Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

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Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby No Rules Westbrook » Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:20 pm

As a result of people's responses to date preference for this event, I've decided to hold it on July 21.

I've accepted head editorship of Chicago Open this year. This event will be co-edited and written by Mike Bentley and Ted Gioia, with SteveJon Guth on science and Aaron Rosenberg on classical music.

Here's the distribution for submitted packets:
5/5 history (at least 1/1 American, 1/1 European, 1/1 world, vary by time and place)
5/5 Literature (at least 1/1 American, 1/1 European, 1/1 world, vary genres etc.)
5/5 Science (at least 1/1 bio, 1/1 chem, 1/1 physics, 1/1 other sciences)
3/3 RMP (at least 1/1 myth and 1/1 philosophy, no rigid 1/1 requirement for religion necessarily - or feel free to construe religion loosely)
3/3 Fine Arts (at least 1/1 art and 1/1 classical music)
2/2 Social Science (no more than 1/1 of any cateogry of soc sci)
2/2 Geography or Trash or "Your Choice" (no more than 1/1 of any of those things, "your choice" meaning any academic topic of course)

Length: Basically, every submitted tossup should at least make it to the sixth line (10 point, TNR, 1 inch margins) and should not exceed the eighth line.

Difficulty: I'd be shooting for about the same difficulty as last year's CO. But, just as I always say - I don't care if your ideal difficulty is higher or lower than mine, within reason, so long as you try to be consistent within each packet and write on things within the realm of importance and gettability.


Fees: Send packet 60 days before tournament - reduced fee of $60 (See Bentley's post below for the exact dates)
Send packet 35 days before tournament - normal fee of $120
Send packet 17 days before tournament - raised fee of $160
Send packet after that - $180


I'll give standard discounts for buzzers and moderators, and two discounts of $50 and $25 for the first and second best packets I receive (in my opinion - taking into consideration the experience and skills of the writers, but not penalizing for experience, etc.)

My email: CryoBristow@aol.com
Email me there to register for the tourney, for questions about the tourney, or if you want to moderate or bring buzzers etc. to the tourney.

CURRENT SIDE EVENT SCHEDULE:

History Doubles (currently set for Sunday morning)
Will Nediger's lit event (currently set after history doubles)

CURRENT FIELD:

See Spreadsheet (add yourself if you haven't yet) - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... FMUE#gid=0
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby No Rules Westbrook » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:28 pm

Oh, and if anyone has any side events they'd be looking to do CO weekend, post away (in some other thread perhaps labelled possible CO side events). It would be cool if some group of people put together a general interest side event, instead of Biochemistry Explosion, or something.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby grapesmoker » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:11 pm

Is there some unknown time period between "late July" and "early August" which I'm not aware of? I mean, if you'd rather not have the tournament before July 28, then you have no choice but to roll over into August.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby Muriel Axon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:50 pm

There is actually a thirteenth month between July and August that exists only in years that are multiples of 1006. It's a little known rule.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby No Rules Westbrook » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:30 pm

Perhaps what I meant is that I'm leaning toward July 28, but I wanted to give people some time to let me know if they would not be able to attend that date.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby Dr. Loki Skylizard, Thoracic Surgeon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:32 pm

The old HSQB calendar of Smarch comes into use.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby Cheynem » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:02 am

I would really prefer July.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby setht » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:33 am

No Rules Westbrook wrote:Perhaps what I meant is that I'm leaning toward July 28, but I wanted to give people some time to let me know if they would not be able to attend that date.


I will not be able to attend that date.

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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby Skepticism and Animal Feed » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:45 am

Let's do this scientifically - with a doodle

http://www.doodle.com/yfkwrtmdcctz5fzy

Put in your name and select the weekends you can and can't go to CO
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby grapesmoker » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:37 pm

Is the 21st a live option? It's included in the doodle but Ryan seems to be saying that he's not down with that date.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby Horned Screamer » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:53 pm

Please let it be!
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby MLafer » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:03 pm

Just FYI you should sign your name as more than just 'Matt', quiz bowl is notably replete with them.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby Cheynem » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:12 pm

Yeah, I know this puts more pressure on Ry-Ry, but the 21st would be great.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby grapesmoker » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:56 pm

I couldn't make the side events if the tournament was on the 21st but could make the main event.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby No Rules Westbrook » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:09 pm

I'm fine with the spreadsheet making the 21st an option - I'll weigh my own preferences together with those who can and cannot attend. And yeah, put last names in there - who's the single named Matt? Weiner?

