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2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by Deviant Insider » Tue May 11, 2010 4:04 pm

EDIT: From now on, use the calendar on the IHSSBCA website.

2010-11 Tournaments
9/18
9/25 SchoBowlFest
10/2
10/9
10/16
10/23 UIUC Earlybird (confirmed), Orion Varsity
10/30 SCOP
11/6 IHSSBCA Kickoffs (Greenville, PORTA, Wheaton North confirmed)
11/13 Loyburn (confirmed), Moline Frosh/Soph (confirmed), Kaneland Frosh/Soph (confirmed)
11/20 New Trier/PORTA Scobol Solo (confirmed), Rock Island Varsity, Armstrong Frosh/Soph (confirmed), PAWAC International Bowl (confirmed)
11/27 Thanksgiving
12/4 Decemberist at NIU (confirmed), River City V/JV
12/11 Harvard Mirror at Auburn, PORTA Frosh/Soph
12/18 New Trier Varsity (confirmed)
12/25 Christmas
1/1 New Years
1/8 IHSSBCA Turnabouts (Fenton & Greenville confirmed), Auburn Frosh/Soph & Varsity Novice (confirmed), Sterling Varsity, Macomb Rotary (confirmed)
1/15 IMSA Varsity, Winnebago Varsity, Kaneland Varsity (confirmed)
1/22 Loyola Ultima (confirmed), Fremd V/FS (confirmed), Peoria Heights Class A (confirmed), Springfield V/FS (confirmed)
1/29 Wheaton North Frosh/Soph (confirmed), Sterling Frosh/Soph, PORTA Class A (confirmed), WUHSAC, Culver V/FS (confirmed)
2/5 Huskie Bowl, Streator Rotary (confirmed)
2/12 Northwestern Wildcat (confirmed), Galesburg Rotary, Greenville Comet
2/19 Masonic Sectionals (confirmed)
2/26 NAQT State (confirmed), Carmel Frosh/Soph, Orion Frosh/Soph
3/5 Masonic State, Homewood-Flossmoor Varsity
3/7 IHSA Regionals (confirmed)
3/12 IHSA Sectionals (confirmed)
3/18 IHSA State (confirmed)
4/23 NIU ATROPHY (confirmed)

I will try to keep this updated for the near future. Keep in mind that the unconfirmed stuff is unconfirmed and that changes/additions/subtractions are going to happen.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by Dresden_The_BIG_JERK » Tue May 11, 2010 4:22 pm

Wow...1/15 is really full of proximal tournaments.
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Post by Irreligion in Bangladesh » Tue May 11, 2010 4:33 pm

Go ahead and confirm Decemberist IV at NIU for 12/4.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by TheDoctor » Tue May 11, 2010 4:37 pm

We're in the planning stages of a statewide tournament on 30 October to raise funds for SCOP (Scholastic Community Outreach Program).
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by Dan-Don » Tue May 11, 2010 5:30 pm

The biggest concern I have is the lack of October tournaments. I think it's great that Ultima will be in January (to compete with Fremd as well as give more time for Nolan to put together a good set), but I think Mr. Riley should seriously consider putting Loyburn in October.

I also have to find an optimal date for Jr. Wildcat based on this. Any thoughts? What's more, maybe I can also get the NU guys to host another high school tournament earlier in the season.

What are the current plans for a question provider for Turnabout?

What format/set will be used at IMSA Varsity?

Finally, I've been toying around with the idea for a while now of stepping up to write a tossups-only solo tournament for post-NAQT State play to replace the fine event that Donald put on in the past. I'm going to go ahead and email Mr. Laudermith.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by dtaylor4 » Tue May 11, 2010 5:39 pm

Dan-Don wrote:The biggest concern I have is the lack of October tournaments. I think it's great that Ultima will be in January (to compete with Fremd as well as give more time for Nolan to put together a good set), but I think Mr. Riley should seriously consider putting Loyburn in October.
FYI, any such tournament in October will compete against three college tournaments.

