HSAPQ: Fall Tournaments Sets Available
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Is there a particular reason people here are posting and identifying unbelievably self-evident typos or similar errors from every HSAPQ set ever? Writers make dumb errors, and sometimes proofreading doesn't catch them. I see no reason not to contact HSAPQ with such a list if you really feel like spending your time compiling it, but why are you people posting every time you catch a simple mistake? In 90% of these cases the error and correction are extremely obvious, so what's the point? This isn't me speaking as a moderator or anything, but why don't you stop this nonsense? This thread started out with actual discussion about clue placement and the accessibility of various answers, which actually constitutes discussion. I guess people can start a thread solely about who can identify more silly mistakes if they really want, but surely something more productive can come from your read-throughs of these packets?
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I don't see a problem with me pointing out mistakes until HSAPQ tells me not to. I just want them to get everything right. But thanks for your input, i guess.
I've surely pointed out much more comprehensive errors/problems in the past, but you elected to ignore those, for the most part.
I've surely pointed out much more comprehensive errors/problems in the past, but you elected to ignore those, for the most part.
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Well, this wasn't just directed at you, but you're missing the point. I'm saying that identifying comprehensive errors and perceived problems is worthwhile discussion, that it's what we ought to be doing. What I personally find largely pointless is posting obvious things like "this question says Portland is the capital of Oregon" or "this word which was an obvious typo from the previous line of the question should be this other obvious word that's readily apparent." I mean, saying stuff like "I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the such and such education act" when even someone who knows nothing about it (like myself) can read the question and logically infer the mistake - is there really a reason to post that in this thread? Like I said, if you wanted to make a discussion thread for a particular set and do that, it's not really against the rules or anything, but why? It seems like emailing HSAPQ is preferable for stuff like that, while things which can actually be discussed (such as your correct identification of the Nestorianism tossup as way too hard) make better discussion board material.I don't see a problem with me pointing out mistakes until HSAPQ tells me not to. I just want them to get everything right. But thanks for your input, i guess.
I've surely pointed out much more comprehensive errors/problems in the past, but you elected to ignore those, for the most part.
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You're probably right. I'll keep the typos and little mistakes to myself, or at least compile them and ask them to be corrected by e-mail or something.
On another note, as i read through it comprehensively i'm noticing that the Four-Quarter Set is WAY harder than any of the ACF-style sets, but perhaps that's just my opinion.
On another note, as i read through it comprehensively i'm noticing that the Four-Quarter Set is WAY harder than any of the ACF-style sets, but perhaps that's just my opinion.
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Could you give some reason as to why you think that?Dr. Bunsen Honeydew wrote: On another note, as i read through it comprehensively i'm noticing that the Four-Quarter Set is WAY harder than any of the ACF-style sets, but perhaps that's just my opinion.
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Far less accessible tossup answers, really, that pretty much covers it.
The questions/tossups are still great, and lots of good clues, but you're just going to have a way smaller conversion rate on a lot of these because the answers are harder.
The questions/tossups are still great, and lots of good clues, but you're just going to have a way smaller conversion rate on a lot of these because the answers are harder.
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Back to more constructive criticism.
Tell me which part of this bonus is the "easy" part:
I contend that a better-looking bonus would have two of these authors (Kawabata and Oe for instance) as the first two answers, followed by an answer that simply is just "Japan." Fine, the elite players would laugh at the ridiculous easiness of the last answer, but if bonus questions really are supposed to have conversion rates where 50%-75% of teams should get 10 points on them... well, this bonus doesn't cut it because 50%-75% of teams i see in the course of the year would get 0 on this (and so would we have, a year ago).
EDIT: fixed the round number
Tell me which part of this bonus is the "easy" part:
I mean, okay, to even an above average player (as opposed to a great/superstar player) these are not hard (in fact another discussion could be "tell me which part of this bonus is the 'hard' part," but anyway)... but to even a kinda okay player, much less a not-really-good-at-all player, these are impossible.HSAPQ-produced ACF-style set #2, Round 3, Bonus 17 wrote:17. Name these Japanese authors, for 10 points each.
