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Bad Negs Again

Post by AKKOLADE » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:24 am

Starting a new thread for the 08-09 season, plus so these rules can be as visible as possible:

1. When posting a "bad neg", make sure it is from a set that has been cleared for discussion. If it's an NAQT set, it's not clear until after that year's HSNCT. If it's a house written event, make sure all of its mirrors have been conducted (as applicable).

2. When posting a "bad neg", you must identify which set or event it is from.

3. If you fail to follow rule one and post a question not yet cleared for discussion, you will be subject to a week-long tempban.

4. If you fail to follow rule one by posting a question not yet cleared for discussion and rule two by not identifying which set or event the question is from, you will be subject to Mike Sorice's unholy rage. He's a loose cannon. We can't control him.
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by cornfused » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:19 pm

Proposed criteria for a true bad neg (must meet one or more:)
1) wrong type of answer (person, place, thing)
i.e. Denmark for pancreas (great neg, by the way)
2) one of a group, you name something not in the group
i.e. Grouchy the dwarf; name this South American country-BUZZ-Spain
3) confusing two similar-sounding but very different answers
i.e. Scrooge being visited by the ghost of Bob Marley; President George Washington Carver
4) just plain wrong (especially applicable when pop culture is involved)
i.e. Arthur Dent for Buzz Lightyear; Golda Meier for the Baroness
5) given answer in question
i.e. name this work by the author of White Fang, Jack London-BUZZ-White Fang
6) correct answer is gettable by average 6-year-old
i.e. Saturn, the third planet from the sun; Marlowe, the author of Hamlet
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by AKKOLADE » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:22 pm

Arguing about what makes a bad neg is a waste of time that I could spend wasting my time on something more valuable, like Resident Evil 4, playing cornhole or rapidly pushing buttons on trunks of cars..
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Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:36 pm

What about bad non-negs? Answers given after the question is complete? What about bad NAC/QU answers?
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by AKKOLADE » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:44 pm

Negs is being used in its form as slang for an incorrect answer.

Stupid answer selection is a whole different thread.
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Post by First Chairman » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:11 pm

What about bad NAC/QU questions?
fixed... I think.
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:33 pm

cornfused wrote:stuff
Yeah I'm with Fred here. I'm totally fine with the old standard of "90% not funny".
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Post by The Time Keeper » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:43 pm

leftsaidfred wrote:playing cornhole
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by AKKOLADE » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:48 pm

Dolemite wrote:
leftsaidfred wrote:playing cornhole
Fred?
bean bags are awesome sucker
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by The Time Keeper » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:15 pm

leftsaidfred wrote:
Dolemite wrote:
leftsaidfred wrote:playing cornhole
Fred?
bean bags are awesome sucker
Oh.
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Post by First Chairman » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:11 pm

Fred: You needed to provide a little context.

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Post by harpersferry » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:45 pm

"one sentence of a CO tossup"
Nick Matchen: *hits Jonah in the head with buzzer*
Buzzer: *buzz*
Moderator: "that's a buzz dude"
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Post by AKKOLADE » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:50 pm

pasedpawn wrote:"one sentence of a CO tossup"
Nick Matchen: *hits Jonah in the head with buzzer*
Buzzer: *buzz*
Moderator: "that's a buzz dude"
Nick Matchen: "uh..I don't know"
Moderated by Mike Sorice I assume?
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Post by harpersferry » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:05 pm

leftsaidfred wrote:
pasedpawn wrote:"one sentence of a CO tossup"
Nick Matchen: *hits Jonah in the head with buzzer*
Buzzer: *buzz*
Moderator: "that's a buzz dude"
Nick Matchen: "uh..I don't know"
Moderated by Mike Sorice I assume?
no it was the kid from florida with the extremely curly hair in our game versus the dorman kids. hilarity ensued. Nick also took the cake for the funniest bonus answer of the game for Bow and Lyre: "I am a Mexican and I won the Nobel Prize" by Octavio Paz.
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:36 am

chris ray plays strip russian roulette itt
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by DumbJaques » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:36 pm

I hope you are all looking forward to TIT XXIII: Strip Russian Roulette - The Naked or the Dead

Ted Gioia and I managed to create a virtual side competition of really bad negs on Saturday. I believe I buzzed in with the Battle of Manzikert after the question suggested it was something that happened in a BC year, while Ted buzzed in thinking that someone in the famished road had wrestled a bear. In Nigeria.
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by cornfused » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:44 pm

DumbJaques wrote: someone in the famished road had wrestled a bear. In Nigeria.
It took me a while to understand why this couldn't be right. Apparently the Nigerian bear population is bigger in my mind than it is in real life.
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by Eärendil » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:39 pm

I'm just waiting for Schindler's Iceberg, the movie adaptation of Michael Chabon's The Yiddish Policemen's Union.
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Post by Magister Ludi » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:52 pm

While I never actually negged with The Famished Road I had my share of stupid buzzes. The worst was at the lit tournament where I said "Le Monocle de Mon Oncle" for Tintern Abbey.
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by evilmonkey » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:47 pm

Throughout the CO History/Main Event, I didn't get enough buzzes to have bad negs.

