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ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:38 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
I am pleased to announce that this year’s iteration of ACF Fall will take place the weekend of November 3, 2018.

The set will be edited by Ashwin Ramaswami, Neil Vinjamuri, Nitin Rao, Olivia Lamberti, Rahul Keyal and Young Lee. I, Nathan Weiser, will be overseeing set production, with assistance from Adam Silverman (who will advise science editing) and other ACF members.

Fees
The fee structure will be the same as the one used for ACF Fall 2017.

Base fee: $135
Buzzer: -$5/functional system
Staffers: -$10/staffer
Shorthanded fee (teams of 1 or 2 players): $60
"New to Quizbowl" discount: $100

Packet submission
Any team with at least two people on it who played a regular, collegiate, academic quizbowl tournament prior to September 1, 2017 is required to submit a half-packet, unless it is a high school team attending a high school-only mirror. If you have any questions about your team's submission status, please email us at fall2018acf@gmail.com.

The submission schedule is:
September 8: -$30
September 22: -$15 (-$30 if optional)
October 6: no penalty (-$15 if optional)
October 13: +$25
October 20: +$50
Packets submitted later than October 20 will receive an additional penalty.

If your team desires to submit a half-packet or is obligated to do so, email fall2018acf@gmail.com so we can provide you with a 12/12 distribution. It's never too early to start writing!

Hosting
If you are interested in hosting a mirror, please contact us at fall2018acf@gmail.com. We intend to have the set mirrored in the following regions (the list will be updated as sites are confirmed):

New England - Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Cambridge, MA)
Mid-Atlantic - University of Maryland (College Park, MD)
South Central - Georgia Institute of Technology (Atlanta, GA)
Southeast - University of Florida (Gainesville, FL)
South - Liberal Arts and Science Academy High School (Austin, TX)
Pacific Northwest - University of Washington (Seattle, WA)
Southern California - UCLA (Los Angeles, CA)
Northern California - Stanford University (Palo Alto, CA)
North - University of Minnesota (Minneapolis/Saint Paul, MN)
Great Lakes - Ohio State University (Columbus, OH)
Midwest - University of Illinois (Champaign, IL)
Mountain West - University of Colorado (Boulder, CO)*
Canada - University of Toronto (Toronto, Canada)
United Kingdom - University of Warwick (Coventry, UK)

*- indicates that high school teams are allowed to register at this site

High school-only sites:
University of Illinois (Champaign, IL)
Bellarmine College Prep (San Jose, CA)

Fields for each mirror site can be found here.

High school teams and HS-only mirrors
Beginning with ACF Fall 2018, ACF will allow high school teams to attend select mirrors of ACF Fall. Hosts interested in having high school teams attend their mirror should contact fall2018acf@gmail.com to apply for an exemption. If this exemption is granted, hosts will work with ACF to assess high school teams' requests to play the tournament on a case-by-case basis. More information on ACF's updated high school policies can be found in this thread.

The following sites have been granted this exemption:
Mountain West - University of Colorado (Boulder, CO)
Southern California - UCLA (Los Angeles, CA)


We are also willing to provide the set for high school-only tournaments, as we have done in the past. Those interested in hosting a high school-only mirror of ACF Fall 2018 should express interest by email to fall2018acf@gmail.com.

Registration

Teams can register for ACF Fall by filling out this google form.

List of submitted packets
First deadline (-$30)
Michigan State A
Michigan State C
Cambridge B
Georgia A
Queen's University A
Johns Hopkins A
Vanderbilt A
Vanderbilt B
Wright State
Illinois A
Rutgers A
NYU A
DePaul

Second deadline (-$15 and -$30)
Colorado A
Cambridge A
UGA B
UGA C
UGA D
UGA E
Florida
Gettysburg A
Michigan
MSU B
MSU D
Delaware
Auburn A
Binghamton
Michigan (Conor Thompson)
McGill A

Third deadline (-$0 and -$15)
Oxford A
Oxford B
Notre Dame A
Rice A
Case Western Reserve University A
New College of Florida A
UCF
McGill B
FSU
KSU
Carnegie Mellon A
Tulane A
Tulane B
UCSD A
Colorado B
Harvard A
Rochester
MTU A
MTU B

Fourth deadline (+$25)
College of Charleston
Louisville A
Northern Michigan
Georgetown A

Final deadline (+50)
UTEP A
Swarthmore A
Carleton College A
University of Kentucky A
Lawrence A
Louisiana Tech A
Purdue A
WUSTL A
University of North Texas
Texas A&M A
Texas A&M B
University of South Carolina
Cornell A
Iowa
Kenyon

After the final deadline (on top of +$50, a flat $30 penalty and $10/day submitted after 10/27)
Alabama A
Amherst

If you have any questions or concerns, please post in this thread or send an email to fall2018acf@gmail.com.

