Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
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Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
La Jolla High School is very excited to announce Rocket Surgery I, an official NAQT tournament for all high school students.
DATE: February 27th, 2010
VENUE: 500 Building of La Jolla High, located at 750 Nautilus St., La Jolla, CA, 92037
SCHEDULE: 7:30-8:30 AM Registration (all teams must be registered by 8:30)
8:30-9:00 AM Moderator Meeting
9:00 AM Tournament Play
FOOD: We will provide breakfast. There are multiple options for lunch near the school.
ELIGIBILITY: Any school that pays the tournament fee is welcome to attend. All players must be in high school.
FORMAT: NAQT Invitational Set IS-92 with untimed rounds. Depending on the number of teams, we may have a complete round robin, possibly followed by a rebracket for playoff rounds.
PRICING: Team Prices and Discounts
$80 per team
$70 for a second team, $60 for any team thereafter
-$5 for a functional buzzer system (four buzzers on each side)
School Discount
-$20 for a school that has not competed in an official NAQT event from July 1st, 2005, to October 28th, 2009.
Minimum fee for a team is $60.
If you cannot have payment for the tournament on competition day, please contact us at least 24 hours before. If you come to the tournament without payment and without warning us of delinquent pay, a $40 fee will be added to the total fee. The payment must then come in 10 business days.
REGISTRATION:
To register, contact Tammy Tran at [email protected] if your school is interested in attending. Please include:
1) the name of your school
2) your coach's name and email address
3) the number of teams you are bringing
4) if you are bringing a buzzer system
5) whether you qualify for the school discount
Contact us if you have any questions. We will update the tournament info as often as we can.
We hope to see you there!
DATE: February 27th, 2010
VENUE: 500 Building of La Jolla High, located at 750 Nautilus St., La Jolla, CA, 92037
SCHEDULE: 7:30-8:30 AM Registration (all teams must be registered by 8:30)
8:30-9:00 AM Moderator Meeting
9:00 AM Tournament Play
FOOD: We will provide breakfast. There are multiple options for lunch near the school.
ELIGIBILITY: Any school that pays the tournament fee is welcome to attend. All players must be in high school.
FORMAT: NAQT Invitational Set IS-92 with untimed rounds. Depending on the number of teams, we may have a complete round robin, possibly followed by a rebracket for playoff rounds.
PRICING: Team Prices and Discounts
$80 per team
$70 for a second team, $60 for any team thereafter
-$5 for a functional buzzer system (four buzzers on each side)
School Discount
-$20 for a school that has not competed in an official NAQT event from July 1st, 2005, to October 28th, 2009.
Minimum fee for a team is $60.
If you cannot have payment for the tournament on competition day, please contact us at least 24 hours before. If you come to the tournament without payment and without warning us of delinquent pay, a $40 fee will be added to the total fee. The payment must then come in 10 business days.
REGISTRATION:
To register, contact Tammy Tran at [email protected] if your school is interested in attending. Please include:
1) the name of your school
2) your coach's name and email address
3) the number of teams you are bringing
4) if you are bringing a buzzer system
5) whether you qualify for the school discount
Contact us if you have any questions. We will update the tournament info as often as we can.
We hope to see you there!
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
It's kind of early for asking this, but how's the field so far?
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
So far we have seven teams signed up. Three from RB, two from Edison, and two from an Arizona school.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Put down Arcadia as interested for 1-4 teams. Exact number TBD
Alex Wang
Arcadia High '10
UCLA '14 or so
Arcadia High '10
UCLA '14 or so
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Are the Arizona teams from Brophy HS?