[10] This author wrote about Ryuji in The Sailor who fell from Grace with the Sea and of Mizoguchi, who
burns down the title structure in his The Temple of the Golden Pavilion.
ANSWER: Yukio Mishima [accept in either order]
[10] Yukio is a sickly character in this author’s Snow Country. He also wrote The Sound of the Mountain
and Thousand Cranes.
ANSWER: Yasunari Kawabata [accept in either order]
[10] This author wrote works inspired by his disabled son in Aghwee the Sky Monster and A Personal
Matter in addition to a novel about two brothers who return to Okubo in The Silent Cry.
ANSWER: Kenzaburo Oe [accept in either order]
I contend that a better-looking bonus would have two of these authors (Kawabata and Oe for instance) as the first two answers, followed by an answer that simply is just "Japan." Fine, the elite players would laugh at the ridiculous easiness of the last answer, but if bonus questions really are supposed to have conversion rates where 50%-75% of teams should get 10 points on them... well, this bonus doesn't cut it because 50%-75% of teams i see in the course of the year would get 0 on this (and so would we have, a year ago).
EDIT: fixed the round number
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I hold that Mishima would undoubtedly be the easy part. I will disagree in that most teams would 0 this. Also, the order of the parts does not necessarily indicate the difficulty of the part itself, the clues do.Dr. Bunsen Honeydew wrote:Back to more constructive criticism.
Tell me which part of this bonus is the "easy" part:I mean, okay, to even an above average player (as opposed to a great/superstar player) these are not hard (in fact another discussion could be "tell me which part of this bonus is the 'hard' part," but anyway)... but to even a kinda okay player, much less a not-really-good-at-all player, these are impossible.HSAPQ-produced ACF-style set #2, Round 3, Bonus 17 wrote:17. Name these Japanese authors, for 10 points each.
[10] This author wrote about Ryuji in The Sailor who fell from Grace with the Sea and of Mizoguchi, who
burns down the title structure in his The Temple of the Golden Pavilion.
ANSWER: Yukio Mishima [accept in either order]
[10] Yukio is a sickly character in this author’s Snow Country. He also wrote The Sound of the Mountain
and Thousand Cranes.
ANSWER: Yasunari Kawabata [accept in either order]
[10] This author wrote works inspired by his disabled son in Aghwee the Sky Monster and A Personal
Matter in addition to a novel about two brothers who return to Okubo in The Silent Cry.
ANSWER: Kenzaburo Oe [accept in either order]
I contend that a better-looking bonus would have two of these authors (Kawabata and Oe for instance) as the first two answers, followed by an answer that simply is just "Japan." Fine, the elite players would laugh at the ridiculous easiness of the last answer, but if bonus questions really are supposed to have conversion rates where 50%-75% of teams should get 10 points on them... well, this bonus doesn't cut it because 50%-75% of teams i see in the course of the year would get 0 on this (and so would we have, a year ago).
EDIT: fixed the round number
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I think your suggestion on the bonus to include a bonus part on Japan is fine, but Mishima is the easiest part there (not that, as you noted, Oe and Kawabata are impossible). I'd think that's a functionally acceptable easy part, even though it would not be as highly converted as Japan since world lit seems to be a less well-known category than, say, American lit.
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Okay, i don't see it (meaning, i see the others as the same difficulty, or at least, Kawabata and Mishima are the two easiest), but i'll take your word for it.dtaylor4 wrote:I hold that Mishima would undoubtedly be the easy part.
And i will disagree with you whole-heartedly. If i read this to any team in Delaware not named Charter or Caesar Rodney (and on any of our B-D teams as well because i know they don't know these), i can bet you anything you would see 0's across the board.dtaylor4 wrote:I will disagree in that most teams would 0 this.
