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HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:52 pm
by AKKOLADE
I've been working on a non-quiz bowl project and am trying to finish that.

Since it's October 8th, doing pre-season rankings doesn't seem to make much sense.

You can expect rankings to begin around the start of November.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Will Happen

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:07 am
by AKKOLADE
I just finished writing my non-quiz bowl project that was keeping me from working on the rankings.

This year's first set of rankings will be done by the end of this month.

Thanks to everyone for your patience.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:38 am
by AKKOLADE
Stats have begun to be collected. Thank you for your patience.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:08 pm
by AKKOLADE
Here are all of the tournaments that I have stats for. If you have high school teams at college tournament stats, please let me know about those.

Acton-Boxborough Winter
Aggie Academic Challenge
AQA November
AQA October
AQA Season Introductory
Arcadia Carnel Embrace
Beavercreek Fall
Bellarmine ACF Fall
Boise State Treasure Valley
Brainbusters Fall
C. E. Byrd Fall
California Cup 1 - Competitive
Canyon Crest Powered Points - Varsity
Carleton Sublunary
CATT @ Chattahoochee
Cavalier Classic
Cave Spring Invitational
Centennial Invitational
Central Mass Academic Tournament
Central Methodist University Fall
Cerebral Weevil
Citronaut Invitational
Class Act Invitational
Classical Prep Semi-Annual
Clemson Tigertown
Clever Invitational
Columbia Fall - National
Columbia Fall - Standard
Columbian Exposition
Cougar Invitational
Davis Classic
Del Norte Edgehog
Downingtown East Invitational - Experienced
Dragon invitational
East Palestine
Eureka Season Opener
Florida Gateway Open
Gahanna Invitational
Georgetown Fall
Georgetown Winter
GINVIT
Give Thanks for Matt's Buzzers
Glasgow Scottie
Glendale Fall Invitational
Golden Eagle Bowl
Governor's School Invitational
Grapes of Smath
Hallsville Fall
Harvard Fall
Henderson Invitational
HFT @ Auburn - Competitive
HFT @ Auburn - Standard
Hicksville Invitational
High Point Central
Holt Winter
Hoover Invitational
Houston Fall - Competitive
Houston Fall - Standard
IHSSBCA Kickoff @ Belvidere
IHSSBCA Kickoff @ Mattoon
IHSSBCA Kickoff @ Piasa
IHSSBCA Kickoff @ Springfield
IHSSBCA Kickoff @ Stevenson Lower
IHSSBCA Kickoff @ Stevenson Upper
Indiana Kick-Off
IQBLT Fall Open @ Waukee
Itawamba Invitational
Jan Rademacher Memorial
John Schudel Memorial
Johns Hopkins Fall
Kentucky Fall
Kickapoo Scholar Bowl
Kuala Lumpur Fall
L. L. Lewis Cup
Las Vegas Quiz Bowl Alliance
Lee's Summit West Titan
Legion Memorial
LIFT XVIII
Louisiana Tech Winter
LSU Spooktacular
Lusher Invitational
Mandarin Fall
Manheim Township
Miami Valley School Kickoff - HS
Michigan Autumn
Michigan State Fall Kickoff
Michigan State Harvard
Michigan Tech Blizzard Bowl
Mike Hendricks Memorial
Missouri Fall
MIT Fall
MOQBA Fall
Mount Carmel Invitational
Mustang Invitational
New Trier Standard
New Trier Varsity Competitive
Northern Kentucky Quizbowl League
Oklahoma Early Fall
Olympian Academic SoCal Showdown - HS
Phillips Academy Winter
Philly Fall
Pioneer Invitational
Plymouth Regional 2
Pretzel I
Princeton High
Quaker Bowl
Quaker Fall Open National
Quaker Fall Open Standard
RIFT @ Rice
Rowdy Raider Varsity
Russell Invitational
Sacramento Fall
SAGACITY
Scarlet Knight Invitational - Main Division
Secret City Classic
Shanghai Fall
Singapore American Fall
Singapore Open
Siouxper Bowl XV
SOCIAL
Solon Fall
South Carolina Fall
South Shelby Winter Invitational
Southwestern by Northeastern
Sparta Fall
SPOOKY
Swim n Win
Sylcauga Aggie invitational
Tal Atkins Memorial
Three Trails Tournament
Tippecanoe Academic Challenge
Tornado Invitational
TQBA Alamo City
TQBA Bayou City Jamboree - HS
TQBA Bayou City Jamboree - MS
TQBA Hornet Hullabaloo IV
TQBA Houston Holiday Hoedown
TQBA Kickoff Classic
TQBA Panther Parley
TQBA Turkey Bash
Tri-State Tussle IV
UIUC ACF Fall
UIUC Earlybird
UW Fall Classic
Vermont Pre-Holiday
Virginia Tech Kick-Off
Washington Fall
Washington High Invitational
Waynedale Invitational
West Point Kickoff
West Point Quiz Bowl
Wisconsin Fall
Xavier French Quarter Kickoff - Varsity
Yale Fall