Lucas Brown
Rancho Bernardo 2011
Caltech 2015
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"If people only knew how hard I work to gain my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful at all." --Michelangelo Buonarroti
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Yes, that's right.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Update: Rocket Surgery I is now PACE-affiliated, and the top two teams will qualify for NSC. We'll also be pursuing a gold-level certification.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Stephen Liu
Torrey Pines '10
Harvard '14
Stanford '17
Torrey Pines '10
Harvard '14
Stanford '17
Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Having not seen the IS-92 packets, I have no idea if his concerns are founded. I just think he is expressing the same concerns we have about any question packet: distribution, depth, difficulty. Yes, there have been times with NAQT that I've been frustrated with certain questions, but there haven't been so many problems that whole matches and tournaments were affected, and I have felt the same frustration at other tournaments with other packets too. I think we can all agree that no packet is perfect, and we feel that NAQT is at the very least passable and at the very most a good question set.
And as to the rest of his complaints about the tournament, we're going to do our best to run a tournament that we would enjoy playing at. There won't be blurt rules or death glares if you confer during the reading of a bonus, and we will do all we can to address each protest. All the readers and moderators will have been active in quiz bowl for some time, so we will all know how to make sure that players aren't punished for the ridiculous little things that seemed to have happened at this Illinois tournament.
Tammy Tran
La Jolla High School '10
La Jolla High School '10
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Sounds good.
Stephen Liu
Torrey Pines '10
Harvard '14
Stanford '17
Torrey Pines '10
Harvard '14
Stanford '17
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Yeah. Obviously, as a Southern California team that competes regularly in the good quizbowl tournaments around here, we've never even had any experience with the blurt rule at a legitimate (viz., not Academic League) tournament, and we're certainly not going to champion it or any of the other vestiges of bad quizbowl about which people have complaints. We're working to make sure our tournament is run as smoothly and as fairly as possible.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
What is the blurt rule? I've come across quite a few mentions of it, but I've never come across a definition.
Lucas Brown
Rancho Bernardo 2011
Caltech 2015
Every day is finals day.
"If people only knew how hard I work to gain my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful at all." --Michelangelo Buonarroti
Rancho Bernardo 2011
Caltech 2015
Every day is finals day.
"If people only knew how hard I work to gain my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful at all." --Michelangelo Buonarroti
Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
The blurt rule discussed there is that if you buzz in but give your answer before the moderator recognizes you by name, you receive 5 points instead of 10 (if you were correct). Hilariously, this is an improvement over the previous rule, which was that "blurted" answers were simply treated as wrong.
Jonah Greenthal
National Academic Quiz Tournaments
National Academic Quiz Tournaments
Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Some strange vestige of Illinois quizbowl that came up because one of the first tournaments to use IS-92 used a strange mixture of standard NAQT and Illinois quizbowl rules.LucasBrown wrote:What is the blurt rule? I've come across quite a few mentions of it, but I've never come across a definition.
As previously noted, it will not be used at this tournament.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Unfortunately, in Academic League, blurted answers are still treated as wrongjonah wrote:The blurt rule discussed there is that if you buzz in but give your answer before the moderator recognizes you by name, you receive 5 points instead of 10 (if you were correct). Hilariously, this is an improvement over the previous rule, which was that "blurted" answers were simply treated as wrong.
David Hu
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Same with Science Bowl. Blurt rule screwed me out of tryouts a few years ago.davud363000 wrote:Unfortunately, in Academic League, blurted answers are still treated as wrongjonah wrote:The blurt rule discussed there is that if you buzz in but give your answer before the moderator recognizes you by name, you receive 5 points instead of 10 (if you were correct). Hilariously, this is an improvement over the previous rule, which was that "blurted" answers were simply treated as wrong.
The worst thing SoCalHSQB has seen in a tournament (in the past 4 years) is single elimination for state champs, where final rankings mattered. There's no reason to think that La Jolla will run anything other than a good tournament under good quiz bowl standards (except for the NAQT distribution thing, but thats not their fault)
Alex Wang
Arcadia High '10
UCLA '14 or so
Arcadia High '10
UCLA '14 or so
Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Oh yeah, if you need a few extra moderators, some of us UCSD people will volunteer to read. We're all very experienced.
