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by **Not That Kind of Christian!!** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:23 pm

PACE is pleased to announce that the 2011 NSC will be held at Northwestern University on June 4 and 5. Tournament directors Andrew Hart and Gautam Kandlikar will soon post with a list of some convenient nearby hotels. Also, please note that Northwestern is accessible from O'Hare Airport by both public transportation and fixed-fare taxi. In case of contingency, the nearby Loyola Academy has also been reserved as a backup site. Teams will be notified on or before March 15 in the unlikely event that the tournament will be held at Loyola instead of Northwestern.

We look forward to welcoming teams, coaches, and parents to NSC 2011.

by **dtaylor4** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:38 pm

The fee structure can be found here.

In short: they are the same as they were last year, save some date changes.

$500 per team
-$10 per buzzer
-$50 per experienced staffer
-$25 for qualifying at an affiliated tournament
-$50 for qualifying at a gold tournament
-$75 for qualifying at a platinum tournament
-$10 for hosting a gold tournament
-$20 for hosting a platinum tournament
-$25 for early payment (the date has been moved to March 1, 2011).
+$15 per day late fee. Due to May 1 being a Sunday, it will start on May 2, 2011.

If you have any questions, email me at (firstname)(lastname).pace@gmail.com.

by **dtaylor4** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:40 pm

Registration:

If a team has qualified at a platinum tournament, it can officially register on December 1, 2010.
If a team has qualified at a gold tournament, it can officially register on January 1, 2011.
If a team has qualified at two or more affiliated tournaments, it can officially register on January 15, 2011.
If a team has qualified at one affiliated tournament, it can officially register on February 1, 2011.

by **millionwaves** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:16 pm

Please remember to check pace-nsc.org periodically over the coming months until the tournament for updates about which tournaments are serving as qualifiers and which teams have qualified.

If you'd like to check to see which tournaments are qualifiers (and which have been awarded gold or platinum status), please check this page.

If you'd like to check to see which teams have qualified for PACE, please check this page.

by **SoLegit12** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:13 pm

I've been left off the list for qualified teams

by **Rufous-capped Thornbill** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:42 pm

SoLegit12 wrote:I've been left off the list for qualified teams

PACE Website wrote:The following teams have earned 1 bid to the 2011 NSC at a certified tournament:

[Teams]
“DDII”
[Teams]

by **dtaylor4** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:02 pm

Inkana7 wrote:
SoLegit12 wrote:I've been left off the list for qualified teams

PACE Website wrote:The following teams have earned 1 bid to the 2011 NSC at a certified tournament:

[Teams]
“DDII”
[Teams]

This is being looked into.

by **Gautam** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:06 pm

Hello all,

I would like to remind teams that have qualified to the 2011 NSC through the Platinum-certified tournaments that you will be able to register for the NSC beginning December 1. These teams have already been notified of the early registration window. The team coaches will be provided a link to the registration forms via email.

More information on entry fees and registration can be found at the PACE website (www.pace-nsc.org)

If you have any questions, please email myself and Donald Taylor at gkandlikar@gmail.com and donaldtaylor.pace@gmail.com respectively.

Thank you,
Gautam Kandlikar

by **The Laughing Cavalier** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:10 pm

A list of teams that have qualified for this tournament can now be found here. This list reflects all teams qualifying at tournaments that have been officially certified, the most recent of which took place on 10/23/2010. It also notes their level of certification and thus the date at which they may begin to register for the NSC. The list of affiliated tournaments and qualified teams by state available on the PACE website will also be updated throughout the week. PACE apologizes for the delay in posting this information, and I will continue to add teams to this list as soon as more tournaments are certified. Thank you for your patience, and please feel free to let me know if I have made a mistake in transcribing the name of your team or tournament. I can be reached at sangelo147 AT gmail DOT com.

by **The Laughing Cavalier** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:04 pm

MLWGS-Gir wrote:A list of teams that have qualified for this tournament can now be found here. This list reflects all teams qualifying at tournaments that have been officially certified, the most recent of which took place on 10/23/2010. It also notes their level of certification and thus the date at which they may begin to register for the NSC. The list of affiliated tournaments and qualified teams by state available on the PACE website will also be updated throughout the week. PACE apologizes for the delay in posting this information, and I will continue to add teams to this list as soon as more tournaments are certified. Thank you for your patience, and please feel free to let me know if I have made a mistake in transcribing the name of your team or tournament. I can be reached at sangelo147 AT gmail DOT com.

The aforementioned list is now updated through 11/20/2010. There are now 41 affiliated tournaments, so I appreciate your continued patience as I attempt to balance updating the teams by state and affiliated tournaments lists with finishing my semester.

by **dtaylor4** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:48 pm

For teams who qualified at platinum tournaments, registration is now open.