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Post by Dan-Don » Tue May 11, 2010 5:41 pm

dtaylor4 wrote:
Dan-Don wrote:The biggest concern I have is the lack of October tournaments. I think it's great that Ultima will be in January (to compete with Fremd as well as give more time for Nolan to put together a good set), but I think Mr. Riley should seriously consider putting Loyburn in October.
FYI, any such tournament in October will compete against three college tournaments.
Oh very true. Well let's shelve that idea for now.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by Irreligion in Bangladesh » Tue May 11, 2010 6:05 pm

There are EFT and ACF Fall (which I recommend for any and all high school teams, as long as they don't crowd out college teams from the field), but what's the third?
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Post by jonah » Tue May 11, 2010 6:06 pm

ACF Novice, which high school teams may not play.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by Irreligion in Bangladesh » Tue May 11, 2010 6:11 pm

jonah wrote:ACF Novice, which high school teams may not play.
I thought that was September-ish? At any rate, September is still open, too.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by Dan-Don » Tue May 11, 2010 6:42 pm

I don't know who from ACF would make this decision, but it would be very cool if Loyburn could happen in October as a high schools-only mirror of ACF Fall.
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Post by dtaylor4 » Tue May 11, 2010 6:44 pm

jonah wrote:ACF Novice, which high school teams may not play.
Wrong. This is the MCMNT, which was moved to the fall, and is being written in-house. High school teams can play, but absolutely no superteams.

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Post by Deviant Insider » Tue May 11, 2010 6:46 pm

Turnabout will be an A Set, and IMSA is planning a housewrite.
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Post by David Riley » Tue May 11, 2010 6:53 pm

I would be happy to move Loyburn to the Fall, and that was my original intent, but Ms. Greene needs a voice in that decision as well. We would try to host it on a weekend that doesn't compete with a college tournament.
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Post by David Riley » Tue May 11, 2010 6:56 pm

And...as I'm doing Ultima on 1/22 I cannot do Loyburn on 1/29, it will have to be moved to another date.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by Irreligion in Bangladesh » Tue May 11, 2010 7:04 pm

Loyburn in October would be very nice, at the very least because it opens up the possibility that Huskie Bowl might move to that date and avoid the probable moderators conflict with SCT.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by Dominator » Tue May 11, 2010 7:16 pm

I have the building at IMSA reserved for 1-15, but I might be able to reschedule if I act soon. October 16, October 23, or November 13 would probably work for us also. Thoughts?

EDIT: Added a date.
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Post by Irreligion in Bangladesh » Tue May 11, 2010 7:21 pm

Dominator wrote:I have the building at IMSA reserved for 1-15, but I might be able to reschedule if I act soon. October 16 or November 13 would probably work for us also. Thoughts?
Right now, 1/15 is actually optimal for IMSA's tourney - it's a housewrite, so January gives you more time to write, and it competes against Winnebago - no overlap team-wise, I guarantee it - and Kaneland, who has historically used terrible, TERRIBLE questions. I strongly support competing against Kaneland's tournament as it stands now, unless we hear from Coach Dentino that they're switching providers.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

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styxman wrote:it competes against Winnebago - no overlap team-wise, I guarantee it
I might be missing something here, but why not? All I know of Bago's lineup this spring is the top 4 finishers (Auburn A and B, Bettendorf, and Dwight), but they did use an NAQT set, so presumably there would be some potential overlap. Amirite?
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Post by CometCoach72 » Tue May 11, 2010 7:32 pm

Feb 12 for the Comet Open is unlikely to be confirmed until start of the 2010-2011 school year.

I'm also wanting to add a Frosh-Soph tournament in either October or November for Greenville. This is just in the idea stage, more details to come.
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TheDoctor wrote:We're in the planning stages of a statewide tournament on 30 October to raise funds for SCOP (Scholastic Community Outreach Program).
Is there any more information on this?
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Dominator wrote:
TheDoctor wrote:We're in the planning stages of a statewide tournament on 30 October to raise funds for SCOP (Scholastic Community Outreach Program).
Is there any more information on this?
More information on SCOP or the 10/30 tournament?
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styxman wrote:More information on SCOP or the 10/30 tournament?
Both. My attempt to google "Scholastic Community Outreach Program" failed. Also, I like tourneys.
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Post by Dan-Don » Tue May 11, 2010 8:31 pm

Dominator wrote:I have the building at IMSA reserved for 1-15, but I might be able to reschedule if I act soon. October 16, October 23, or November 13 would probably work for us also. Thoughts?

EDIT: Added a date.
Are you guys gonna be able to write a tournament's worth of questions by October?
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Dan-Don wrote:Are you guys gonna be able to write a tournament's worth of questions by October?
IDK. I'm just trying to be accommodating. With Brad's blessing, though, I guess I'll stay at January 15.
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Post by Dan-Don » Tue May 11, 2010 8:39 pm

Dominator wrote:
Dan-Don wrote:Are you guys gonna be able to write a tournament's worth of questions by October?
IDK. I'm just trying to be accommodating. With Brad's blessing, though, I guess I'll stay at January 15.
Well hey if you did, that'd be great. We need housewritten sets early in the season. I was just a little nervous considering this would be a first for everyone over at IMSA.
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Dominator wrote:
styxman wrote:it competes against Winnebago - no overlap team-wise, I guarantee it
I might be missing something here, but why not? All I know of Bago's lineup this spring is the top 4 finishers (Auburn A and B, Bettendorf, and Dwight), but they did use an NAQT set, so presumably there would be some potential overlap. Amirite?
Bago hasn't pulled anyone east of Rockford in years - by choice, not by lack of interest. They cap out at 20 to 24 teams, based on moderator availability, and they strive to bring in smaller teams from the local areas - conferences like the Big Northern, NUIC, Three Rivers, and the like, and that fills up the field on its own.

