliminary pool will advance to the top-tier playoff pools (so that each top-tier playoff pool contains three preliminary-pool winners and three preliminary-pool runners up), numbers three and four advance to the second-tier pools, and so forth. Advancement will be determined by overall record (possibly involving tiebreaker games played during round 6).

Each playoff pool will then play a round-robin (rounds 7–11). After round 11, the teams will be repooled into six final pools of six teams. The top final pool will consist of the top three teams (ranked by overall win-loss record and then points-per-tossup-heard) from each of the top-tier playoff pools, the second final pool will have the bottom three teams from each of the two top-tier playoff pools, and so on.

Each team will then play the three teams in its final pool that it did not play in its playoff pool (rounds 12–14). At the conclusion of round 14, the top two teams in the top final pool (by overall record) will advance to the tournament finals. Ties for the top two spots will be broken during round 15, if necessary. (Round-6 tiebreaker games do not count in overall records.)

Division II will use the same format as the 2017 Intercollegiate Championship Tournament. Teams will be initially divided into four preliminary pools of eight teams, each of which will play a round-robin (rounds 1–7). These teams will be repooled into four new playoff pools of eight (the top two advance to the top pool, numbers three and four advance to the second pool, and so forth) for a second round-robin. Advancement will be determined by overall record (possibly involving tiebreaker games played during round 8).

In the second round-robin, teams will play the six teams they haven’t yet faced (rounds 9–14). At the conclusion of round 14, the top two teams in the top playoff pool (by overall record) will advance to the finals. Ties for the top two spots will be broken during round 15, if necessary. (Round-8 tiebreaker games do not count in final records.)

In both divisions, if the top two teams have identical records, they will play a one-game final for the championship. If one team has a one-win advantage, they will play an advantaged final (in which the second team needs to win two straight games). If one team has a two-game advantage, it will win the tournament outright (with no final).

In Division I, if the top two undergraduate teams are six or fewer spots apart in the rankings after round 14, they will play a similar one- or two-game final (regardless of their records). If the top undergraduate team is at least tied for second place (overall), it will be awarded the undergraduate title outright.

Placement games will also be played during round 15 if necessary to decide third place in either division or the undergraduate subdivision.
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So in Division I, ties will be played off at the first split, but not at the split from 12 teams to 6?
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That's correct. (Note that at the split from 12 teams to 6, teams that are eliminated are mathematically guaranteed to have at least two losses by that point in the tournament.)
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Congratulations to Yale A, who defeated UC Berkeley A 635-80 in the second game of an advantaged final to win the 2018 Division I ICT! Berkeley's B team claimed the Division I Undergraduate title with a 315-215 win over Oklahoma. In Division II, Chicago C defeated Harvard B 480-295 in a one-game final.

Complete team and individual statistics are now available on naqt.com.

Please note that the ICT set is not yet clear for discussion; a private forum will be available to discuss specific questions tomorrow evening.
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Important Bird Area wrote:Please note that the ICT set is not yet clear for discussion; a private forum will be available to discuss specific questions tomorrow evening.
This private forum has now been set up; select "2018 ICT Discussion" from your user control panel to apply for access.
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I want to thank Matt Bollinger and Andrew Hart for working with me on the DI set, and Jeff Hoppes, Larissa Kelly, and Neilesh Vinjamuri for taking care of the DII set. Billy Busse and Ike Jose also gave valuable feedback on the sets. I also want to thank the many writers and subject editors who contributed to the sets. I hope the Writer/Editor/N year staffer ribbons we attached to the staffer name tags got their recipients some well-deserved thanks.

I hope all the players and staffers had a great time this weekend. I was very glad to return to ICT after a couple years' absence. It was nice getting a chance to put faces to names, catch up with old friends, and meet members of the community I hadn't met before.

I was especially impressed with the players I saw. It's gratifying to see people who were coming up when I left school who have become outstanding players and club/community leaders. And it's very exciting to see new-to-me players who clearly love the game. I saw a lot of great buzzes and bonus part gets, from the grizzled veterans I already knew and from players I'd never seen play before, and from teams in all of the playoff bracket tiers.

Thank you all, you made my weekend a real pleasure.

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Our promotional video for the 2018 ICT, powered by LetterOne, is now available.
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Podcasts are now available of selected matches from the 2018 NAQT ICT.
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