However, in the Trash tournament, I went wild with negs, Including this one.

Given: Brett Favre
Correct: BB King
This came after it should have been clear that they were looking for a musician...
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Post by naturalistic phallacy » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:40 am

DumbJaques wrote:I hope you are all looking forward to TIT XXIII: Strip Russian Roulette - The Naked or the Dead
I approve of this highly.
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Post by fleurdelivre » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:02 pm

I think the Russian-Roulette-for-Botticelli-after-stripping-has-been-mentioned takes the cake. It took me a good thirty seconds to be able to breathe again, let alone resume the question.
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Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:23 pm

There was a tossup at history doubles, I don't remember what it was on, but I buzzed in really early and thought it was blowjobs when it definitely wasn't.
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Post by Auroni » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:26 pm

Deesy Does It wrote:There was a tossup at history doubles, I don't remember what it was on, but I buzzed in really early and thought it was blowjobs when it definitely wasn't.
heh, what clued you in?
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Post by OctagonJoe » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:37 pm

Deesy Does It wrote:There was a tossup at history doubles, I don't remember what it was on, but I buzzed in really early and thought it was blowjobs when it definitely wasn't.
That was the tossup on inoculations. Considering the fact that you buzzed in after 11 words, it made the remaining clues rather hilarious. In fact the question went something like this:
According to Chinese tradition this practice, sometimes called "planting the flowers," became popular
after a Tibetan nun suggested it to Wang Tan. In 1706 an African slave named Onesimus said it was a
common practice among the Guramantese and told his master, Cotton Mather, about it. Emanuelle Timoni
told the Royal Society about this practice in a 1716 letter from the Ottoman Empire, where it is first
recorded as being performed on Circassian slave girls, perhaps contributing to their reputation for beauty.
The Scotsman William Douglass opposed this practice in colonial Boston, and Lady Montagu promoted it
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Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:40 pm

So that's what they call "planting the flowers" in Missouri?
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Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:44 pm

I confused "planting the flower" with "tasting the flute," a sexual practice described in The Plum in the Golden Vase.
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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:31 pm

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2007 ACF Regionals: something about bison being prone to it...
Ali (Freeman '08): Homosexuality?
Answer: bottlenecking

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Post by ... and the chaos of Mexican modernity » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:03 pm

My team was practicing on IS-58

Me reading: FTP name this chemical formula commonly known as H2SO4.
Teamate: (Buzz)...Dihygrogen Tetrasulfoxide.
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Post by cornfused » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:34 pm

Charlie - that's amazing. Sarah - also cool.

Zach - I refer you to my previous post.
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Post by AKKOLADE » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:09 am

cornfused wrote:Zach - I refer you to my previous post.
I guess that whole "first and last warning for backseat moderation" thing from three weeks ago didn't quite take, eh?

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Post by Auroni » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:12 am

dude, it's been made crystal clear that we don't care about rules that negs should follow
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Post by Auroni » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:40 am

Answer: people who passed the Imperial Examinations
Given: people from Iceland
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Post by stevengfeldman » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:03 pm

So I guess I'll jump in here ... at ASS II ... I managed to have two horrible negs ... on one they were talking about an online system for trading it and how you can buy used ones ... and then they said one ply ... and I twitchbuzzed with "toilet paper"for "chucks" ... also at ASS II ... in the strange deaths packet they mentioned something that sounded like the restaurant scene from When Harry Met Sally ... and I buzzed ... realized it was not going to be "death by orgasm" ... so I said "naked girl avalanche" ... to be funny ... I don't even know what the real answer was ...
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:59 pm

stevengfeldman wrote:So I guess I'll jump in here ... at ASS II ... I managed to have two horrible negs ... on one they were talking about an online system for trading it and how you can buy used ones ... and then they said one ply ... and I twitchbuzzed with "toilet paper"for "chucks" ... also at ASS II ... in the strange deaths packet they mentioned something that sounded like the restaurant scene from When Harry Met Sally ... and I buzzed ... realized it was not going to be "death by orgasm" ... so I said "naked girl avalanche" ... to be funny ... I don't even know what the real answer was ...
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Post by Mechanical Beasts » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:35 pm

fleurdelivre wrote:I think the Russian-Roulette-for-Botticelli-after-stripping-has-been-mentioned takes the cake. It took me a good thirty seconds to be able to breathe again, let alone resume the question.
Wait, there's strip Botticelli?

Somehow, the social events I've been to have (so far?) fallen into nonintersecting categories of "times when I could imagine people removing articles of clothing" and "times when I could imagine people playing Botticelli."

OH, right, Crying of Lot 49 had that. Thomas Pynchon, what you do to me.
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Post by fleurdelivre » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:12 pm

everyday847 wrote: Wait, there's strip Botticelli?

Somehow, the social events I've been to have (so far?) fallen into nonintersecting categories of "times when I could imagine people removing articles of clothing" and "times when I could imagine people playing Botticelli."