The link to the registration form can be found here.

If you have any questions about registration, feel free to email me at donaldtaylor.pace at gmail.com.

by **The Laughing Cavalier** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:13 pm

dtaylor4 wrote:For teams who qualified at platinum tournaments, registration is now open.

The link to the registration form can be found here.

If you have any questions about registration, feel free to email me at donaldtaylor.pace at gmail.com.

A list of registered teams is currently being maintained here.

by **The Laughing Cavalier** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:56 pm

The lists of affiliated tournaments, qualified teams, qualified teams by state, and registered teams have now all been updated.

Also, as I took charge of these four pages last Sunday, it is entirely possible that I have made transcription errors in my attempt to address the backlog as quickly as possible. If you notice an error or would prefer to have your team name listed differently (as a graduate of a high school whose students argue whether our full name is 10 words or 13, I understand), please feel free to let me know at sangelo147 AT gmail DOT com. I intend to have additions to the field updated within 24 hours of registration and the other three pages caught up within 48 hours of rulings by the certification committee. Thank you once again for your patience.

by **Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:04 pm

Are you not affiliating with Jefferson City's tournament?

by **dxdtdemon** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:37 pm

What about BOKCHOI?

by **nobthehobbit** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:22 am

quantumfootball wrote:What about BOKCHOI?

Or the Ottawa Quizbowl Tournament?

by **Flutist Wren** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:36 am

Jeremy Gibbs Freesy Does It wrote:Are you not affiliating with Jefferson City's tournament?

I received an email from George Berry indicating that my tournament was an affiliated event.

by **Masked Canadian History Bandit** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:41 am

nobthehobbit wrote:
quantumfootball wrote:What about BOKCHOI?

Or the Ottawa Quizbowl Tournament?

As far as I am aware, neither of the TDs asked for affiliation, which is a mighty shame, as Lisgar is actually considering going to PACE NSC this year.

by **Frater Taciturnus** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:37 am

All of the tournaments posted about in this recent discussion are being considered for the next round of certification voting.

by **SoLegit12** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:19 am

Frater Taciturnus wrote:All of the tournaments posted about in this recent discussion are being considered for the next round of certification voting.

Is there a way the PACE certification committee could post minutes/tournaments for consideration for upcoming meetings? That would make things easier to see and add additions

by **bsmith** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:27 pm

Patar knight wrote:
nobthehobbit wrote:
quantumfootball wrote:What about BOKCHOI?

Or the Ottawa Quizbowl Tournament?

As far as I am aware, neither of the TDs asked for affiliation, which is a mighty shame, as Lisgar is actually considering going to PACE NSC this year.

PACE changed their policy last year so that hosts have to opt-out of consideration. There is no need to ask now, so the OQT will get listed in due time (it did last year with no action on Ottawa's part).

by **Masked Canadian History Bandit** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:30 pm

bsmith wrote:
Patar knight wrote:
nobthehobbit wrote:
quantumfootball wrote:What about BOKCHOI?

Or the Ottawa Quizbowl Tournament?

As far as I am aware, neither of the TDs asked for affiliation, which is a mighty shame, as Lisgar is actually considering going to PACE NSC this year.

PACE changed their policy last year so that hosts have to opt-out of consideration. There is no need to ask now, so the OQT will get listed in due time (it did last year with no action on Ottawa's part).

I guess I was under the mistaken impression that it still had to be requested by the TD. My bad. Anyways, a cursory glance at the "How to qualify for the 2011 PACE NSC" page on the PACE website: http://www.pace-nsc.org/?p=1005 was somewhat ambiguous on whether TDs had to request certification.

by **jonpin** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:03 am

Not That Kind of Christian!! wrote:PACE is pleased to announce that the 2011 NSC will be held at Northwestern University on June 4 and 5. Tournament directors Andrew Hart and Gautam Kandlikar will soon post with a list of some convenient nearby hotels.

I'm attempting to figure out how much this trip would cost our school/students, and such a list as was promised in August would be appreciated.

by **Kouign Amann** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:49 pm

Is there any chance that PACE could organize a block of rooms at some nearby hotel and get some sort of group discount for them?

by **AKKOLADE** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:20 pm

Speaking unofficially: we've found in the past that this has rendered less of a discount than teams would get from, say, Priceline, when considered from an "amount of effort put in" view. Also, there's issues in the past with attempts like that, such as Harvard's budget pretty much being murdered when hs teams didn't opt into the rooms at the hotel for HFT.

by **Susan** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:31 pm

Also, there's issues in the past with attempts like that, such as Harvard's budget pretty much being murdered when hs teams didn't opt into the rooms at the hotel for HFT.