I know that. I still think a "Japan" answer would be a good idea, as i've seen in before in "normal" difficulty packets.dtaylor4 wrote:Also, the order of the parts does not necessarily indicate the difficulty of the part itself, the clues do.
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Donald--I have to kibbitz [sic] here......I know a lot of ILLINOIS teams who would have no idea who Mishima was, much less the others.
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I've been wondering why the two NSC sets were, in the category round, missing the science category, as it is pretty big in quiz bowl. (Trash was left out too, but then, that shouldn't come up as often, of course.)
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Just to continue the Japanese authors discussion, i found another one in the same set to ponder:
EDIT: typo.
Really. This one is even harder than the last one i posted. I know that Shonagon is supposed to be the "easy" answer, but wow, this just screams "zero" to about 50-75% of the teams playing on these questions. If HSAPQ wants to expand is clientele and reach out to new teams/areas, i really think bonus questions like this need to be reconsidered.Round 8, bonus 1 wrote:1. Name some more Japanese authors, for 10 points each.
[10] This author wrote about his country’s aesthetics in “In Praise of Shadows,” and also wrote novels
like The Makioka Sisters and Some Prefer Nettles.
ANSWER: Junichiro Tanizaki [accept in either order]
[10] This modern author has written such novels as Pinball, 1973, Kafka on the Shore, and The Wind-Up
Bird Chronicle.
ANSWER: Haruki Murakami [accept in either order]
[10] This Heian Period author wrote a book that contains many lists, The Pillow Book.
ANSWER: Sei Shonagon
EDIT: typo.
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That was a pretty hard bonus. It could have been made easier by asking for "The Pillow Book" instead of its author, I guess. Also, there could have been some interesting clues for the first two parts, which basically just list works. This probably is a little off topic here, but I also think that in terms of cyclical "what's coming up in quiz bowl" terms, Japanese lit is way overrepresented within quiz bowl now, and thus this probably is one reason why somewhat difficult bonuses like this appear.
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Japanese lit has always been overrepresented within quizbowl. Proof: http://www.naqt.com/YouGottaKnow/japanese-authors.html is from February 2001!Cheynem wrote:That was a pretty hard bonus. It could have been made easier by asking for "The Pillow Book" instead of its author, I guess. Also, there could have been some interesting clues for the first two parts, which basically just list works. This probably is a little off topic here, but I also think that in terms of cyclical "what's coming up in quiz bowl" terms, Japanese lit is way overrepresented within quiz bowl now, and thus this probably is one reason why somewhat difficult bonuses like this appear.
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That bonus is a lot tougher.
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And it's the first one of a packet! I mean, if you're going to put in ridiculously hard bonus questions, AT LEAST put them near the end so the teams/games that were answering 18-20 tossups will get to them, not the freaking first one to just demoralize a team that got the first tossup on Hercules (with notable giveaway "who completed twelve labors and was really strong") right. That is just killer.
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Yeah, it is; far worse than ever. I can vaguely remember a time when it wasn't so, so I guess all that started around 2000.Cheynem wrote:...Japanese lit is way overrepresented within quiz bowl now...
Also, I don't think that burying a super-hard bonus is any better. Imagine if you needed that bonus to come back at the end of a hard game. Actually, that gives me a good chance to state my disagreement with the argument that certain kinds of bad questions are more acceptable in certain areas of a packet, which I've been seeing more and more recently. If a question's bad, it doesn't matter where it is; it will affect gameplay in the same way to a high degree of approximation. So, just don't write bad questions; there's nowhere in a packet they can be shuffled that's any better or more acceptable.
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Back to my annoying critiques. At least my last one was agreed upon, largely.
This one is just about bonus difficulty variety, especially when it comes to literature.
In the same packet, both of these are found...
However, the first one i posted is insanely hard, a person who i don't think has ever come up in "regular high school difficulty" before except maybe as a "hard part" of a bonus, yet he's the "easy part" and we're expected to come up with two of his works?! But yet the Faulkner bonus has arguably his three most famous works that many teams will 20 or 30 with no problem.