OH, right, Crying of Lot 49 had that. Thomas Pynchon, what you do to me.
Yes, Pynchon was the clue there. Afterward, a group in the hall contemplated both strip-Russian-roulette and strip-Botticelli, and I think all involved decided that the former would actually be preferable in/around quiz bowl precisely because one would likely die before having to see other qb'ers naked.
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Post by Ethnic history of the Vilnius region » Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:16 am

OctagonJoe wrote:
Deesy Does It wrote:There was a tossup at history doubles, I don't remember what it was on, but I buzzed in really early and thought it was blowjobs when it definitely wasn't.
That was the tossup on inoculations. Considering the fact that you buzzed in after 11 words, it made the remaining clues rather hilarious. In fact the question went something like this:
According to Chinese tradition this practice, sometimes called "planting the flowers," became popular
after a Tibetan nun suggested it to Wang Tan. In 1706 an African slave named Onesimus said it was a
common practice among the Guramantese and told his master, Cotton Mather, about it. Emanuelle Timoni
told the Royal Society about this practice in a 1716 letter from the Ottoman Empire, where it is first
recorded as being performed on Circassian slave girls, perhaps contributing to their reputation for beauty.
The Scotsman William Douglass opposed this practice in colonial Boston, and Lady Montagu promoted it
among the European nobility. In 1777, George Washington ordered all of his troops to undergo this
procedure in the wake of an epidemic of the disease it prevents. For ten points, name this procedure that
gives a patient a mild form of live smallpox usually via an incision, not to be confused with vaccination.
I had a pretty decent one for this. I buzzed in around George Washington and said "enemas". What can I say, I thought they contributed to the beauty of Circassian slave girls.
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Post by cvdwightw » Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:41 pm

Partial necro to keep this Bad Negs thread from dying over the summer.

From the original Zot Bowl set:

(Four lines about music)...For 10 points identify this genre of music and dance which lends its name to a terribly repetitive work by Maurice Ravel.
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Post by cornfused » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:26 am

Who cares if it's a necro (it's not, anyway,) that's a quality neg. Have you asked Jason where the heck that came from?
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Post by cvdwightw » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:57 am

cornfused wrote:Who cares if it's a necro (it's not, anyway,) that's a quality neg. Have you asked Jason where the heck that came from?
I mean, the last post was a month ago, and I didn't want such a quality thread to go to the Archives before it really got started.

Anyway, the story I kinda heard firsthand and kinda heard secondhand was that he reflex buzzed off Ravel, only he thought he heard Stendahl.
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Post by at your pleasure » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:25 pm

not really a bad neg, but still a interesting wrong answer.(from last year's MD spring. This was before I joined)
Moderator:blah, blah, blah, 68 ce,Vespatian
me:Great Revolt
Mod: prompt.
Me: Great Revolt of 66 ce?
Mod. Uh, more?
Me: I don't know
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Post by Frater Taciturnus » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:36 pm

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* A bunch of German-sounding names are listed as having helped construct it.
me: Maginot line oh crap

(actual answer: Mannerheim Line)
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by Pilgrim » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:58 pm

May Batman Prevail? wrote:Me at VCU Open

* A bunch of German-sounding names are listed as having helped construct it.
me: Maginot line oh crap

(actual answer: Mannerheim Line)
George Berry stop stealing my negs.
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:02 pm

Oh, good point.

VCU Open:

Tossup gives heavy implications that this has to do with war service. Tossup gives heavy implications that guys are in it and that it has nothing to do with descent, but somehow i miss those implications. Because I buzz with the DAR. Sorry, Order of Cincinnatus. You don't get any love.
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Post by at your pleasure » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:48 pm

What is the Order of Cincinnatus? the google results I get are for the Society of the Cincinnati, which involves descent and and has nothing to do with actual servic.
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Post by Matt Weiner » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:27 pm

William Heath, a critic of this organization, joined it solely to show that he was eligible and then publicly quit, and Michaelis, a British agent, infiltrated it and claimed to hear its members plotting to overthrow the government. Opposition to it picked up when it was accused of being a conspiracy to subvert democracy in the pamphlet Considerations by South Carolina Congressman Aedanus Burke, who won the support of Elbridge Gerry and John Adams. Pierre L'Enfant designed a medal and diploma for this group before organizing a French branch of this group, which had turned into an intermittently active charitable organization by 1835 due to its overly strict membership rules. For 10 points, name this group open only to the eldest male descendants of Revolutionary War veterans, first led by George Washington and named for a Roman dictator who laid down his power, in turn lending its name to a city of southern Ohio.
ANSWER: Society of the Cincinnati
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Re: Bad Negs Again

Post by cornfused » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:19 pm

Matt Weiner wrote:William Heath, a critic of this organization, joined it
So actually, nine words in, that's an amazing neg, Andy.
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Post by Mechanical Beasts » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:20 pm

cornfused wrote:
Matt Weiner wrote:William Heath, a critic of this organization, joined it
So actually, nine words in, that's an amazing neg, Andy.
Not only nine words in, I don't even manage to remember the correct answer! Hooray. It's a shame, too, because it was a great tossup.
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Post by Nine-Tenths Ideas » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:50 pm

From a very old It's Academic game
Here we see a painting of the army of what Z-initialed Mexican revolutionary?
Given: Zorro
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