My recollection is that the Harvard near-disaster resulted from a "if they're not booked, booker pays" model of room-block reserving (whereas usually people go with the less punishing "if they're not booked by a certain date, often 3-4 weeks before the event, they're released and no discount for you" model). That said, I totally agree with Fred, for the other reasons he's mentioned, about the low utility of reserving blocks of rooms.

For teams that want to start looking into PACE accommodations, Northwestern's website has a list of walking-distance and other nearby hotels. Teams who will have a car may also want to consider staying out by O'Hare, where there are possibly better deals to be had.

by **Mechanical Beasts** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:03 pm

myamphigory wrote:
Also, there's issues in the past with attempts like that, such as Harvard's budget pretty much being murdered when hs teams didn't opt into the rooms at the hotel for HFT.

My recollection is that the Harvard near-disaster resulted from a "if they're not booked, booker pays" model of room-block reserving (whereas usually people go with the less punishing "if they're not booked by a certain date, often 3-4 weeks before the event, they're released and no discount for you" model). That said, I totally agree with Fred, for the other reasons he's mentioned, about the low utility of reserving blocks of rooms.

Yeah; for some reason one of the hotels involved in that group rate wasn't interested in the nice model. Conveniently, Craigslist saved us.

by **David Riley** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:47 pm

It is true that motels in Evanston and the surrounding area are not cheap. There is a Motel 6 in Glenview, about a 30-40 min. drive to Northwestern, which may be your best bet.

by **Broad-tailed Grassbird** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:48 am

I fully endorse this hotel: http://www.hiskokie.com/

Why? They have a bollywood TV package. We spent 4 hours watching B4U and other channels watching hindi music videos. It's a 15 minute drive from NU.

by **Edward Powers** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:41 am

To the PACE Certification Committee:

I noticed that you do not have Cheshire listed as a PACE qualifier from Connecticut, but Cheshire finished 4th at Yale's FAcT on October 23rd, earning the 4th and final qualifying spot for FAcT. I am sure the TD from Yale---I think it is John Lawrence---can confirm this, and I am certain you would want to correct this oversight.

And a question if I might: Some of the best teams in the U.S. qualified at Harvard's Fall Tournament, surely a Platinum calibre tournament allowing its qualifiers immediate registration for the NSC, but since this version of the the HFT has not yet been officially certified, at least one, and perhaps more of those teams, including your defending Champion, are not yet eligible to register. Any idea when this will be rectified?

by **Mechanical Beasts** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:01 pm

Edward Powers wrote:To the PACE Certification Committee:

I noticed that you do not have Cheshire listed as a PACE qualifier from Connecticut, but Cheshire finished 4th at Yale's FAcT on October 23rd, earning the 4th and final qualifying spot for FAcT. I am sure the TD from Yale---I think it is John Lawrence---can confirm this, and I am certain you would want to correct this oversight.

And a question if I might: Some of the best teams in the U.S. qualified at Harvard's Fall Tournament, surely a Platinum calibre tournament allowing its qualifiers immediate registration for the NSC, but since this version of the the HFT has not yet been officially certified, at least one, and perhaps more of those teams, including your defending Champion, are not yet eligible to register. Any idea when this will be rectified?

George was talking to me about a week ago about who the top eight were (which I figured out for him) so I imagine that if HFT hasn't been officially certified yet, it will be quite soon.

by **SoLegit12** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:16 pm

Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:
Edward Powers wrote:To the PACE Certification Committee:

I noticed that you do not have Cheshire listed as a PACE qualifier from Connecticut, but Cheshire finished 4th at Yale's FAcT on October 23rd, earning the 4th and final qualifying spot for FAcT. I am sure the TD from Yale---I think it is John Lawrence---can confirm this, and I am certain you would want to correct this oversight.

And a question if I might: Some of the best teams in the U.S. qualified at Harvard's Fall Tournament, surely a Platinum calibre tournament allowing its qualifiers immediate registration for the NSC, but since this version of the the HFT has not yet been officially certified, at least one, and perhaps more of those teams, including your defending Champion, are not yet eligible to register. Any idea when this will be rectified?

George was talking to me about a week ago about who the top eight were (which I figured out for him) so I imagine that if HFT hasn't been officially certified yet, it will be quite soon.

Isn't "prompt statistics" a requirement for certification? I remember some problems with stats at HFT

by **Edward Powers** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:51 am

Andy,

And who did you identify as the Top 8? I ask for reasons of which you should be aware. The Top 8 that you previously posted are not truly the Top 8. But I will leave this to you, since I told you I would not bother you anymore about this. Assuming that your HFT will receive Platinum status, what really matters now is that any team from the HFT which would normally already be eligible to register for NSC be allowed to do so ASAP if it wishes.