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:09 pm
by db0wman
Montgomery Blair and Ed Clark played on the online SGI mirror.

http://hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/55 ... eamdetail/

EDIT: It also looks like you don't have Penn Bowl's main site or the SGI main site.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:38 pm
by jonathanshauf

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:59 pm
by joshxu
I don't see Triton Fall at UCSD on there (HS tournament).
http://hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/53 ... /combined/

A shorthanded CCA A team played ACF Fall at UCLA.
http://hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/53 ... detail/#t0

Saratoga played Penn Bowl at Stanford.
http://hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/52 ... /combined/

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:48 am
by AKKOLADE
I've added all of those and have tried to find all the other Sun God/Penn Bowl/ACF Fall high school teams. I have one EFT stat line, so that tournament will likely not have an adjustment.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:02 am
by Monstruos de Bolsillo
AKKOLADE wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:48 am
I have one EFT stat line, so that tournament will likely not have an adjustment.
Quaker Fall Open IV used EFT for the Nationals Division.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:25 pm
by AKKOLADE
Monstruos de Bolsillo wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:02 am
AKKOLADE wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:48 am
I have one EFT stat line, so that tournament will likely not have an adjustment.
Quaker Fall Open IV used EFT for the Nationals Division.
I had that down correctly, I just forgot.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:11 pm
by Bensonfan23
LASA A played Penn Bowl at the Texas mirror (http://hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/53 ... ete_stats/). Taylor and Strake Jesuit played Sun God at the UT Austin mirror (http://hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/53 ... /combined/

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:08 pm
by AKKOLADE

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:09 pm
by AKKOLADE
The midseason rankings - a full 200 teams - are up on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/posts/midseason-top-1-24174216. You can get early access to this set of rankings, and every other, for just $5/month.

The rankings will be publicly posted on hsqbrank.com at noon on Friday.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:03 pm
by AKKOLADE

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:23 pm
by AKKOLADE

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:18 pm
by AKKOLADE

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 8:40 pm
by AKKOLADE
My hopeful schedule for the final rankings & All-World rankings:

By Tuesday: Release full rankings
Wednesday: Announce All-World Player of the Year & First Team
Thursday: Announce All-World Second Team
Friday: Announce All-World Honorable Mention Team

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 8:43 pm
by AKKOLADE
I'll keep an updated list of adjustments here.