Thoughts? Or am i making something of nothing here?
This one is just about bonus difficulty variety, especially when it comes to literature.
In the same packet, both of these are found...
Note: I DON'T have a problem with the second bonus here, at least not much of one.HSAPQ-produced ACF-style set #3, Round 12 wrote:6. Godfrey Ablewhite is murdered over possession of the titular gem. For 10 points each:
[10] Name this novel in which the title diamond is stolen from a Hindu shrine and then stolen from Lady
Verinder’s cabinet, a crime investigated by Sergeant Cuff.
ANSWER: The Moonstone
[10] This British author of Armadale and No Name penned The Moonstone.
ANSWER: William Wilkie Collins
[10] Anne Catherick is the mysterious title female of this Collins novel in which Walter Hartright lusts
after Laura Fairlie.
ANSWER: The Woman in White
...
19. For 10 points each, name these William Faulkner novels.
[10] In this biblically titled work, Thomas Sutpen is killed by Wash Jones after building a Mississippi
plantation.
ANSWER: Absalom, Absalom!
[10] In this novel, Quentin Compson commits suicide after his family sells a pasture to send him to
Harvard.
ANSWER: The Sound and the Fury
[10] This work follows the Bundren family’s attempt to bury Addie Bundren’s body in Jefferson, as told
from several points of view.
ANSWER: As I Lay Dying
However, the first one i posted is insanely hard, a person who i don't think has ever come up in "regular high school difficulty" before except maybe as a "hard part" of a bonus, yet he's the "easy part" and we're expected to come up with two of his works?! But yet the Faulkner bonus has arguably his three most famous works that many teams will 20 or 30 with no problem.
Thoughts? Or am i making something of nothing here?
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Oh, also, HSAPQ plagiarizes itself:
NSC-style set #1, Round 15 wrote:This incident escalated when Peter Kakhovsky shot Count Miloradovich, who had been sent to attempt
to peacefully disperse the demonstrators. For 10 points each:
[10] Name this uprising, largely of the Russian military, which took place after the death of Alexander I,
and whose members supported making Constantine tsar.
ANSWER: Decembrists uprising or revolt
[10] Despite being elected dictator by the Decembrists, this man failed to show up to the Senate Square
demonstration. He’s loosely related to the Prague School author of Principles of Phonology.
ANSWER: Sergei Petrovich Troubetzkoy
Hm?ACF-style set #3, Round 12 wrote:22. This incident escalated when Peter Kakhovsky shot Count Miloradovich, who had been sent to
attempt to peacefully disperse the demonstrators. For 10 points each:
[10] Name this uprising, largely of the Russian military, which took place after the death of Alexander I
and whose members supported making Constantine tsar.
ANSWER: Decembrists uprising or revolt
[10] The Decembrists were opposed to the rule of this younger brother of Constantine. During his reign
he won some victories over the Ottomans, securing land on the Black Sea.
ANSWER: Nicholas I
[10] Despite being elected dictator by the Decembrists, this man failed to show up to the Senate Square
demonstration. He’s loosely related to the Prague School author of Principles of Phonology.
ANSWER: Sergei Petrovich Troubetzkoy
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Quite sure I've heard tossups on Wilkie Collins as well as on The Moonstone in HS before, though you're right that bonus is much harder than the Faulkner one.
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If this is the only example you've found of HSAPQ lifting questions from itself, don't you think this is more of a "didn't catch a repeat" mistake rather than a malicious act of plagiarism? Catching 1 lifted bonus out of 2100+ bonuses seems like a poor reason for accusing an editor/writer/whoever of plagiarism.Dr. Bunsen Honeydew wrote:Oh, also, HSAPQ plagiarizes itself
Edit: I'm working under the assumption that HSAPQ writers submit questions and then editors compile them into packets
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If that assumption isn't the case though, then we would be having some serious issues.Huang wrote: Edit: I'm working under the assumption that HSAPQ writers submit questions and then editors compile them into packets
However, I do think that they do compile them as often clues are so good that they just should be used for later in future, as other quizbowl organizations do.