In a separate matter, I hope the certification committee will look into the Cheshire situation I mentioned in my earlier post.

Happy Holidays to all.

EDITED: For concision.

by **Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:11 pm

I have to ask, what's the point of having gold and platinum qualified teams get the chance to register early if PACE won't tell gold and platinum qualified teams who they are in time for those deadlines?

by **jlchockey94** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:32 pm

PACE did a very good job of telling my team, GDS, when we could register after we qualified at a platinum tournament.

by **Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:50 pm

You know teams can't be told they've gotten platinum bids if PACE takes forever to award them platinum status, right?

by **dtaylor4** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:12 pm

Teams that qualified at gold tournaments can now register for the 2011 PACE NSC.

If you have qualified, and I have not sent your team the link to the registration form, or if you have trouble registering, email me at donaldtaylor.pace at gmail.com.

Shortly after registering, I will follow up with an official invoice.

by **Papa's in the House** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:25 am

David Riley wrote:It is true that motels in Evanston and the surrounding area are not cheap. There is a Motel 6 in Glenview, about a 30-40 min. drive to Northwestern, which may be your best bet.

There are many hotels in the Gurnee area and other northern suburbs (~30-40 min. drive to Northwestern). Most of these hotels are right off I-94.

by **jonpin** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:09 pm

Those of you suggesting hotels a half-hour drive away, what are you suggesting for the dozens of teams that are flying in? Renting a car or taking a cab back and forth are going to add a lot of money to an already not-low cost.

by **Susan** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:45 pm

jonpin wrote:Those of you suggesting hotels a half-hour drive away, what are you suggesting for the dozens of teams that are flying in? Renting a car or taking a cab back and forth are going to add a lot of money to an already not-low cost.

Above, I posted a list of hotels within walking distance, so that's already out there. Since that's covered, it hardly seems weird that people are offering additional options for the (surely reasonably sized) contingent of people who will be driving.

by **dtaylor4** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:36 pm

With the registration of Torrey Pines A and B, we're up to 31 teams!

by **Not That Kind of Christian!!** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:04 pm

PACE is very excited to announce that for this year's NSC, we will expand the field to 72 teams. This represents the all-time largest field size for the NSC. Thank you in advance to the teams for their interest and staffers for their commitment to helping the tournament grow.

by **Kouign Amann** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:20 pm

Not That Kind of Christian!! wrote:PACE is very excited to announce that for this year's NSC, we will expand the field to 72 teams. This represents the all-time largest field size for the NSC. Thank you in advance to the teams for their interest and staffers for their commitment to helping the tournament grow.

How will the playoff format change in light of this expansion?

by **Irreligion in Bangladesh** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:16 am

Prof.Whoopie wrote:
Not That Kind of Christian!! wrote:PACE is very excited to announce that for this year's NSC, we will expand the field to 72 teams. This represents the all-time largest field size for the NSC. Thank you in advance to the teams for their interest and staffers for their commitment to helping the tournament grow.

How will the playoff format change in light of this expansion?

If I were PACE people, I wouldn't waste any time thinking about format specifics yet. They may find themselves bumping to 80 before long.

by **Sun Devil Student** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:22 am

I just happened to notice the ASU mirror of Fall Novice from 11/20 isn't listed? I thought we had affiliation for that tournament.

by **dtaylor4** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:35 am

Representatives from teams who have qualified at an affiliated tournament should have an email in their inbox from me.

If this is not the case, let me know.

by **TheKingInYellow** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:06 pm

So I've been told that HFT is an affiliated tournament, and teams have not yet been qualified simply because all the stats outside the winners bracket still aren't clear. Is it possible that State College could register anyway, since we are definitely one of the teams that qualified at HFT?

by **Mechanical Beasts** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:18 pm

TheKingInYellow wrote:So I've been told that HFT is an affiliated tournament, and teams have not yet been qualified simply because all the stats outside the winners bracket still aren't clear. Is it possible that State College could register anyway, since we are definitely one of the teams that qualified at HFT?

HFT is platinum; the top eight (which I listed in the thread) should certainly be able to register.

by **dtaylor4** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:49 pm

TheKingInYellow wrote:So I've been told that HFT is an affiliated tournament, and teams have not yet been qualified simply because all the stats outside the winners bracket still aren't clear. Is it possible that State College could register anyway, since we are definitely one of the teams that qualified at HFT?

I'm curious as to your source.

by **TheKingInYellow** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:41 pm

Well we at State College would very much like to register, but upon our last check were not on the list of qualified teams, so we talked to George and Sarah about it at TIT

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