Auroni Gupta (she/her)
Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Thanks for the offer, Auroni. We'll let you know at the very latest a week before the tournament if we need more moderators.jpn wrote:Oh yeah, if you need a few extra moderators, some of us UCSD people will volunteer to read. We're all very experienced.
Tammy Tran
La Jolla High School '10
La Jolla High School '10
Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
And we have some from UCI that are experienced, ready, and willilng :)Tammy wrote:Thanks for the offer, Auroni. We'll let you know at the very latest a week before the tournament if we need more moderators.jpn wrote:Oh yeah, if you need a few extra moderators, some of us UCSD people will volunteer to read. We're all very experienced.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
The current field for Rocket Surgery I is
Arcadia x 2 +two buzzer systems
Rancho Bernardo x 3 +one buzzer system
Orange Lutheran x 1
Brophy Prep x 3 +four buzzer systems
Edison x 2 + one buzzer system
North Hollywood x 1 + two buzzer systems
Torrey Pines x 2 + one buzzer system
Bishop's x 2
Capistrano x 1
If there are any changes that need to be made, please let me know by Saturday. We still have room for more teams as well, so any other teams that wish to sign up should tell me by Saturday too.
Arcadia x 2 +two buzzer systems
Rancho Bernardo x 3 +one buzzer system
Orange Lutheran x 1
Brophy Prep x 3 +four buzzer systems
Edison x 2 + one buzzer system
North Hollywood x 1 + two buzzer systems
Torrey Pines x 2 + one buzzer system
Bishop's x 2
Capistrano x 1
If there are any changes that need to be made, please let me know by Saturday. We still have room for more teams as well, so any other teams that wish to sign up should tell me by Saturday too.
Tammy Tran
La Jolla High School '10
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Arcadia will be bringing 3 teams.
Alex Wang
Arcadia High '10
UCLA '14 or so
Arcadia High '10
UCLA '14 or so
Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
OK, Arcadia is now at 3 teams. The rest of the field has so far stayed the same.
After noon on Saturday, LJHS reserves the right to not allow any additional teams to sign up. Email me or post on this discussion board before noon on Saturday to be absolutely sure that your teams will be in. Any registrations made after that point will be considered but not necessarily honored.
After noon on Saturday, LJHS reserves the right to not allow any additional teams to sign up. Email me or post on this discussion board before noon on Saturday to be absolutely sure that your teams will be in. Any registrations made after that point will be considered but not necessarily honored.
Tammy Tran
La Jolla High School '10
La Jolla High School '10
Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Hey everybody,
Thank you so much for registering for Rocket Surgery I. The field is now closed and is as follows:
Arcadia x 3 +two buzzer systems
Rancho Bernardo x 3 +one buzzer system
Orange Lutheran x 1
Brophy Prep x 3 +four buzzer systems
Edison x 2 + one buzzer system
North Hollywood x 1 + two buzzer systems
Torrey Pines x 2 + one buzzer system
Bishop's x 2
Capistrano x 1
Tustin x 2 + one buzzer system
University x 2 +one buzzer system
possibly: Los Amigos x 1
Overall, 22 (or 23) team field, with the top four qualifying for HSNCT. More information will be sent to the schools via email, and expect to be sent a tournament format by the middle of next week.
Thank you so much for registering for Rocket Surgery I. The field is now closed and is as follows:
Arcadia x 3 +two buzzer systems
Rancho Bernardo x 3 +one buzzer system
Orange Lutheran x 1
Brophy Prep x 3 +four buzzer systems
Edison x 2 + one buzzer system
North Hollywood x 1 + two buzzer systems
Torrey Pines x 2 + one buzzer system
Bishop's x 2
Capistrano x 1
Tustin x 2 + one buzzer system
University x 2 +one buzzer system
possibly: Los Amigos x 1
Overall, 22 (or 23) team field, with the top four qualifying for HSNCT. More information will be sent to the schools via email, and expect to be sent a tournament format by the middle of next week.
