Eyes That Do Not See III

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Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:50 am

This is a preliminary announcement for Eyes That Do Not See III. Like the two previous versions of this tournament, it will consist of about 100 visual arts tossups presented as pyramidal PowerPoint slides. The tournament will cost $5 to play/mirror. I'll probably have it finished by Minnesota Open, but that's not 100% guaranteed.

I haven't picked a ton of answers yet so I can't say what the difficulty will be, but it likely won't be any harder than Eyes II.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:57 pm

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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:31 pm

If anyone can give me their ArtStor access that would be a huge help towards getting this tournament completed. Send me an e-mail at bentley.michael.j@gmail.com.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:03 pm

Mike Bentley wrote:If anyone can give me their ArtStor access that would be a huge help towards getting this tournament completed. Send me an e-mail at bentley.michael.j@gmail.com.


Thanks, I was able to get access.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby gyre and gimble » Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:14 am

How's the progress on this?
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:49 am

gyre and gimble wrote:How's the progress on this?


It's about 60% complete.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:59 pm

I now have almost all of this tournament "written" and am in the process of compiling it into PowerPoint. I think my prediction of it being no harder than last year (and probably a little easier) will hold true.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:02 pm

The tournament is now finished. It's being mirrored at the Minnesota, Penn and possibly UCSD mirrors of Minnesota Open. If any other tournaments want to mirror it, let me know.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:29 am

At the Minnesota site, Douglas Graebner demolished everyone. I believe Ike got a distant second.

I don't think there are any other mirrors. I'll try to post this later this week after correcting a few mistakes.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Matt Weiner » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:31 am

At the Penn site, Chris Ray beat Jonathan Magin on the last tossup when, going in tied, Jonathan yelled out an answer after someone else had buzzed and was duly negged. I believe Ted Gioia was third and I was fourth. A good time was had by all.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:36 am

By the way, there are like 10 extra trash questions that will be included in the download.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Charbroil » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:43 am

Is there a place where all three iterations of this event can be found?
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Cody » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:46 am

Charbroil wrote:Is there a place where all three iterations of this event can be found?

are you literally incapable of reading
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Charbroil » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:48 am

SirT wrote:
Charbroil wrote:Is there a place where all three iterations of this event can be found?

are you literally incapable of reading
Mike Bentley wrote:I'll try to post this later this week after correcting a few mistakes.


Sorry, I mean, will be found (or, you know, a location that the two previous incarnations can be found).
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Papa's in the House » Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:27 pm

Charbroil wrote:
SirT wrote:
Charbroil wrote:Is there a place where all three iterations of this event can be found?

are you literally incapable of reading
Mike Bentley wrote:I'll try to post this later this week after correcting a few mistakes.


Sorry, I mean, will be found (or, you know, a location that the two previous incarnations can be found).

I would be very surprised if a link was not posted in this thread since Mike already posted links for the previous two iterations in this thread.

EDIT: negation words, bleh
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Charbroil » Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:25 pm

Papa's in the House wrote:
Charbroil wrote:
SirT wrote:
Charbroil wrote:Is there a place where all three iterations of this event can be found?

are you literally incapable of reading
Mike Bentley wrote:I'll try to post this later this week after correcting a few mistakes.


Sorry, I mean, will be found (or, you know, a location that the two previous incarnations can be found).

I would be very surprised if a link was not posted in this thread since Mike already posted links for the previous two iterations in this thread.

EDIT: negation words, bleh


Sorry, I see that now.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby itsthatoneguy » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:04 am

I thought this was a fantastic tournament. This was the first time I got to play it with a decent amount of people, so I had a ton of fun. Congratulations to Doug; he is beast at this format.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:50 am

I am mirroring BARGE in January, would you be opposed to us mirroring this? (Even if you post it online we can still just ask people not read it and be honest since it's a side event I guess, I just wanted to make sure you'd be OK with us doing that.)
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby at your pleasure » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:09 pm

I'd been looking forward to playing this for a while and it lived up to expectations. Thanks to Mike for writing this and Minnesota for hosting this.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:13 pm

College Park Spyders wrote:I am mirroring BARGE in January, would you be opposed to us mirroring this? (Even if you post it online we can still just ask people not read it and be honest since it's a side event I guess, I just wanted to make sure you'd be OK with us doing that.)


Yeah you guys can do this, although I will be posting the set and opening it up for discussion.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby gyre and gimble » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:17 pm

I might want to do something similar at our SCT, but I'm not sure how much interest there is since Yale's probably already played it.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Cheynem » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:24 pm

This was another typically fine set--I'm sure Mike noticed it when running it but there were occasionally a few misplaced slides (like a slide repeating itself or the giveaway slide coming too early).

I'd like to see a set that tries to ask different sorts of questions visually. You could potentially do some questions involving political cartoons or historical illustrations or portions of photographs (like, I dunno, a tossup on the photograph of Oswald getting shot, or of LBJ being sworn in).
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Adventure Temple Trail » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:28 pm

gyre and gimble wrote:I might want to do something similar at our SCT, but I'm not sure how much interest there is since Yale's probably already played it.


Actually, we had to run right after the finals, so we missed this. I, for one, would be interested.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:32 pm

Cheynem wrote:I'd like to see a set that tries to ask different sorts of questions visually. You could potentially do some questions involving political cartoons or historical illustrations or portions of photographs (like, I dunno, a tossup on the photograph of Oswald getting shot, or of LBJ being sworn in).


I think you'd find that a tournament like this would have to have a weird distribution in order to work. It would probably reward weird types of knowledge like knowing what a historical figure looked like and would have to rely way more on things like political cartoons than a regular history tournament would. I'd certainly play such a tournament if someone wrote it, but I think it would take a long time to think of topics and then find images that work well in this format. Even with art it's sort of hard (I'll elaborate on some of the shortcomings of this tournament in a later thread).
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Cheynem » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:33 pm

Yeah, it certainly would have to have a weird distribution. I might take a whack at it at some point because I don't like distributions anyway and spend a lot of time staring at historical photographs.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Sima Guang Hater » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:04 pm

This tournament was a delight to play, and I'm very glad that Matt Weiner and Chris Ray insisted that it occur after a very long day. Thanks very much for writing it; I especially liked the questions on Rem Koolhaas and the Stata Center (which both Ted and I negged even after spending time inside it).
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby gyre and gimble » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:46 pm

Could a separate thread be made for discussing this? It doesn't have to be private or anything, but I've accidentally just discovered that Rem Koolhaas came up in this set.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:57 pm

gyre and gimble wrote:Could a separate thread be made for discussing this? It doesn't have to be private or anything, but I've accidentally just discovered that Rem Koolhaas came up in this set.


Done.
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Re: Eyes That Do Not See III

Postby Mike Bentley » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:33 am

Sorry for the super long delay. The set can be found at http://doc-ent.com/EyesIIIa/Eyes%20III%20Fixed.zip. Be warned it's a very large download.
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