Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

This forum is for anyone seeking advice on starting a collegiate team, branching out into new types of tournaments, or other "how-to" aspects of collegiate quizbowl.
Post Reply
User avatar
TheCzarMan
Tidus
Posts: 587
Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:29 pm
Location: Bloomfield, New Jersey

Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by TheCzarMan »

I'm curious as to how long/how you begin the process with the college administration to create a Quizbowl club, or any club for that matter. I ask this in the knowledge that more than likely I will not be going to a college with a current QB program, but wish to create one upon entry to a school. However, I have no clue where to begin, I mean I know about the recruiting and stuff, asking local HS coaches who matriculated there, but what about actually being recognized, getting funding, etc.
Nick Petrilli
Bloomfield High School 2009
Freelance/Mercenary Moderator, TD, Player, and Reader
User avatar
Matt Weiner
Sin
Posts: 8148
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:34 pm
Location: Richmond, VA

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by Matt Weiner »

Each school will have something called the "Student Activities Office" or the "Student Club Board" or something along those lines. You'll want to find their website and look for the general directions on registering a new organization. This will let you reserve rooms for practices and tournaments and also request funding. At most places, you will not get very much money nor will it be given in a prompt fashion (at best, you can plan for some long-term expenses such as buying buzzer systems) so you will look mainly to running tournaments to fund your activities. Some places will also let you rent university vehicles for free or for reduced cost if you are a registered club; others do not offer this service, or make it of limited value by requiring drivers to be 21.
Matt Weiner
Advisor to Quizbowl at Virginia Commonwealth University / Founder of hsquizbowl.org
User avatar
First Chairman
Auron
Posts: 3651
Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2003 8:21 pm
Location: Fairfax VA
Contact:

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by First Chairman »

Depends on whether you need a budget, need official university recognition, and require a staff/faculty advisor.
Emil Thomas Chuck, Ph.D.
Founder, PACE
Facebook junkie and unofficial advisor to aspiring health professionals in quiz bowl
---
Pimping Green Tea Ginger Ale (Canada Dry)
User avatar
Ondes Martenot
Tidus
Posts: 688
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:06 pm
Location: Troy, N.Y.

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by Ondes Martenot »

As someone who is currently involved in starting a team, here's what I did
1. Talk to union/person involved in forming new clubs
2. Post flyers around campus (lie and say they'll be food to get more to show up)
3. Hold organizational meetings, introduce everyone to quizbowl
4. Present to union board and hope they approve
5. Hopefully get some money
6. Attend tournaments

I'm sure the process varies from school to school, but as long as you start early and are patient, you can start a successful team. Hope that helps
Aaron Cohen, Bergen County Academies '08, RPI '12, NYU-???, NAQT writer, HSAPQ writer, PACE writer
User avatar
Maxwell Sniffingwell
Auron
Posts: 2164
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:22 pm
Location: Des Moines, IA

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by Maxwell Sniffingwell »

aarcoh wrote:2. Post flyers around campus (lie and say they'll be food to get more to show up)
YOU'LL BE FOOD.

Also, lying: not a good start. Actually bring food.
Last edited by Maxwell Sniffingwell on Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Greg Peterson

Northwestern University '18
Lawrence University '11
Maine South HS '07

"a decent player" - Mike Cheyne
User avatar
Maxwell Sniffingwell
Auron
Posts: 2164
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:22 pm
Location: Des Moines, IA

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by Maxwell Sniffingwell »

aarcoh wrote: 6. Attend tournaments
3. Hold organizational meetings, introduce everyone to quizbowl
2. Post flyers around campus
1. Talk to union/person involved in forming new clubs
4. Present to union board and hope they approve
5. Hopefully get some money
Serious answer now: this is how I did it.
Greg Peterson

Northwestern University '18
Lawrence University '11
Maine South HS '07

"a decent player" - Mike Cheyne
User avatar
Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Chairman of Anti-Music Mafia Committee
Posts: 5647
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:46 pm

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) »

Yeah, it's not that hard to just go out and buy some cookies and a 12 pack and bring them into the first couple meetings. Lying isn't cool.
Charlie Dees, North Kansas City HS '08
"I won't say more because I know some of you parse everything I say." - Jeremy Gibbs

"At one TJ tournament the neg prize was the Hampshire College ultimate frisbee team (nude) calender featuring one Evan Silberman. In retrospect that could have been a disaster." - Harry White
User avatar
Golran
Auron
Posts: 1048
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:23 am
Location: Southern California

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by Golran »

I'm beginning the process of forming Club Quizbowl through the competitive sports office for better funding and facilities. Does anybody have experience with this type of thing? Basically we are planning on having The College Bowl Club at UCLA through ASUCLA be a group of people that get together to discuss quizbowl type things, and the UCLA Club Quizbowl be a group of people that compete at tournaments, even though they would essentially be the same members. We may eventually phase out of the College Bowl Club at UCLA part depending on our funding through the competitive sports office, but for now not in the agenda.