To do: none

Sets not being included: PSACA (not enough stats)

Sorted alphabetically:

A sets -3.21
ACF Fall 3.33
ATHENA 2.1
BHSAT 3.27
Blair Bowl 2.17
BLISS 0.38
CAST -0.65
EFT 7.67
FST 3.80
HFT 1.88
ILLIAC 5.13
MSNCT18 -2.34
Penn Bowl 8.70
Prison Bowl 3.40
Reinstein 1.59
RMBAT 2.30
SCOP -7.41
Scottie 1.21
SCTD2 2.47
SSNCT18 1.02
SSNCT19 0.07
Sun God 9.59
Terrapin 8.30
WHAQ 1.07

Sorted by adjustment

Sun God 9.59
Penn Bowl 8.70
Terrapin 8.30
EFT 7.67
ILLIAC 5.13
FST 3.80
Prison Bowl 3.40
ACF Fall 3.33
BHSAT 3.27
SCTD2 2.47
RMBAT 2.30
Blair Bowl 2.17
ATHENA 2.10
HFT 1.88
Reinstein 1.59
Scottie 1.21
WHAQ 1.07
SSNCT18 1.02
BLISS 0.38
SSNCT19 0.07
CAST -0.65
MSNCT18 -2.34
A sets -3.21
SCOP -7.41

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:59 pm
by AKKOLADE
I've updated the above post with a few additional adjustments I've calculated.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:50 am
by 1992 in spaceflight
AKKOLADE wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 9:59 pm
I've updated the above post with a few additional adjustments I've calculated.
I'm curious as to why WHAQ isn't on your list?

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 6:40 am
by AKKOLADE
Because I haven’t got to it yet.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:42 pm
by AKKOLADE
I've done everything except for A-sets.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 1:22 am
by AKKOLADE
The A-set adjustment is now complete.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 1:12 pm
by ansonberns
AKKOLADE wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 8:40 pm
Wednesday: Announce All-World Player of the Year & First Team
Thursday: Announce All-World Second Team
Friday: Announce All-World Honorable Mention Team
Is it intentional that the All-World teams are in reverse order from usual?

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 1:27 pm
by Progcon
Can you please post the code you used to calculate these adjustments and rankings? I think this work should be easily reproducible to make sure it is 100 percent accurate.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:50 pm
by AKKOLADE
ansonberns wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 1:12 pm

Is it intentional that the All-World teams are in reverse order from usual?
Yes.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:57 pm
by AKKOLADE
Progcon wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 1:27 pm
Can you please post the code you used to calculate these adjustments and rankings? I think this work should be easily reproducible to make sure it is 100 percent accurate.
It’s not code, it’s an Excel sheet where I hand calculate the adjustments. I’d be happy to post the stats I have collected, though.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 10:47 pm
by Progcon
AKKOLADE wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 5:57 pm
Progcon wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 1:27 pm
Can you please post the code you used to calculate these adjustments and rankings? I think this work should be easily reproducible to make sure it is 100 percent accurate.
It’s not code, it’s an Excel sheet where I hand calculate the adjustments. I’d be happy to post the stats I have collected, though.
I'd like to have the Excel sheet thank you.

In the future, I'd recommend doing any statistical calculations in a modern language like R or Stata. It's a lot easier to replicate work there as Excel syntax can get long. Excel is not build for statistical analysis and it certainly is not good for database work. A modern statistical language can allow the workflow to also be seamlessly integrated with a web scraper or html/json reader which will allow the workflow to scale. Ideally, something like R can make the data look "tidy" as each row of the data will be one team-tournament performance (e.g. Id: Central High School || Kickoff Tournament) and you can run a query down the names to compile season long stats.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 11:42 pm
by AKKOLADE
Thanks for the public lecture on how I’m doing my work wrong without even seeing what that work is, I guess??

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:46 am
by Progcon
AKKOLADE wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:42 pm
Thanks for the public lecture on how I’m doing my work wrong without even seeing what that work is, I guess??
I don't believe this level of sarcasm is warranted when I used the word "recommend." I think me and the rest of the community want HSQBRank to keep happening in the future, and I think we are entitled to offer meager suggestions.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 1:38 pm
by AKKOLADE

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:06 pm
by AKKOLADE
Here's the stats file.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:52 pm
by ansonberns
Thanks for all the work Fred!

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:06 pm
by AKKOLADE
No problem!

All-World teams will be coming in the next few days.

Re: HSQBRank 2018-19: Is Happening

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:05 pm
by AKKOLADE