The only teams I can think of that would find this conflicting are Dwight and Auburn. Dwight only attended Winnebago this past year, so it's not like they're a traditional team here - with IMSA considerably closer, there should be no real problem with that. Auburn has attended Winnebago for years - primarily for location, as it's nice to have a 6 minute drive to a tournament, but also recently because Winnebago uses good questions. On the other hand, because Bago doesn't attract any other top caliber teams, Auburn A has been supremely ahead of the rest of the field. Playing IMSA's field instead would serve them better, probably while other Auburn students take advantage of the close Winnebago tourney as well.

I should mention that I don't really speak for Winnebago, but I am 99.9% sure that they'd agree with this.
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styxman wrote:More information on SCOP or the 10/30 tournament?
Both. My attempt to google "Scholastic Community Outreach Program" failed. Also, I like tourneys.
As the name suggests, SCOP is a program to improve qb teams on the outskirts of the circuit - helping schools start teams and helping growing teams become more involved. It's Kristin's thing, so I'll let her fully explain (in a separate forthcoming thread) the plans and ideas she's got brewing for it -- with one exception:

SCOP is planning a statewide mirrored ACF format novice-level tournament on 10/30 to help raise funds for the program, as well as to provide good novice-level competition in the early season. Kristin and I are going to head-write the questions (which will be available for mirroring outside IL, too - announcement of that forthcoming too) with contributions from (so far) Abid, Zahed, Dan-Don, and Greg Dzuricsko/Lisle.

We're hoping for numerous smaller mirrors to attract newer teams with short drive times; for example, NIU is hosting a mirror and a Lisle mirror is almost confirmed, and those two schools are only 45 minutes apart. NIU's mirror is hoping to attract DeKalb, Kaneland, Rochelle, etc., while Lisle's mirror is looking at St. Charles, Wheaton, southwards, etc. If you're interested in hosting a mirror on 10/30, let us know!
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Will there be a novice tournament like this year? Loyola would be willing to host that if St. Viator isn't doing it again.
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styxman wrote: SCOP is planning a statewide mirrored ACF format novice-level tournament on 10/30...
Presumably this would be open to out of state mirrors as well?
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Post by Dan-Don » Wed May 12, 2010 12:56 am

Charbroil wrote:
styxman wrote: SCOP is planning a statewide mirrored ACF format novice-level tournament on 10/30...
Presumably this would be open to out of state mirrors as well?
styxman wrote:SCOP is planning a statewide mirrored ACF format novice-level tournament on 10/30 to help raise funds for the program, as well as to provide good novice-level competition in the early season. Kristin and I are going to head-write the questions (which will be available for mirroring outside IL, too - announcement of that forthcoming too)
So I'm presuming yes.
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styxman wrote:We're hoping for numerous smaller mirrors to attract newer teams with short drive times; for example, NIU is hosting a mirror and a Lisle mirror is almost confirmed, and those two schools are only 45 minutes apart. NIU's mirror is hoping to attract DeKalb, Kaneland, Rochelle, etc., while Lisle's mirror is looking at St. Charles, Wheaton, southwards, etc. If you're interested in hosting a mirror on 10/30, let us know!
It seems you might have our geographical area covered between the two current mirrors, but please let me know if I/IMSA can be of service.
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Dominator wrote:
styxman wrote:We're hoping for numerous smaller mirrors to attract newer teams with short drive times; for example, NIU is hosting a mirror and a Lisle mirror is almost confirmed, and those two schools are only 45 minutes apart. NIU's mirror is hoping to attract DeKalb, Kaneland, Rochelle, etc., while Lisle's mirror is looking at St. Charles, Wheaton, southwards, etc. If you're interested in hosting a mirror on 10/30, let us know!
It seems you might have our geographical area covered between the two current mirrors, but please let me know if I/IMSA can be of service.
If there are any other schools in your conference/geographic area that aren't familiar with the ACF format, you might want to drop them a line and advertise what's going on next year.
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Dan-Don wrote: I also have to find an optimal date for Jr. Wildcat based on this. Any thoughts? What's more, maybe I can also get the NU guys to host another high school tournament earlier in the season.
February 19th; the date of Masonic regionals. You can tap staffers from any HS team that won't play Masonics (e.g. Loyola).
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Post by Dominator » Wed May 19, 2010 9:52 pm

For any Wheaton North lurkers out there, do we know if the same group will be writing the Wheaton North FS next year?
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Post by Dan-Don » Wed May 19, 2010 9:56 pm

Dominator wrote:For any Wheaton North lurkers out there, do we know if the same group will be writing the Wheaton North FS next year?
I'm not so sure that set (the house-written 2010 WN F/S) even exists.