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NAQT IS #21 had such a tossup (which I'm quite prepared to believe was a mistake!)AdamL wrote:Quite sure I've heard tossups on Wilkie Collins as well as on The Moonstone in HS before
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I agree with this. Collins and Moonstone do come up.AdamL wrote:Quite sure I've heard tossups on Wilkie Collins as well as on The Moonstone in HS before, though you're right that bonus is much harder than the Faulkner one.
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I do not believe this is the case. I don't think Collins is appropriate difficulty for regular high school.
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Wilkie Collins you mean.ihavenoidea wrote:I do not believe this is the case. I don't think Wilkins is appropriate difficulty for regular high school.
This bonus I believe many teams would score 0 or 10 points on, because the summary of Moonstone does not come up that often in HS QuizBowl, and other Wilkie Collins' novels really do not come often. So teams most likely would get 10 points.
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But that's exactly by point, bonus questions SHOULD NOT have their writers saying "well, MAYBE half the teams will get 10, after that, ha, forget it." In fact i'm sure that way way less than half the teams in the country know about Collins.master15625 wrote:Wilkie Collins you mean.ihavenoidea wrote:I do not believe this is the case. I don't think Wilkins is appropriate difficulty for regular high school.
This bonus I believe many teams would score 0 or 10 points on, because the summary of Moonstone does not come up that often in HS QuizBowl, and other Wilkie Collins' novels really do not come often. So teams most likely would get 10 points.
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Interesting discussion. Many of us read The Moonstone in the 70s by virtue of the Masterpiece Theatre dramatization. I think the larger issue, though, is what constitutes "normal" or "average" high school? Curricula vary widely throughout the country.
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I taught The Moonstone for years in my standard level English 12 class as part of a unit on the development of the mystery novel. I, at least, consider Collins to be an important figure in the development of the high/low literary split that becomes the Sense vs. Sensibility debate of the 18th century and would later lead to a differentiation between "literary" works and "popular" novels. He is as legit for a question at the high school level as would be the pioneering writer of any particular genre of literature.
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Another Bonus on PACE Set 2 Packet 2 Related Tossup/Bonus 6
Does anyone else think this is a little difficult?
Do you think that this would be a little hard for the target audience? I mean, Bowen's Reaction Series is a famous diagram, but I mean, it is still not a common thing that many people hear about. And I don't think many of the targeted teams would know the opposite of orthoclase is plagioclase.Bonus: This diagram explains why certain minerals form near other minerals. For 10 points each:
[10] Name this tuning fork-shaped diagram with quartz at its bottom. It has a continuous and a
discontinuous branch.
ANSWER: Bowen’s Reaction Series [accept Bowen’s Diagram, etc.]
[10] The continuous branch of the Bowen’s series ranges from sodium- to calcium rich varieties of this
type of feldspar, often contrasted with orthoclase.
ANSWER: plagioclase feldspar
Does anyone else think this is a little difficult?
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The problem with the WoQ PACE set was that each person involved in writing wrote an entire packet, which resulted in people with little to no science knowledge (me!) writing every category. When I wrote the question, I was enrolled in a Geology 101 class, and had recently heard a tossup on Bowens at FEUREBACH, so my difficulty judgement was probably pretty scewed.master15625 wrote:Another Bonus on PACE Set 2 Packet 2 Related Tossup/Bonus 6
Do you think that this would be a little hard for the target audience? I mean, Bowen's Reaction Series is a famous diagram, but I mean, it is still not a common thing that many people hear about. And I don't think many of the targeted teams would know the opposite of orthoclase is plagioclase.Bonus: This diagram explains why certain minerals form near other minerals. For 10 points each:
[10] Name this tuning fork-shaped diagram with quartz at its bottom. It has a continuous and a
discontinuous branch.
ANSWER: Bowen’s Reaction Series [accept Bowen’s Diagram, etc.]