See you in November!

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:37 pm
by Milhouse
The email address linked in the above post doesn't seem to exist yet? At the very least, both the emails I've sent asking for a distribution have failed, claiming that the address doesn't exist.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:42 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
Milhouse wrote:The email address linked in the above post doesn't seem to exist yet? At the very least, both the emails I've sent asking for a distribution have failed, claiming that the address doesn't exist.
Good catch - the actual email address is fall2018acf@gmail.com. I've fixed the original post accordingly.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:59 pm
by A Very Long Math Tossup
Can we expect sites to be announced soon? We'd like to get an early start on collegiate outreach, and it really helps to have an actual tournament to invite teams to.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:05 am
by vengefulsweatermensch
A Very Long Math Tossup wrote:Can we expect sites to be announced soon? We'd like to get an early start on collegiate outreach, and it really helps to have an actual tournament to invite teams to.
I made an (unannounced) decision to postpone site announcements one week to drum up more bids. Prospective hosts should expect to receive an update on their bid status this weekend. I apologize for the delay.

Speaking of which: I know of several schools that plan on hosting ACF Fall, but haven't actually submitted bids yet. If you're one of these schools, send me an email! Do it today!

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:53 am
by JKHtay
vengefulsweatermensch wrote:Prospective hosts should expect to receive an update on their bid status this weekend.
Would it be possible for us to have an update on the status of our bids? Thanks!

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:31 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
JKHtay wrote:
vengefulsweatermensch wrote:Prospective hosts should expect to receive an update on their bid status this weekend.
Would it be possible for us to have an update on the status of our bids? Thanks!
The announcement has been updated to include the first slate of mirror sites. I will be contacting hosts later today to inform them officially. We are still looking for hosts in many key regions - these will be announced as soon as they are confirmed.

Thank you for your patience!

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:37 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
In unrelated news, the editors have asked me to announce two slight changes to the tournament distribution.

(1) The “painting” category, which as been renamed “visual fine arts,” has been expanded to include questions on sculpture as well as painting.
(2) Questions on opera are now considered part of the “music” category, rather than the “Other Fine Arts” category.

Because these changes were announced after some teams had already begun writing questions, teams will not be penalized if they disobey these instructions in packets sent before the first deadline (September 8). Packets submitted after the first deadline that do not conform to these changes will be returned to teams for correction.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:50 pm
by 1.82
vengefulsweatermensch wrote:High school mirrors
Beginning with ACF Fall 2018, ACF will allow high school teams to attend select mirrors of ACF Fall. Hosts interested in having high school teams attend their mirror should contact fall2018acf@gmail.com to apply for an exemption. If this exemption is granted, hosts will work with ACF to assess high school teams' requests to play the tournament on a case-by-case basis.
Will a list be maintained anywhere of sites and teams that have been approved in this manner?

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:01 pm
by A Very Long Math Tossup
Is there any difference in the registration fee structure for high school teams?

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:18 am
by theking259
Could we get access to the google sheet of the fields?

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:31 am
by CaseyB
Also, links to the announcements of each mirror in the original post would be helpful.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:59 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
1.82 wrote:
vengefulsweatermensch wrote:High school mirrors
Beginning with ACF Fall 2018, ACF will allow high school teams to attend select mirrors of ACF Fall. Hosts interested in having high school teams attend their mirror should contact fall2018acf@gmail.com to apply for an exemption. If this exemption is granted, hosts will work with ACF to assess high school teams' requests to play the tournament on a case-by-case basis.
Will a list be maintained anywhere of sites and teams that have been approved in this manner?
Yes, in this thread.
theking259 wrote:Could we get access to the google sheet of the fields?
Sure, as soon as I get the Google forms script to work!
CaseyB wrote:Also, links to the announcements of each mirror in the original post would be helpful.
Coming right up!
A Very Long Math Tossup wrote:Is there any difference in the registration fee structure for high school teams?
Good question. As in the past, high school teams attending high school-only sites will not be required to write packets, and will not be eligible for the "New to Quizbowl" discount. ACF is still evaluating whether or not these restrictions apply to high school teams attending college sites.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:31 am
by bradleykirksey
I'm sort of out of the loop, but did no one in the south east put in a bid except GT? UCF and UF like hosting, and Atlanta is 7 hours away from UCF and from me. And I think that it's farther for NCF.