Tammy Tran
La Jolla High School '10
La Jolla High School '10
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Is there a moderator discount?
***EDIT to avoid repost*** RB's delegation will probably decrease to two teams. I should have a firm number by midweek.
***EDIT to avoid repost*** RB's delegation will probably decrease to two teams. I should have a firm number by midweek.
Lucas Brown
Rancho Bernardo 2011
Caltech 2015
Every day is finals day.
"If people only knew how hard I work to gain my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful at all." --Michelangelo Buonarroti
Rancho Bernardo 2011
Caltech 2015
Every day is finals day.
"If people only knew how hard I work to gain my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful at all." --Michelangelo Buonarroti
Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Please let us know by early Thursday afternoon because we want to send out final info Thursday night. Also, if RB drops down to two teams, we will not need a moderator from your school.LucasBrown wrote:Is there a moderator discount?
***EDIT to avoid repost*** RB's delegation will probably decrease to two teams. I should have a firm number by midweek.
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
We are now definitely down to two teams. Also, I just got a few emails to the effect of "Hey, it turns out I might not be able to get out of this other commitment Saturday. I should know by Wednesday whether I can go," so this might actually decrease to one team (although this isn't likely). A firm number should be available by Wednesday night.
Lucas Brown
Rancho Bernardo 2011
Caltech 2015
Every day is finals day.
"If people only knew how hard I work to gain my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful at all." --Michelangelo Buonarroti
Rancho Bernardo 2011
Caltech 2015
Every day is finals day.
"If people only knew how hard I work to gain my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful at all." --Michelangelo Buonarroti
Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Okay, RB is down to two with a final count pending.
Tammy Tran
La Jolla High School '10
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
RB's final count: 1.
Lucas Brown
Rancho Bernardo 2011
Caltech 2015
Every day is finals day.
"If people only knew how hard I work to gain my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful at all." --Michelangelo Buonarroti
Rancho Bernardo 2011
Caltech 2015
Every day is finals day.
"If people only knew how hard I work to gain my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful at all." --Michelangelo Buonarroti
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
This was a good tournament. I think it was very well run and I had a lot of fun. Thanks guys.
Stephen Liu
Torrey Pines '10
Harvard '14
Stanford '17
Torrey Pines '10
Harvard '14
Stanford '17
Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
We're glad you enjoyed it, Stephen. To everyone, thank you for coming to our tournament. Stats for players and teams will be up soon, but in the meantime, all comments and thoughts are welcome.
Tammy Tran
La Jolla High School '10
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Biggest complaint we have were the buzzers, but that wasn't your fault.
I agree with Stephen, great tournament.
I agree with Stephen, great tournament.
Alex Wang
Arcadia High '10
UCLA '14 or so
Arcadia High '10
UCLA '14 or so
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
And stats are now up. These are combined for morning and afternoon
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
At quick glance, our statline against University A makes no sense. (5/7/10)
EDIT: I think Howon had 0 negs that game, not 9.
EDIT: I think Howon had 0 negs that game, not 9.
Stephen Liu
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Harvard '14
Stanford '17
Torrey Pines '10
Harvard '14
Stanford '17
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Can you put the stats into the playoff brackets? Arcadia A did (slightly) better than 11th place.
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Also, if you repost stats, could you add round report? Thanks.
*edited for more specific*
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Also, if you repost stats, could you add round report? Thanks.
Alex Wang
Arcadia High '10
UCLA '14 or so
Arcadia High '10
UCLA '14 or so
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Re: Rocket Surgery I (San Diego) - 2/27/10
Round report is up now. I'm working to correct any mistakes and to correctly split the rounds into their brackets and divisions; those final split stats will be up in a day or two.
Edit: okay, stats with afternoon brackets are now up.
Edit: okay, stats with afternoon brackets are now up.