[10] The continuous branch of the Bowen’s series ranges from sodium- to calcium rich varieties of this
type of feldspar, often contrasted with orthoclase.
ANSWER: plagioclase feldspar
Does anyone else think this is a little difficult?
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Oh, this was written for WoQ. Then I guess the difficulty would be suitable as top teams participated in this tournament. But yeah, in general, it would be too hard.ClemsonQB wrote: The problem with the WoQ PACE set was that each person involved in writing wrote an entire packet, which resulted in people with little to no science knowledge (me!) writing every category. When I wrote the question, I was enrolled in a Geology 101 class, and had recently heard a tossup on Bowens at FEUREBACH, so my difficulty judgement was probably pretty scewed.
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Assuming that is from the Weekend of Quizbowl set, I wrote for that set and I can confirm it was not produced by HSAPQ.
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It was from the HSAPQ Pace #2 Packet #2 Related-Tossup Bonus #6 the question that I referred to. I am not sure what they mean by WoQHarper v. Canada (Attorney General) wrote:Assuming that is from the Weekend of Quizbowl set, I wrote for that set and I can confirm it was not produced by HSAPQ.
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It wasn't directly plagarized from WoQ (if it was plagarizing). This is what WoQ had:
[quote=WoQ Packet 8, Last bonus]
Types of this include Aventurine, Tiger’s Eye and Amethyst, and it exhibits piezoelectricity, for 10 points each:
[10] Name this mineral with a Mohs hardness of 7.
ANSWER: Quartz
[10] Quartz is at the bottom of this chain which illustrates the progression of minerals produced by cooling magma, whose left branch includes olivine and biotite.
ANSWER: Bowen’s reaction series
[10] The right branch of Bowen’s reaction series consists of Calcium and Sodium-rich samples of this mineral family.
ANSWER: Plagioclase feldspar [prompt on “Feldspar”]
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[quote=WoQ Packet 8, Last bonus]
Types of this include Aventurine, Tiger’s Eye and Amethyst, and it exhibits piezoelectricity, for 10 points each:
[10] Name this mineral with a Mohs hardness of 7.
ANSWER: Quartz
[10] Quartz is at the bottom of this chain which illustrates the progression of minerals produced by cooling magma, whose left branch includes olivine and biotite.
ANSWER: Bowen’s reaction series
[10] The right branch of Bowen’s reaction series consists of Calcium and Sodium-rich samples of this mineral family.
ANSWER: Plagioclase feldspar [prompt on “Feldspar”]
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Unless I am doing a poor reading job upthread, you are conflating Andrew's assertion that there was plagiarism between two Russian history bonuses, one two-part, and Niel's assertion that a two-part bonus on Bowen's/plagioclase is too hard. No one's asserting that the latter was plagiarized from somewhere, and I tend to believe that the other bonus you found that happens to have two of the same parts is completely unrelated, judging from how they contain language just about as different as can be for two prompts that describe the same things.
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Oh okay, this is the question I wrote, not the other. I would have looked through my submitted packet, but I'm in Vienna (and my laptop with the necessary files is in SC).Bird Sonata wrote:It wasn't directly plagarized from WoQ (if it was plagarizing). This is what WoQ had:
WoQ Packet 8, Last bonus wrote: Types of this include Aventurine, Tiger’s Eye and Amethyst, and it exhibits piezoelectricity, for 10 points each:
[10] Name this mineral with a Mohs hardness of 7.
ANSWER: Quartz
[10] Quartz is at the bottom of this chain which illustrates the progression of minerals produced by cooling magma, whose left branch includes olivine and biotite.
ANSWER: Bowen’s reaction series
[10] The right branch of Bowen’s reaction series consists of Calcium and Sodium-rich samples of this mineral family.