Also, please only put red spaces if you know you can't attend, not just that you'd rather it be a certain date all things considered.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby mhayes » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:50 am

MLafer wrote:Just FYI you should sign your name as more than just 'Matt', quiz bowl is notably replete with them.


It isn't me, FWIW.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby Charbroil » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:52 pm

Is VCU Open going to happen again this year? If so, wouldn't the traditional date interfere with one of the two later dates?
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Re: Chicago Open 2012

Postby Cody » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:38 pm

Charbroil wrote:Is VCU Open going to happen again this year? If so, wouldn't the traditional date interfere with one of the two later dates?
VCU Open's traditional date is two weeks after Chicago Open. We will adjust accordingly for whatever date CO is held.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby grapesmoker » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:08 pm

I noticed the date change. Is this firm?
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Skepticism and Animal Feed » Tue May 01, 2012 1:57 pm

If anyone wants to split a hotel room in downtown Chicago, let me know. Especially if you have a car.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Tue May 01, 2012 2:44 pm

In case you haven't heard, SteveJon Guth is editing science and Aaron Rosenberg is editing classical music. I believe SteveJon is still looking for someone to help out with the biology and chemistry.

Also, here are the packet submission deadlines with actual dates:

Send packet on or before 5/21 - reduced fee of $60
Send packet on or before 6/16 - normal fee of $120
Send packet on or before 7/4 - raised fee of $160
Send packet after that - $180
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby No Rules Westbrook » Fri May 04, 2012 6:09 pm

Note that I will prorate the packet discount - so if you want to submit your portion of your packet before your teammates, that's allowed and encouraged
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby No Rules Westbrook » Tue May 08, 2012 8:24 pm

About side events - if anyone wants to request that some event be officially scheduled for Friday night or Saturday night, feel free to let me know (with the understanding that those slots are not optimal due to reasons including travel mania, exhaustion, and the fuzz).
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Tees-Exe Line » Wed May 09, 2012 11:52 pm

Hello Everyone

Andrew Hart had the excellent suggestion of honoring our many recently retired quizbowl luminaries with a cookout the weekend of Chicago Open. This wonderful event will be in my backyard at 7 PM the evening of Friday, July 20th. The following people are to be honored.

Susan Ferrari
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Please come to express your appreciation to these excellent individuals for their contribution to the game, as well as for good food and drink. The stipulations are that I'm asking for a $5 contribution (from everyone except the honorees), and if you plan to come, please RSVP to me at msteinbaum [at] gmail so I can form an estimate of how much food and beer/soft drinks will be needed.

My address is 5338 Harper Ave (commonly known as the John Maynard Keynes Institute), which is about 20 minutes' walk from the UChicago campus, and I will have the gate open that leads from the street directly to the backyard. If you'd like directions and are unable to come by them yourself for whatever reason, please say so in your RSVP. There's usually parking to be found in the neighborhood, especially along Blackstone (one block west of Harper) between 53rd and 55th streets.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby No Rules Westbrook » Sat May 12, 2012 5:06 pm

There's no retirement in quizbowl! I may, however, stipulate to attending on the grounds of honoring the listed persons being officially older than they were last year.

Side note: Are Brendan and Sorice playing CO?
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Thu May 17, 2012 12:25 am

This is a reminder that the first deadline is on Monday, 5/21.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Mon May 21, 2012 1:51 pm

Mike Bentley wrote:This is a reminder that the first deadline is on Monday, 5/21.


By the way, send packets to me and Ryan:

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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby No Rules Westbrook » Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:28 pm

So, right now, this tournament has 16 teams...and that's no good.