Well, I guess it sounds like a long day of driving ahead!

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:37 pm
by a bird
The packet submission requirement this thread is:
vengefulsweatermensch wrote: Packet submission
Any team with at least two people on it who played a regular, collegiate, academic quizbowl tournament prior to September 1, 2017 is required to submit a half-packet, unless it is a high school team attending a high school-only mirror. If you have any questions about your team's submission status, please email us at fall2018acf@gmail.com.
But every site announcement says any team with one player who played a regular, collegiate, academic quizbowl tournament prior to September 1, 2017 is required to submit a half-packet.

Which is the true packet submission requirement?

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:17 am
by Smuttynose Island
The registration form says "two players." Since last year's policy required "two players," I imagine that it is the actual policy. The "one player" language probably comes from last year's Regionals announcements for which any team with a single experienced player was required to write a half packet.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:30 am
by LeoLaw
Will there be a Florida mirror? Ideally at either UF or UCF? The first packet submission deadline is next week and I would prefer not to submit a pack without the knowledge that we can attend this tournament. The turn out for the Florida mirror last year was very good and there is no reason not the have one this year.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:35 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
a bird wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:37 pm
The packet submission requirement this thread is:
vengefulsweatermensch wrote: Packet submission
Any team with at least two people on it who played a regular, collegiate, academic quizbowl tournament prior to September 1, 2017 is required to submit a half-packet, unless it is a high school team attending a high school-only mirror. If you have any questions about your team's submission status, please email us at fall2018acf@gmail.com.
But every site announcement says any team with one player who played a regular, collegiate, academic quizbowl tournament prior to September 1, 2017 is required to submit a half-packet.

Which is the true packet submission requirement?
Smuttynose Island wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:17 am
The registration form says "two players." Since last year's policy required "two players," I imagine that it is the actual policy. The "one player" language probably comes from last year's Regionals announcements for which any team with a single experienced player was required to write a half packet.
Daniel is right - the correct policy is the one described in this thread ("Two players," not "one player"). The tournament announcement template I sent to hosts contained a dated version of ACF's policy, so the fault is all mine. I will be notifying the hosts and asking them to make the necessary corrections shortly.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:47 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
LeoLaw wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:30 am
Will there be a Florida mirror? Ideally at either UF or UCF? The first packet submission deadline is next week and I would prefer not to submit a pack without the knowledge that we can attend this tournament. The turn out for the Florida mirror last year was very good and there is no reason not the have one this year.
The University of Florida will be hosting a mirror of ACF Fall on November 3, 2018.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:24 pm
by Milhouse
vengefulsweatermensch wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:59 pm
theking259 wrote:Could we get access to the google sheet of the fields?
Sure, as soon as I get the Google forms script to work!
Has this happened yet?

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:31 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
Milhouse wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:24 pm
vengefulsweatermensch wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:59 pm
theking259 wrote:Could we get access to the google sheet of the fields?
Sure, as soon as I get the Google forms script to work!
Has this happened yet?
Just now! Thank you for your patience with my luddite ways.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:54 pm
by Milhouse
I mistakenly filled out the registration form twice when I meant to edit it, so it should be noted that only one of the listed Delaware teams on the spreadsheet is correct (the one listed as packet-optional). I emailed the ACF Fall email account about this nearly a week ago but no action seems to have been taken, so I'm posting this publicly both to bring it more into their attention and to allay confusion it may cause others.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:52 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
Milhouse wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:54 pm
I mistakenly filled out the registration form twice when I meant to edit it, so it should be noted that only one of the listed Delaware teams on the spreadsheet is correct (the one listed as packet-optional). I emailed the ACF Fall email account about this nearly a week ago but no action seems to have been taken, so I'm posting this publicly both to bring it more into their attention and to allay confusion it may cause others.
Should be fixed now.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:36 pm
by 100% Clean Comedian Dan Nainan
Can the list of submitted packets be updated please?