Any advice here?
Drayer the Slayer
currently unaffiliated
User avatar
Terrible Shorts Depot
Yuna
Posts: 760
Joined: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:05 pm

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by Terrible Shorts Depot »

I obviously have no experience with your situation, Ian, but, just looking at it from the perspective of tight fisted administrators, I'm not sure if that will work. I could see them saying, "Why do you need two clubs, when you could just combine them?". If you have a really good rationale for that, you should be fine. You should definitely give it a go either way.
Charlie Rosenthal
Shady Side Academy '09
Carleton College '13
University of Pennsylvania '18
User avatar
Important Bird Area
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 6136
Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:33 pm
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Contact:

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by Important Bird Area »

I can't imagine why you'd need two different entities like that. (Compare, for instance, the constitution of Berkeley's club, also within the UC system.)
Jeff Hoppes
President, Northern California Quiz Bowl Alliance
former HSQB Chief Admin (2012-13)
VP for Communication and history subject editor, NAQT
Editor emeritus, ACF

"I wish to make some kind of joke about Jeff's love of birds, but I always fear he'll turn them on me Hitchcock-style." -Fred
User avatar
Golran
Auron
Posts: 1048
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:23 am
Location: Southern California

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by Golran »

The main point would be so that we could get more funding, and maintain some funding for next year when we would be a "provisional" club sport which receives 0 funding from the school.
Drayer the Slayer
currently unaffiliated
User avatar
Important Bird Area
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 6136
Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:33 pm
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Contact:

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by Important Bird Area »

If you're in a more solvent part of the UC system that can afford meaningful funding for quizbowl, then multiply whatever entities you need and count your blessings!
Jeff Hoppes
President, Northern California Quiz Bowl Alliance
former HSQB Chief Admin (2012-13)
VP for Communication and history subject editor, NAQT
Editor emeritus, ACF

"I wish to make some kind of joke about Jeff's love of birds, but I always fear he'll turn them on me Hitchcock-style." -Fred
User avatar
cvdwightw
Auron
Posts: 3291
Joined: Tue May 13, 2003 12:46 am
Location: Southern CA
Contact:

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by cvdwightw »

As I've stated multiple times, UCLA's club gets zero - zip - nada - even when we know people in student government. It looks like Ian's trying to take the club in a new direction and put it under the "Club Sports" banner rather than the general "Clubs" banner. To do this, they would need to form a new club and justify it as a sport (to, in the future, receive funding to compete at tournaments and such).

Ian, if you do end up getting this through UCLA, share how you do it with the rest of us - my guess is that the more clubs that are able to form through a club sports office, the more money we'll all be able to get.
Dwight Wynne
socalquizbowl.org
UC Irvine 2008-2013; UCLA 2004-2007; Capistrano Valley High School 2000-2003

"It's a competition, but it's not a sport. On a scale, if football is a 10, then rowing would be a two. One would be Quiz Bowl." --Matt Birk on rowing, SI On Campus, 10/21/03

"If you were my teammate, I would have tossed your ass out the door so fast you'd be emitting Cerenkov radiation, but I'm not classy like Dwight." --Jerry
User avatar
Golran
Auron
Posts: 1048
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:23 am
Location: Southern California

Re: Detailed step by step on forming the club itself?

Post by Golran »

Just bumping to say that I put in the application for club sports last week, as I had missed the deadline the last 2 years (Just totally forgot), and should find out by the end of March at the latest if we are becoming a club sport. All that was involved for us was filling out a packet with a mission statement, general information, and a proposed budget showing that we would be profitable, and now we'll be reviewed by Competitive Sports Office and decision/meetings will occur and then we should be a club sport. If all goes well, who knows - the next UCLA quizbowl tournament may be held in a gym with game rooms being racquetball courts (surprisingly good at insulating sound).
Drayer the Slayer
currently unaffiliated
Post Reply