grayson77 wrote:Glad to see some more competitive teams signing up at the last minute.
Hopefully the field will be pushed of 20 to get the extra qualifying spots.
We could provide a third team if needed to tip the field over.
Is there any chance that this tournament will be given gold status?
grayson77 wrote:Is there any chance that this tournament will be given gold status?
Gold-certified tournaments are affiliated tournaments which offer all teams at least seven games, use varsity-level questions deemed "good" by the PACE Certification Committee
have at least two teams in attendance likely to finish in the top half of the NSC.
bmonster09 wrote:Yes, FFHS is interested in the tournament, but we'll have to check into it. I should be able to get back to you by tomorrow.
soaringeagle22 wrote:The only one I know of is Frederick Fraize High School, which is the high school for the quaint little river town of Cloverport in Breckinridge County. They're in our region (they were in our district in middle school) and I've heard are showing more interest in good quizbowl this year. But I have no idea if that is the right FFHS.
bmonster09 wrote:soaringeagle22 wrote:The only one I know of is Frederick Fraize High School, which is the high school for the quaint little river town of Cloverport in Breckinridge County. They're in our region (they were in our district in middle school) and I've heard are showing more interest in good quizbowl this year. But I have no idea if that is the right FFHS.
That's a great way to put it, and is the right FFHS.
bmonster09 wrote:First of all, sorry to get back to you later than I said I would. But as far as the tournament goes, it looks like Frederick Fraize isn't going to be able to make it. However, we hope that the Dunbar tournament goes well for those participating, and we might try to get to the tournament in future seasons.
grayson77 wrote:Any word on Madisonville yet?
Huang wrote:And there seems to be major communication problems right now within Dunbar. So I'm giving full disclosure for the teams attending:
1) I was completely unaware of us guaranteeing a JV division. I've only simply considered it as a possiblility.
2) I am being told Dunbar won't allow me to send the set out to mirrors unless I send it to a faculty member first due to Dunbar's name being on it. Have any high schools/colleges dealt with something similar to this before? Surely one of the most absurd things I've heard in the past few days but I'll explain below as to why I'm being told this.
3) I am also being told hard copies (here in lies the reason why the above "requirement" was mentioned to me; so unnecessary hard copies could be made) must be printed off even though we have an absurdly large amount of laptops available. Such a large amount that only Y2K could stop this tournament from happening. I am pretty convinced this tree-killing back up plan is not reasonable given the large amount of laptops available at Dunbar, although I could certainly be wrong.
Here is why I post the above: Am I wrong in..
1) Not guaranteeing a JV division (which had been apparently guaranteed to a couple teams without my knowledge)?
2) Sending the set to the Loyola mirror first before dealing with absurd bureaucratic "requirements" that could certainly be made up given the ridiculousness of them?
3) Being strongly against the printing of hard copies due to the large amount of laptops available and because it's just plain environmentally-friendly to not print hard copies when they're not needed?
Huang wrote:2) Sending the set to the Loyola mirror first before dealing with absurd bureaucratic "requirements" that could certainly be made up given the ridiculousness of them?
AlphaQuizBowler wrote:Huang wrote:2) Sending the set to the Loyola mirror first before dealing with absurd bureaucratic "requirements" that could certainly be made up given the ridiculousness of them?
Is is really "absurd" or "ridiculous" for a school to want to monitor what it is given credit for? If you are using the Dunbar name on your set, you are obliged to let your school approve your work. That's not being burdensome on the school's part at all. If you want to call it the "Sandy Huang Question Set," then you can do whatever you want.
Edit: Acronym issues
dtaylor4 wrote:AlphaQuizBowler wrote:Huang wrote:2) Sending the set to the Loyola mirror first before dealing with absurd bureaucratic "requirements" that could certainly be made up given the ridiculousness of them?
Is is really "absurd" or "ridiculous" for a school to want to monitor what it is given credit for? If you are using the Dunbar name on your set, you are obliged to let your school approve your work. That's not being burdensome on the school's part at all. If you want to call it the "Sandy Huang Question Set," then you can do whatever you want.
Edit: Acronym issues
So all schools should submit their house-written sets for administration approval? I do not like the precedent established by this.
dtaylor4 wrote:AlphaQuizBowler wrote:Huang wrote:2) Sending the set to the Loyola mirror first before dealing with absurd bureaucratic "requirements" that could certainly be made up given the ridiculousness of them?
Is is really "absurd" or "ridiculous" for a school to want to monitor what it is given credit for? If you are using the Dunbar name on your set, you are obliged to let your school approve your work. That's not being burdensome on the school's part at all. If you want to call it the "Sandy Huang Question Set," then you can do whatever you want.
Edit: Acronym issues
So all schools should submit their house-written sets for administration approval? I do not like the precedent established by this.
akinney wrote:I have a few things to say about Madisonville and then a few questions.
1. I do not believe that Madisonville has any starters taking the ACT on the 24th. I'm pretty sure I'm not. Even if there is one or two taking the ACT, I will make it my personal responsibility to get Madisonville to attend, regardless.
2. It is currently 2:54 AM. I will be at school in approximately 4 hours. I will immediately ask our coach about our team's status, and I will report back to you with the results.