How crazy would people call me if I asked (if necessary) teams/players to combine, even if it meant that a few teams had to have five players (and would get to play all five players in their games). Do we have enough buzzers that can accommodate five person teams (I think so, right?)

NOTE: The above may turn out not to be necessary, but I'm just throwing it out there.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby cornfused » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:00 pm

Why is 16 no good? Does CO have to be RR?
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby fett0001 » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:02 pm

Not enough staff?
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby setht » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:04 pm

No Rules Westbrook wrote:How crazy would people call me if I asked (if necessary) teams/players to combine, even if it meant that a few teams had to have five players (and would get to play all five players in their games).


I'd put it somewhere between "Electric Universe-era Alfven" and "whoever wrote those Phoebe the Photon pamphlets that kept popping up in the UC Berkeley physics building back in the day." That's not good company on either end, Ryan.

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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:31 pm

Packet submission tournaments work out much better when there are an odd number of teams.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Susan » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:39 pm

Is scaring up another team and revisiting the exciting 17-team round-robin plan of 2008 a possibility?
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby No Rules Westbrook » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:00 am

I guess we'll play it by ear - it's gotta be 15 or 17, one way or the other. Double byes are the pits.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:04 am

Remember that the deadlines for this tournament are pro-rated, so you don't need to wait until the deadline to submit your questions.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby JamesIV » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:39 pm

For navigational purposes, do we know where on campus we'll be for this?
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:33 pm

JamesIV wrote:For navigational purposes, do we know where on campus we'll be for this?


Not yet. Apparently the Chicago room reservation process has changed since last year.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Susan » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:29 pm

Mike Bentley wrote:
JamesIV wrote:For navigational purposes, do we know where on campus we'll be for this?


Not yet. Apparently the Chicago room reservation process has changed since last year.


I mean, I'd be rather surprised if you weren't somewhere between 57th Street and 59th Street north-south and between Ellis Avenue and University Avenue east-west. Unless you're looking to choose your parking spot right now, that should suffice for navigational purposes.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:57 pm

It looks like we only have rooms until 10 PM on Saturday, so I wouldn't schedule any lengthy side tournaments after the main event.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Skepticism and Animal Feed » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:34 pm

When is the last time Chicago Open ended before 10 PM? What steps are being put into place to ensure that CO won't be broken up by the police?
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby No Rules Westbrook » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:08 pm

I really do think the fuzz is one of the biggest problems in qb right now.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:53 pm

The next deadline is tomorrow, 6/16. I hope to see some more packets by then.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:30 am

Please note that we are only accepting Word documents of finished questions. Any Google Doc that you share with us that you're "working on" will not be counted as being submitted.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Cheynem » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:22 am

Can we get a packet update?
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:59 am

The following teams have submitted full packets:
Droge et al
Grames et al

The following teams have submitted partial packets:
Cheyne et al
Borglum et al
Busse et al
Gupta et al
Teitler et al
Carson et al
Weinreich et al
Butler et al
McKendy et al
Mukherjee et al

Obviously there are a lot more submissions that need to happen very soon.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:02 am

By the way, let me know if you're able to staff this tournament.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby The Quest for the Historical Mukherjesus » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:36 pm

Hey Mike, John L. and I submitted our quarters of the packet before the first deadline, but I don't see us on your list. Is there a problem there?
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:20 pm

The Quest for the Historical Mukherjesus wrote:Hey Mike, John L. and I submitted our quarters of the packet before the first deadline, but I don't see us on your list. Is there a problem there?


Sorry, I missed copying that from the list of packets I have. There are also a few other discrepancies apparently, possibly because people sent packets only to Ryan. I will sync with him for a fully updated list.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Mike Bentley » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:52 am

The last deadline before you have to pay the full fee is 7/4. Don't ruin your Fourth of July by waiting until then to submit your questions.
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Re: Chicago Open 2012 - July 21, 2012

Postby Cheynem » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:42 pm

Do you have the updated list of submitted packets? All of our questions are written and submitted, but I'd like some confirmation to be sure.
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