ANSWER: Plagioclase feldspar [prompt on “Feldspar”]
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I know, I was just clearing up any confusion over what appeared where.Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:Unless I am doing a poor reading job upthread, you are conflating Andrew's assertion that there was plagiarism between two Russian history bonuses, one two-part, and Niel's assertion that a two-part bonus on Bowen's/plagioclase is too hard. No one's asserting that the latter was plagiarized from somewhere, and I tend to believe that the other bonus you found that happens to have two of the same parts is completely unrelated, judging from how they contain language just about as different as can be for two prompts that describe the same things.
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I don't know much of quizbowl canon yet but just wondering, which of these is supposed to be the hard part of the bonus?HSAPQACF1_11 wrote:17. At the end of this opera, the title character heals Amfortas with a spear, then attracts a white dove
by exhibiting the Holy Grail. For 10 points each:
[10] Name this 1882 opera about an Arthurian knight.
ANSWER: Parsifal
[10] This eccentric German composer of The Flying Dutchman, Tristan and Isolde, and Tannhäuser wrote
Parsifal.
ANSWER: Richard Wagner
[10] The Valkyrie and The Rheingold are two of the four operas in the cycle by Wagner named for this
object, manufactured by dwarves known as Nibelung.
ANSWER: ring
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Disclaimer: I know little to nothing about classical music.klebian wrote:I don't know much of quizbowl canon yet but just wondering, which of these is supposed to be the hard part of the bonus?HSAPQACF1_11 wrote:17. At the end of this opera, the title character heals Amfortas with a spear, then attracts a white dove
by exhibiting the Holy Grail. For 10 points each:
[10] Name this 1882 opera about an Arthurian knight.
ANSWER: Parsifal
[10] This eccentric German composer of The Flying Dutchman, Tristan and Isolde, and Tannhäuser wrote
Parsifal.
ANSWER: Richard Wagner
[10] The Valkyrie and The Rheingold are two of the four operas in the cycle by Wagner named for this
object, manufactured by dwarves known as Nibelung.
ANSWER: ring
I would posit that "Parsifal" is the hard part.
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Yeah, it's not too tough as far as music bonus questions go, but i Parsifal is clearly the toughest answer there.
I don't see a problem with that one, really. I would rather have 20 of those types per packet than 20 where the "hard" part is impossible.
I don't see a problem with that one, really. I would rather have 20 of those types per packet than 20 where the "hard" part is impossible.
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Same question:
Hard part would be Toltecs? I was actually surprised to do a packet search of my desktop and find this bonus was the only one with Toltecs as the answer. How much are they (and, like, Olmec) in the canon?Set 2, Round 8 wrote:5. Name these civilizations from their mythologies, for 10 points each.
[10] Huitzilopochtli was their war god, Tlaloc their storm god, and Tlazolteotl was their goddess of filth.
They also borrowed stories about a plumed serpent from an earlier civilization.
ANSWER: Aztecs
[10] The Aztecs borrowed the Quetzalcoatl myths from this civilization, whose mythology holds that he
abandoned their city of Tollan and sailed east on a raft of serpents, to one day return.
ANSWER: Toltecs
[10] While much of their mythology was shared with their eastern neighbors, these people worshipped
such unique figures as Quirinus and Janus, and used indigenous names like Minerva.
ANSWER: Romans
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Toltecs is definitely the hardest part there.
Olmecs are definitely in the canon, more so than Toltecs, but neither of them are canon-pushers by any means.
Olmecs are definitely in the canon, more so than Toltecs, but neither of them are canon-pushers by any means.
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Olmecs get asked about more because of the LOL GIANT STONE HEADS giveaway. I'm not convinced that one is more "in the canon" than the other, but both are certainly reasonable as hard parts of high school bonuses.Bananaquit wrote:Olmecs are definitely in the canon, more so than Toltecs, but neither of them are canon-pushers by any means.
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Out of curiosity, does HSAPQ have a set distribution that they follow? I'm not a huge fan of the pop culture that they have...