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:25 am
by everdiso
Toronto has requested to host Fall, and while ACF responded positively to this, we've been emailing for a few weeks with no final confirmation. Twice now, I've sent an email that hasn't gotten a response for over a week. I'd like to know how much we'll be paying and get final confirmation that we will be hosting. The tournament is now only a month away.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:41 pm
by CPiGuy
100% Clean Comedian Dan Nainan wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:36 pm
Can the list of submitted packets be updated please?
It's now been two weeks since the September 22 deadline, and the next deadline is today. A submitted packets update would be great.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:09 pm
by CaseyB
CPiGuy wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:41 pm
100% Clean Comedian Dan Nainan wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:36 pm
Can the list of submitted packets be updated please?
It's now been two weeks since the September 22 deadline, and the next deadline is today. A submitted packets update would be great.
This.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:20 pm
by A Very Long Math Tossup
CaseyB wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:09 pm
CPiGuy wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:41 pm
100% Clean Comedian Dan Nainan wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:36 pm
Can the list of submitted packets be updated please?
It's now been two weeks since the September 22 deadline, and the next deadline is today. A submitted packets update would be great.
This.
Also this.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:04 pm
by CPiGuy
CPiGuy wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:41 pm
100% Clean Comedian Dan Nainan wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:36 pm
Can the list of submitted packets be updated please?
It's now been two weeks since the September 22 deadline, and the next deadline is today. A submitted packets update would be great.
Another packet deadline has come and gone. Still no updates.

Also, per conversation in the Discord, UCLA has apparently still not heard about their bid to host Fall. Apparently ACF's massive inability to communicate about things extends beyond just financial matters.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:32 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
Hi everybody,

I need to apologize for the logistical issues that this tournament has suffered the last few weeks, which are entirely my fault. I have been neglecting the community-facing side of the head editor job for a bit, now, and the grievances taken up in this thread and elsewhere are due to this - my lack of responsiveness - solely. Tonight and tomorrow, I will be working with teams and hosts to resolve the issues I have caused.

On the other side of things, editing is going well, and I’m excited to see the set played in just a few weeks!

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:50 pm
by Illinois Admin
When will hosts get the info for what teams packets were used? I could use it to start making our schedule and to see how I need to set up bye rounds. I emailed the Acf fall email twice now with no response.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:08 am
by nycaqb1999
Can you update Wesleyan's registration to show that we are fielding a DII team? We were unsure of the definition when signing up.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:09 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
Packets have been sent to the Saturday mirrors. If you haven't received the set but should have, email me ASAP.
Illinois Admin wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:50 pm
When will hosts get the info for what teams packets were used? I could use it to start making our schedule and to see how I need to set up bye rounds. I emailed the Acf fall email twice now with no response.
This was dealt with.
nycaqb1999 wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:08 am
Can you update Wesleyan's registration to show that we are fielding a DII team? We were unsure of the definition when signing up.
This is being dealt with.

Best of luck to all teams in competition tomorrow! Remember that the set is being played on Sunday, too, so don't publicly share question content (or the questions themselves!) until Sunday night.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:28 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
Packets have been sent to the Sunday mirrors.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:08 pm
by nycaqb1999
I’m super sorry but Wesleyan double misunderstood the DII qualifications, we were not DII eligible for Fall, but are for Nats.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:59 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
Thanks to all the teams that played ACF Fall this weekend! I hope you enjoyed playing our set. Discussion threads will be posted as soon as I've received confirmation that the California HS mirror is over.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:34 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
The set has been posted in the packet archive.

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:18 pm
by UlyssesInvictus
vengefulsweatermensch wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:34 pm
The set has been posted in the packet archive.
Any chance I could get the Word/Google Docs version of the files?

Re: ACF Fall 2018 - November 3rd, 2018

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:39 pm
by vengefulsweatermensch
UlyssesInvictus wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:18 pm
vengefulsweatermensch wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:34 pm
The set has been posted in the packet archive.
Any chance I could get the Word/Google Docs version of the files?
Sure! I'll share them with you tonight.