My questions are fairly common (sorry I didn't read the posts, but I joined kind of late):
1. How much is the fee? Are there any discounts for buzzer systems or anything like that?
2. Any requirements?
3. I take it the questions are NAQT, correct?
That's it. I should be back on here later this evening. Cheers!![]()
Huang wrote:Fee Structure
Base fee: $70 for the first team and $50 dollars for any subsequent teams from the same school.
Buzzers: Each school should bring at least one working buzzer system if possible. Each additional working buzzer system will result in a discount of $5. The number of times a school can qualify for the buzzer discount will equal the number of teams it brings. Each team from a school will have a maximum buzzer discount of $5.
Travel: -$10 for every 200 miles traveled by a team one way according to Google Maps (no rounding up). This means if School X brings 10 teams then all 10 teams will receive the travel discount. We encourage out of state teams, especially those in Ohio, Tennessee, West Virginia, Indiana, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas, to make the trip to Lexington. I know Michigan teams could make the trip to Lexington since I know I’ve seen DCC teams at Russell tournaments.
akinney wrote:1. Is there anything important we should know?
2. Will you send out an email with more information?
3. How do we register?
Huang wrote:Field - 20 teams and 5 buzzers (Dunbar has 3 working buzzers)
Danville Bate (2) - $120 fee
Faiyad wrote:Huang wrote:Field - 20 teams and 5 buzzers (Dunbar has 3 working buzzers)
Danville Bate (2) - $120 fee
Danville Bate? As in the Middle School?
Or do you mean the High School?
Huang wrote:Add a house team in the morning. Do a round robin with 3 divisions consisting of 7 teams and each team gets 6 rounds in the prelims. We have two options on doing lunch. Put lunch in after Round 5 or put lunch in after Round 6.
Take out the house team in the afternoon. Do a tiered round robin with 4 divisions consisting of 5 teams and each team gets 4 rounds in the playoffs.
Earthquake wrote:Huang wrote:Add a house team in the morning. Do a round robin with 3 divisions consisting of 7 teams and each team gets 6 rounds in the prelims. We have two options on doing lunch. Put lunch in after Round 5 or put lunch in after Round 6.
Take out the house team in the afternoon. Do a tiered round robin with 4 divisions consisting of 5 teams and each team gets 4 rounds in the playoffs.
That takes up all 12 rounds, though. You'd have no room for finals or tiebreakers.
soaringeagle22 wrote:Earthquake wrote:Huang wrote:Add a house team in the morning. Do a round robin with 3 divisions consisting of 7 teams and each team gets 6 rounds in the prelims. We have two options on doing lunch. Put lunch in after Round 5 or put lunch in after Round 6.
Take out the house team in the afternoon. Do a tiered round robin with 4 divisions consisting of 5 teams and each team gets 4 rounds in the playoffs.
That takes up all 12 rounds, though. You'd have no room for finals or tiebreakers.
6+4=10
Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:soaringeagle22 wrote:Earthquake wrote:Huang wrote:Add a house team in the morning. Do a round robin with 3 divisions consisting of 7 teams and each team gets 6 rounds in the prelims. We have two options on doing lunch. Put lunch in after Round 5 or put lunch in after Round 6.
Take out the house team in the afternoon. Do a tiered round robin with 4 divisions consisting of 5 teams and each team gets 4 rounds in the playoffs.
That takes up all 12 rounds, though. You'd have no room for finals or tiebreakers.
6+4=10
I bet Harry White didn't know that! Unfortunately, you yourself didn't know that a seven team round robin takes seven rounds, and a five team round robin takes five.
Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:soaringeagle22 wrote:Earthquake wrote:Huang wrote:Add a house team in the morning. Do a round robin with 3 divisions consisting of 7 teams and each team gets 6 rounds in the prelims. We have two options on doing lunch. Put lunch in after Round 5 or put lunch in after Round 6.
Take out the house team in the afternoon. Do a tiered round robin with 4 divisions consisting of 5 teams and each team gets 4 rounds in the playoffs.
That takes up all 12 rounds, though. You'd have no room for finals or tiebreakers.
6+4=10
I bet Harry White didn't know that! Unfortunately, you yourself didn't know that a seven team round robin takes seven rounds, and a five team round robin takes five.
Earthquake wrote:Huang wrote:Add a house team in the morning. Do a round robin with 3 divisions consisting of 7 teams and each team gets 6 rounds in the prelims. We have two options on doing lunch. Put lunch in after Round 5 or put lunch in after Round 6.
Take out the house team in the afternoon. Do a tiered round robin with 4 divisions consisting of 5 teams and each team gets 4 rounds in the playoffs.
That takes up all 12 rounds, though. You'd have no room for finals or tiebreakers.
Doink the Clown wrote:Huh? I always thought it took 4. Each team plays every team in the round-robin but itself, so each team plays 4 games.
EDIT: The above refers specifically to a 5-team RR, but the situation would be much the same for a 7 team RR.
soaringeagle22 wrote:Woodford did good to get to the top bracket, and Paintsville B gave us quite a scare in the prelims. Congrats to all those teams.
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