A Fresh Prince reference on the second line seems way too early... I haven't watched that show in years and got it on that name.HSAPQ2_9 wrote:14. He rapped “that us kids / Are going to make some mistakes” in “Parents Just Don’t Understand,”
and won the first rap Grammy with DJ Jazzy Jeff. A character he played lives with his uncle Philip Banks
after being sent from “west Philadelphia” where he was “born and raised” for getting “in one little
fight.” This man played the scourge of his cousin Carleton in that series, and later portrayed James
Edwards, who fights aliens in Men In Black. For 10 points, name this actor who played Chris Garder in
The Pursuit of Happyness as well as the namesake character of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
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You assume that a lot of people who are of high school age watched that show. I hold that this is not likely true.klebian wrote:Out of curiosity, does HSAPQ have a set distribution that they follow? I'm not a huge fan of the pop culture that they have...
A Fresh Prince reference on the second line seems way too early... I haven't watched that show in years and got it on that name.HSAPQ2_9 wrote:14. He rapped “that us kids / Are going to make some mistakes” in “Parents Just Don’t Understand,”
and won the first rap Grammy with DJ Jazzy Jeff. A character he played lives with his uncle Philip Banks
after being sent from “west Philadelphia” where he was “born and raised” for getting “in one little
fight.” This man played the scourge of his cousin Carleton in that series, and later portrayed James
Edwards, who fights aliens in Men In Black. For 10 points, name this actor who played Chris Garder in
The Pursuit of Happyness as well as the namesake character of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
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Hmm, I would probably disagree with you but ok, that makes sense then.
Another question (sorry for so many questions about these sets, I am only now going through them)
HSAPQ2_10 seems to have two bonuses on the same subject, which to me is a bit strange.
Another question (sorry for so many questions about these sets, I am only now going through them)
HSAPQ2_10 seems to have two bonuses on the same subject, which to me is a bit strange.
1. Her early rule was spent on a civil war with the rival Joan, who was supported by Alfonso the Fifth of
Portugal. For 10 points each:
[10] Name this queen who married Ferdinand the Second of Aragon to unite Spain and end the
Reconquista against the Moors. Later, she sponsored Christopher Columbus.
ANSWER: Queen Isabella of Castille [or Isabella the Catholic; or Isabel la Catolica]
20. This ruler revived the hermandad and was the mother of Queen Joanna the Mad. For 10 points
each:
[10] Name this Spanish queen and wife of Ferdinand.
ANSWER: Isabella I
[10] Prior to marrying Ferdinand, Isabella was the queen of what Spanish kingdom that had previously
been ruled Alfonso X and Peter the Cruel?
ANSWER: Castile
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I disagree. Very few people I have met don't know the theme song of that show word-for-word. Buzzer race at either Uncle Phil or West Philadelphia.dtaylor4 wrote:You assume that a lot of people who are of high school age watched that show. I hold that this is not likely true.klebian wrote:Out of curiosity, does HSAPQ have a set distribution that they follow? I'm not a huge fan of the pop culture that they have...
A Fresh Prince reference on the second line seems way too early... I haven't watched that show in years and got it on that name.HSAPQ2_9 wrote:14. He rapped “that us kids / Are going to make some mistakes” in “Parents Just Don’t Understand,”
and won the first rap Grammy with DJ Jazzy Jeff. A character he played lives with his uncle Philip Banks
after being sent from “west Philadelphia” where he was “born and raised” for getting “in one little
fight.” This man played the scourge of his cousin Carleton in that series, and later portrayed James
Edwards, who fights aliens in Men In Black. For 10 points, name this actor who played Chris Garder in
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I guess we have about two mutual friends. This is inevitably a problem with sample size; I can counter by saying that I saw my first episode of Fresh Prince last year, but knew that Will Smith was in it since elementary school. I bet I have a dozen friends who are the same way. So there!rmgeokid wrote: I disagree. Very few people I have met don't know the theme song of that show word-for-word. Buzzer race at either Uncle Phil or West Philadelphia.
I also don't see this as a "buzzer race" since there are plenty of buzzable clues beforehand.
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