EDIT: Jonah tells me it does. I really wanna see it though!
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Post by Dominator » Wed May 19, 2010 10:14 pm

Dan-Don wrote:EDIT: Jonah tells me it does. I really wanna see it though!
It was a pretty good set from what I remember. Some of the questions were really excellent, so I was a little upset my varsity team didn't get to hear them.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by Edward Elric » Thu May 20, 2010 11:01 am

Dominator wrote:For any Wheaton North lurkers out there, do we know if the same group will be writing the Wheaton North FS next year?
I can't speak for the others but I for sure would love to help write next years set. I'm pretty sure Greg and Jonathan would be down and Sam after some convincing.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by rjaguar3 » Thu May 20, 2010 7:05 pm

Dan-Don wrote:
Dominator wrote:For any Wheaton North lurkers out there, do we know if the same group will be writing the Wheaton North FS next year?
I'm not so sure that set (the house-written 2010 WN F/S) even exists.

EDIT: Jonah tells me it does. I really wanna see it though!
Since I do not believe there will be any more uses of this packet, I just submitted it to quizbowlpackets.com.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by Dominator » Thu May 20, 2010 7:16 pm

rjaguar3 wrote:Since I do not believe there will be any more uses of this packet, I just submitted it to quizbowlpackets.com.
Thanks!

Was this mirrored?
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by rjaguar3 » Fri May 21, 2010 10:39 am

Dominator wrote:
rjaguar3 wrote:Since I do not believe there will be any more uses of this packet, I just submitted it to quizbowlpackets.com.
Thanks!

Was this mirrored?
There was supposedly a mirror at Cary-Grove, but neither Jonah nor I could get any confirmation it ever happened.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by Wackford Squeers » Fri May 28, 2010 11:54 am

I am pleased to report that the John A. Logan tournament is no longer with us. Seems I dealt the general a critical hit.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by David Riley » Fri May 28, 2010 12:10 pm

I'd heard of it, but what was wrong with it? If it was bad quiz bowl, was there any chance of it being changed?
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Post by jonah » Fri May 28, 2010 12:39 pm

Bryce Avery, and statues that were totally asking for it.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by the return of AHAN » Fri May 28, 2010 1:07 pm

jonah wrote:Bryce Avery, and statues that were totally asking for it.
Nice.
BTW, how does one become a member of SCOP? Barrington is interested in sending some teams to NIU unless a closer mirror appears.
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Post by jonah » Fri May 28, 2010 1:26 pm

Not sure; ask Kristin.
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Post by Irreligion in Bangladesh » Fri May 28, 2010 1:42 pm

Moving Day wrote:
jonah wrote:Bryce Avery, and statues that were totally asking for it.
Nice.
BTW, how does one become a member of SCOP? Barrington is interested in sending some teams to NIU unless a closer mirror appears.
In terms of the SCOP Novice, a closer mirror will appear in the near future. Kristin's writing up the SCOP announcement post as we speak; that will hopefully be up later today.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by jonah » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:42 pm

Westwon wrote:11/20...PAWAC International Bowl (confirmed)
What's this?
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Post by Deviant Insider » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:54 pm

PAWAC is the Peoria Area World Affairs Council. The tournament is almost exactly like Science Bowl, including the fact that the winning team qualifies for a national tournament, but the questions are on Current Events, Geography, and perhaps some related topics. It typically attracts about 20 teams, all of them from around Peoria.
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Re: 2010-11 Tournament Schedule

Post by Boeing X-20, Please! » Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:59 pm

Why are Kickoffs on the same date as ACF Fall? This seems very detrimental to team development, as in all likelihood ACF Fall is going to be the better help to teams' [that are of the caliber and motivation to want to go to ACF Fall] development, but these same teams will be discouraged from going by their coaches trying to encourage the IHSSBCA's progress. Is there any way that that Kickoffs could be moved to stop this conflict of interest? Coaches understand Kickoffs are aimed towards attracting newer/less developed teams similar to SCOP, right? IHSSBCA would understand if these teams decided to attend ACF Fall instead of Kickoffs, correct?
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